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Topic: Does no mean no?
navygirl's photo
Thu 12/20/12 09:14 AM


When I say No, I mean No. If a man thinks otherwise; he will be in for a painful surprise. bigsmile


but you also don't go around teasing men and not expecting them to react!

Hell, I grew up in the days of the BOTH FEET ON THE FLOOR, 18 INCHES OF SPACE BETWEEN rules. Now its anything goes. If I have to explain this...


You are correct that I wouldn't go and tease a guy; then say no to him. I find the whole idea of teasing someone very immature and honestly I have more class than to act like that. Boggles my mind why anyone would stoop so low to do that.

AndyBgood's photo
Thu 12/20/12 09:21 AM



When I say No, I mean No. If a man thinks otherwise; he will be in for a painful surprise. bigsmile


but you also don't go around teasing men and not expecting them to react!

Hell, I grew up in the days of the BOTH FEET ON THE FLOOR, 18 INCHES OF SPACE BETWEEN rules. Now its anything goes. If I have to explain this...


You are correct that I wouldn't go and tease a guy; then say no to him. I find the whole idea of teasing someone very immature and honestly I have more class than to act like that. Boggles my mind why anyone would stoop so low to do that.



Because women here in America are under some impression they can have their way and becasue THEY have been oppressed for so long THEY deserve to give men the same treatment they think they got. Freedom went to their heads!

Suddenly women think they can hang on a guy, get all kissy with him, but when he gets aroused and tries to put tab A into slot B... suddenly its rape...

'Don't kiss me and tell me I am just a friend,' is a pretty basic rule WOMEN HERE IN AMERICA DON'T GET!

I have a BYTCH of a time when anyone infringes upon my three feet of safety space. And to have a woman invade that, get touchy feely with me, and suddenly I am just her friend?

I would like some of these women here to clarify that they had no intent of sexual contact at all with these men vs. these are men they are sexually involved with. Most of this sounds like CONTROL DRAMA to me...

no photo
Thu 12/20/12 09:25 AM




When I say No, I mean No. If a man thinks otherwise; he will be in for a painful surprise. bigsmile


but you also don't go around teasing men and not expecting them to react!

Hell, I grew up in the days of the BOTH FEET ON THE FLOOR, 18 INCHES OF SPACE BETWEEN rules. Now its anything goes. If I have to explain this...


You are correct that I wouldn't go and tease a guy; then say no to him. I find the whole idea of teasing someone very immature and honestly I have more class than to act like that. Boggles my mind why anyone would stoop so low to do that.



Because women here in America are under some impression they can have their way and becasue THEY have been oppressed for so long THEY deserve to give men the same treatment they think they got. Freedom went to their heads!

Suddenly women think they can hang on a guy, get all kissy with him, but when he gets aroused and tries to put tab A into slot B... suddenly its rape...

'Don't kiss me and tell me I am just a friend,' is a pretty basic rule WOMEN HERE IN AMERICA DON'T GET!

I have a BYTCH of a time when anyone infringes upon my three feet of safety space. And to have a woman invade that, get touchy feely with me, and suddenly I am just her friend?

I would like some of these women here to clarify that they had no intent of sexual contact at all with these men vs. these are men they are sexually involved with. Most of this sounds like CONTROL DRAMA to me...


Andy, this isn't a problem with American women. It seems to be a problem with you not being able to grasp the idea of consensual sex. If she says no, she doesn't consent to having sex with you. Period.

AndyBgood's photo
Thu 12/20/12 10:03 AM





When I say No, I mean No. If a man thinks otherwise; he will be in for a painful surprise. bigsmile


but you also don't go around teasing men and not expecting them to react!

Hell, I grew up in the days of the BOTH FEET ON THE FLOOR, 18 INCHES OF SPACE BETWEEN rules. Now its anything goes. If I have to explain this...


You are correct that I wouldn't go and tease a guy; then say no to him. I find the whole idea of teasing someone very immature and honestly I have more class than to act like that. Boggles my mind why anyone would stoop so low to do that.



Because women here in America are under some impression they can have their way and becasue THEY have been oppressed for so long THEY deserve to give men the same treatment they think they got. Freedom went to their heads!

Suddenly women think they can hang on a guy, get all kissy with him, but when he gets aroused and tries to put tab A into slot B... suddenly its rape...

'Don't kiss me and tell me I am just a friend,' is a pretty basic rule WOMEN HERE IN AMERICA DON'T GET!

I have a BYTCH of a time when anyone infringes upon my three feet of safety space. And to have a woman invade that, get touchy feely with me, and suddenly I am just her friend?

I would like some of these women here to clarify that they had no intent of sexual contact at all with these men vs. these are men they are sexually involved with. Most of this sounds like CONTROL DRAMA to me...


Andy, this isn't a problem with American women. It seems to be a problem with you not being able to grasp the idea of consensual sex. If she says no, she doesn't consent to having sex with you. Period.


Au` contraire, I know what consent is. having been an animal breeder both casually and professionally, I used to have a tropical Fish breeding operation and likewise I bred Rats for money. I had a pigeon coop, helped vets during the summer, trained dogs, been around horses, goats, pigs, and the idea of an animal being incapable of consent is homo-centric, ignorant, and shows the level of how stupid people really can be! Female horses can be particularly "Vocal" about their needs up to and including pinning people against walls and fences with their backsides rubbing like hell to scratch an itch she needs a stallion to scratch. I SEEN first hand what teasing a mare in heat can get you, crushed up against a fence and COATED in horse juice!

The thing is even Female animals may tease their males but at some point NO IS NOT ANSWER!

What YOU are refusing to understand is I know what 'no' means. You simple refuse to understand the concept of 'the point of no return!' I have been trying to explain myself but you evidently cannot read English or read selectively!

NOT COOL!

There are conditions YOUR argument falls completely apart.

I am glad you are not the woman who is a part of my life... We would be having communication breakdowns galore!

no photo
Thu 12/20/12 10:14 AM



Au` contraire, I know what consent is. having been an animal breeder both casually and professionally, I used to have a tropical Fish breeding operation and likewise I bred Rats for money. I had a pigeon coop, helped vets during the summer, trained dogs, been around horses, goats, pigs, and the idea of an animal being incapable of consent is homo-centric, ignorant, and shows the level of how stupid people really can be! Female horses can be particularly "Vocal" about their needs up to and including pinning people against walls and fences with their backsides rubbing like hell to scratch an itch she needs a stallion to scratch. I SEEN first hand what teasing a mare in heat can get you, crushed up against a fence and COATED in horse juice!

The thing is even Female animals may tease their males but at some point NO IS NOT ANSWER!

What YOU are refusing to understand is I know what 'no' means. You simple refuse to understand the concept of 'the point of no return!' I have been trying to explain myself but you evidently cannot read English or read selectively!

NOT COOL!

There are conditions YOUR argument falls completely apart.

I am glad you are not the woman who is a part of my life... We would be having communication breakdowns galore!


I have no problems with communication, as I am very upfront. You, on the other hand, have come out and actually said that sometimes women deserve to be raped. THAT is scary.

no photo
Thu 12/20/12 10:30 AM
This thread is called "Does no mean no?"

At some point in the thread the phrase "horse juice" was used.

Seriously. What the ~~~~.

Toodygirl5's photo
Thu 12/20/12 11:28 AM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Thu 12/20/12 11:30 AM

This came up in another thread, but I thought it could use a thread of it's own.

No means no. Do you agree with that? If not, why? What circumstances would make you not agree with it?


No not always agree ; Sometimes Women tease a guy and then try to pull back from having Sex. Don't play with fire, be serious about having sex with a man, and don't put yourself in a heated situation if you do not want to put out.

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 12/20/12 01:49 PM
Sometimes Women tease a guy and then try to pull back from having Sex.


spock So, some women do play games.

no photo
Thu 12/20/12 02:29 PM

Sometimes Women tease a guy and then try to pull back from having Sex.


spock So, some women do play games.


Don't be fooled. They are baiting the trap.

They show you what you might get... then they tell you that you have to marry them to get it.


Dodo_David's photo
Thu 12/20/12 02:37 PM


Sometimes Women tease a guy and then try to pull back from having Sex.


spock So, some women do play games.


Don't be fooled. They are baiting the trap.

They show you what you might get... then they tell you that you have to marry them to get it.



It is still game playing.

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Thu 12/20/12 02:41 PM



Sometimes Women tease a guy and then try to pull back from having Sex.


spock So, some women do play games.


Don't be fooled. They are baiting the trap.

They show you what you might get... then they tell you that you have to marry them to get it.



It is still game playing.



Most of the time yes. Men plays games too. They are just learning though, women have been doing it for years.

I have all the books about the game and pick up artists.


Dodo_David's photo
Thu 12/20/12 02:50 PM
Men plays games too. They are just learning though, women have been doing it for years.


laugh

AndyBgood's photo
Thu 12/20/12 02:58 PM


This came up in another thread, but I thought it could use a thread of it's own.

No means no. Do you agree with that? If not, why? What circumstances would make you not agree with it?


No not always agree ; Sometimes Women tease a guy and then try to pull back from having Sex. Don't play with fire, be serious about having sex with a man, and don't put yourself in a heated situation if you do not want to put out.


GOD DAMN IT! ANOTHER WOMAN WHO REALLY DOES GET IT!

flowerforyou You rock!flowerforyou

Some of the other FEMALES (I refuse to use the term LADY OR WOMAN HERE!) are under some impression they can equate a man who HUNTS WOMEN DOWN TO VICTIMIZE THEM vs. being involved in a committed relationship.

So at the two tag team queens here on my a$$ here is a valid question...

Let us say HYPOTHETICALLY you are married and somewhere down the line YOU decide sex is done with but you tell your Husband and he is not with that at all.

Do you cut him free or do you let him have sex with another woman?



Be fore warned, you answer this question at your own peril. Choose your answer CAREFULLY!

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 12/20/12 03:57 PM
Andy, is the sword necessary?
It's the holiday season.
So replace the sword with the "Three Stooges" version - a cream pie stuck to the ceiling.

AndyBgood's photo
Thu 12/20/12 09:33 PM

Andy, is the sword necessary?
It's the holiday season.
So replace the sword with the "Three Stooges" version - a cream pie stuck to the ceiling.



There is only one honorable answer here based on our nation's supposed morality. But then again there is one answer I can honor. Any other answer though...

So I await the response. I want to see how selfish these people can be...

no photo
Thu 12/20/12 09:50 PM
Sometimes NO means YES....I'm kidding, of course no means no.

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 12/20/12 10:18 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Thu 12/20/12 10:26 PM


Andy, is the sword necessary?
It's the holiday season.
So replace the sword with the "Three Stooges" version - a cream pie stuck to the ceiling.



There is only one honorable answer here based on our nation's supposed morality. But then again there is one answer I can honor. Any other answer though...

So I await the response. I want to see how selfish these people can be...


Can you at least replace the sword with a pie? I'm hungry.

To understand my pie reference, click here.

no photo
Fri 12/21/12 10:02 AM



This came up in another thread, but I thought it could use a thread of it's own.

No means no. Do you agree with that? If not, why? What circumstances would make you not agree with it?


No not always agree ; Sometimes Women tease a guy and then try to pull back from having Sex. Don't play with fire, be serious about having sex with a man, and don't put yourself in a heated situation if you do not want to put out.


GOD DAMN IT! ANOTHER WOMAN WHO REALLY DOES GET IT!

flowerforyou You rock!flowerforyou

Some of the other FEMALES (I refuse to use the term LADY OR WOMAN HERE!) are under some impression they can equate a man who HUNTS WOMEN DOWN TO VICTIMIZE THEM vs. being involved in a committed relationship.

So at the two tag team queens here on my a$$ here is a valid question...

Let us say HYPOTHETICALLY you are married and somewhere down the line YOU decide sex is done with but you tell your Husband and he is not with that at all.

Do you cut him free or do you let him have sex with another woman?



Be fore warned, you answer this question at your own peril. Choose your answer CAREFULLY!


Ah, so we've only been talking about committed relationships? I haven't.

I've never been married, nor have I ever decided I was done with sex, so that's not a question I can answer.

Also, if you're not treating women like ladies and with respect, don't expect respectful treatment in return. And just because women are disagreeing with you, it does not mean they're any less lady like than those who are nodding along with you.

Toodygirl5's photo
Fri 12/21/12 10:27 AM

I know many people for whom talking about sex before having it takes away from the spontaneity or passion

for me, personally, its a huge turn on for a man to be that in touch and honest ,,,,



I Agree with this!!!

AndyBgood's photo
Fri 12/21/12 10:28 AM




This came up in another thread, but I thought it could use a thread of it's own.

No means no. Do you agree with that? If not, why? What circumstances would make you not agree with it?


No not always agree ; Sometimes Women tease a guy and then try to pull back from having Sex. Don't play with fire, be serious about having sex with a man, and don't put yourself in a heated situation if you do not want to put out.


GOD DAMN IT! ANOTHER WOMAN WHO REALLY DOES GET IT!

flowerforyou You rock!flowerforyou

Some of the other FEMALES (I refuse to use the term LADY OR WOMAN HERE!) are under some impression they can equate a man who HUNTS WOMEN DOWN TO VICTIMIZE THEM vs. being involved in a committed relationship.

So at the two tag team queens here on my a$$ here is a valid question...

Let us say HYPOTHETICALLY you are married and somewhere down the line YOU decide sex is done with but you tell your Husband and he is not with that at all.

Do you cut him free or do you let him have sex with another woman?



Be fore warned, you answer this question at your own peril. Choose your answer CAREFULLY!


Ah, so we've only been talking about committed relationships? I haven't.

I've never been married, nor have I ever decided I was done with sex, so that's not a question I can answer.

Also, if you're not treating women like ladies and with respect, don't expect respectful treatment in return. And just because women are disagreeing with you, it does not mean they're any less lady like than those who are nodding along with you.


NICE WAY TO AVOID ANSWERING MY QUESTION!




I ask a question and you try THIS with me. ANSWER MY QUESTION OR SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

Again do I need to use small words? YOU are indeed attacking me. Passive aggressive or fistfight, they are the same to me. I poke holes in your argument and you say I am disrespecting women?

WRONG! WRONG AGAIN! If there is any disrespect going on it is right here and YOU are disrespecting me now! And doing so CLEARLY!






Shame on you yet again!


Once again I can see Your true colors. You indeed are on a crusade against men here. I bet you are one of those women who thinks since God gave you a slit we (men) should fall over backwards for you, lay the red carpet down for you, scatter rose petals in the street with your passing, all just for you, the empowered woman, queen of the world.

I am done here... It is clear I have located the man hating crusaders of respect here.

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