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My dog is well behaved but she jumps up and she's an attention seeker. From what you're saying, you wouldn't want to date someone with a dog like that and you would probably feel the same way about kids that aren't "obedience trained". Maybe these women don't want to date a guy like you?
Like I said, I had a girlfriend that had a teenage daughter and the girl could be a bit cheeky and was a typical teenager. I didn't go into that situation criticising people that don't bring up their children to be obedient and the same goes for dogs. There's a middle ground. The girl was cheeky and sulky but she wasn't really a bad kid. My dog jumps up and likes attention but she isn't a bad dog. I like dogs and as long as they aren't vicious, I don't have a problem with them. Same goes for children. Doesn't sound like you feel the same way about them though. You can tell a lot about a person from their attitude about these things. You can tell quite a lot about someone by looking at their dog or kids and how they behave. I think that if you dated a woman and started going on about obedience training like that she might think that you are some sort of control freak or a rather intolerant person. |
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OH I like kids...... I just never had any because I like vacations more Me too which is the same reason I don't have pets. 
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Edited by
navygirl
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Fri 01/31/14 02:46 AM
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You can think of it as a way of weeding out these women as well and you won't waste time getting to know them if you already know you don't want kids, pets, or religion in the relationship. Agreed. Those who prioritize such things in profile eliminate themselves from my consideration and save time. It is NOT that I don't want kids, pets or religion in a relationship, but rather that I refuse to be REQUIRED to "love" such things in advance in order to "qualify" for friendship. Note the emphasis on "friendship" rather than coupledom. Some children are pleasant, some pets are well-behaved, and religion can be unobtrusive BUT when a person is fanatical about any or all of those I have no interest. I agree. I am an atheist so no religion for me. I teach young kids leadership/music and play with my friends pets as long as I am not allergic to them. Funny how I am judged as a bad person because I chose not to care for kids or pets 24/7. I don't respect anyone that pre-judges me because I won't accept the responsibility of caring kids or pets 24/7. Just a closing thought that criminals can also be parents and pet owners but that doesn't make them people of good character. |
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. . . I am judged as a bad person because I chose not to care for kids or pets 24/7. EXACTLY Majority opinion seems to be "If you don't LOVE kids and pets (24/7) you can't be a very good person" (and if you don't worship / idolize one of the "gods" you must be a TERRIBLE person). What is it about kids and pets that imparts "goodness?" If a person is an upstanding citizen, honest, dependable, generous, willing to help those in need, etc, etc -- but prefers to interact with adult humans vs. relating to kids and pets -- WHY, exactly, are they "bad" or "not very good?" If religion makes a person "good", why are most incarcerated criminals Christians -- and why is the divorce rate among religious people as high or higher than that of non-religious couples? |
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Funny,this Thread reminded me of this Song by Tom T.Hall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVA1hbF-pz4 Tom T. Hall- Old Dogs, Children, and Watermelon Wine (With Lyrics)  Cool Song. lol Now it will be stuck in my brain for the day. |
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. . . I am judged as a bad person because I chose not to care for kids or pets 24/7. EXACTLY Majority opinion seems to be "If you don't LOVE kids and pets (24/7) you can't be a very good person" (and if you don't worship / idolize one of the "gods" you must be a TERRIBLE person). What is it about kids and pets that imparts "goodness?" If a person is an upstanding citizen, honest, dependable, generous, willing to help those in need, etc, etc -- but prefers to interact with adult humans vs. relating to kids and pets -- WHY, exactly, are they "bad" or "not very good?" If religion makes a person "good", why are most incarcerated criminals Christians -- and why is the divorce rate among religious people as high or higher than that of non-religious couples? Yep. Society sees the equation as no kids, no pets = bad person. Pets and kids = good person. Funny how no one sees a criminal as bad as long as they have kids or pets. 
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Nice strawman there but I don't think that anyone was really saying that you're a bad person because you don't care for pets or children twenty four seven. I love music but I don't want to spend every hour of the day listening to it. I love Italian food but I don't want to eat it all the time.
Navy girl and I have discussed pets before and if I remember correctly, she says that she doesn't particularly care for animals and doesn't want to date a man that has a pet. That's fine. Doesn't necessarily make her a bad person and it just means that she isn't really an animal lover. She's got her reasons for feeling the way that she does about them and like I told you, I had a girlfriend that did love dogs and she even had one herself but she didn't want me bringing my dog along when we went out and she got annoyed with me when I wanted to do that. I can do without having a girlfriend starting arguments though with me when I say that I want to bring my dog along when we go to the beach. I can do without someone getting jealous of my dog. I would prefer someone that does love animals and Navy Girl would prefer someone that loves traveling. For some people things like that are deal breakers. The other side of the "must" coin is that there are people that don't want to date someone with a pet or kids or a religion because they don't like those things. |
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I am more turned off by the word "MUST" than usually what follows. Someone has a big list of preferences I can deal with it but they start dictating how I MUST feel, behave, think well I will have the burning desire to hot foot it out of the door without even one look back. I don't really understand this. Isn't your saying you are turned off by the word Must the same thing as the ones who say you must? In other word are you not saying you must not say must? Is that not one of your preferences? |
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. . . I am judged as a bad person because I chose not to care for kids or pets 24/7. EXACTLY Majority opinion seems to be "If you don't LOVE kids and pets (24/7) you can't be a very good person" (and if you don't worship / idolize one of the "gods" you must be a TERRIBLE person). What is it about kids and pets that imparts "goodness?" If a person is an upstanding citizen, honest, dependable, generous, willing to help those in need, etc, etc -- but prefers to interact with adult humans vs. relating to kids and pets -- WHY, exactly, are they "bad" or "not very good?" If religion makes a person "good", why are most incarcerated criminals Christians -- and why is the divorce rate among religious people as high or higher than that of non-religious couples? Rather than complain about those who have preferences that do not match yours, why not use that time to get to know those with similar preferences? Complaining isn't going to change people's preferences. |
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Every time I list, must love dog, I get emails like this,
ASIAN SLAW DOG Prep: 20 min., Grill: 7 min. Squeezing the juice from grated ginger is easy and adds fresh flavor to this Asian-inspired slaw. To easily release the juice, press the ginger against the back of your measuring spoon using a finger |
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Funny,this Thread reminded me of this Song by Tom T.Hall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVA1hbF-pz4 Tom T. Hall- Old Dogs, Children, and Watermelon Wine (With Lyrics) Cool Song. lol Now it will be stuck in my brain for the day. still stuck in my Head on and off!
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Rather than complain about those who have preferences that do not match yours, why not use that time to get to know those with similar preferences? Complaining isn't going to change people's preferences. The "complaint" was registered against society in general rather than anyone's individual preferences. I fully accept that very few women share my values, interests, preferences -- and thus regard this venue as entertainment rather than as a place to meet someone compatible (since I don't watch television or movies). Of course, there is a chance of the "needle in a haystack", but I am quite content and fulfilled in a solo lifestyle. Perhaps a magnet would help find a needle? That "magnet" might be expressing ideas in a forum -- that strike a chord with a like-minded person? |
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"must" ok, I'm leaving now :) ^ THIS we agree on this much mg |
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My dog is well behaved but she jumps up and she's an attention seeker. From what you're saying, you wouldn't want to date someone with a dog like that and you would probably feel the same way about kids that aren't "obedience trained". Maybe these women don't want to date a guy like you? Like I said, I had a girlfriend that had a teenage daughter and the girl could be a bit cheeky and was a typical teenager. I didn't go into that situation criticising people that don't bring up their children to be obedient and the same goes for dogs. There's a middle ground. The girl was cheeky and sulky but she wasn't really a bad kid. My dog jumps up and likes attention but she isn't a bad dog. I like dogs and as long as they aren't vicious, I don't have a problem with them. Same goes for children. Doesn't sound like you feel the same way about them though. You can tell a lot about a person from their attitude about these things. You can tell quite a lot about someone by looking at their dog or kids and how they behave. I think that if you dated a woman and started going on about obedience training like that she might think that you are some sort of control freak or a rather intolerant person. don't you feel it's best to refrain from forcing your dog on others who may not be appreciative. I think it's the owners responsibility to restrain their animal. I do not want animal or saliva on me even in a "friendly" situation. I would not date someone who could not, out of respect and courtesy, restrain their animal (and in fact that was one of the reasons for my last break up) |
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I had a Pit.
At first she loved the dog. Came home one day and all my stuff was outside with my dog chained to it. I asked her,Baby what's up? Why you kickin me out. Apparently, she didn't like it my doggy ate her cats and kids. Couldn't believe she'd freak out like that! Women!! 
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I had a Pit. At first she loved the dog. Came home one day and all my stuff was outside with my dog chained to it. I asked her,Baby what's up? Why you kickin me out. Apparently, she didn't like it my doggy ate her cats and kids. Couldn't believe she'd freak out like that! Women!! 
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must not use the term 'god fearing' is what I should put in there if I cared enough to mention it. I just pass by that profile if I see it. I dont get fear in religion. I would rather be with a person who makes good choices because they value good choices, rather than being afraid of the wrath of god. Im like singme in that I just dont get upset about other persons preferences. Waste of time. I do get the frustration of seeing what you dont want over and over and over and over. I really like what you are saying here both about preferences and about the POV where God is concerned. I have no fear of our loving god. I know this is not the religion thread but it is part of the OP. If someone does not view god as a loving entity we will have NOTHING in common  I also do not "get" the "god fearing" thing 
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I had a Pit. At first she loved the dog. Came home one day and all my stuff was outside with my dog chained to it. I asked her,Baby what's up? Why you kickin me out. Apparently, she didn't like it my doggy ate her cats and kids. Couldn't believe she'd freak out like that! Women!! WUT?!?! Wasn't like she couldn't get more. 
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Edited by
sweetestgirl11
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Fri 01/31/14 07:53 PM
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I had a Pit. At first she loved the dog. Came home one day and all my stuff was outside with my dog chained to it. I asked her,Baby what's up? Why you kickin me out. Apparently, she didn't like it my doggy ate her cats and kids. Couldn't believe she'd freak out like that! Women!! WUT?!?! Wasn't like she couldn't get more. sounds like she wanted the ones she had what I don;t get is why a 4 legged saliva producer is more important than a loving woman who will make you breakfast |
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Nice strawman there but I don't think that anyone was really saying that you're a bad person because you don't care for pets or children twenty four seven. I love music but I don't want to spend every hour of the day listening to it. I love Italian food but I don't want to eat it all the time. Navy girl and I have discussed pets before and if I remember correctly, she says that she doesn't particularly care for animals and doesn't want to date a man that has a pet. That's fine. Doesn't necessarily make her a bad person and it just means that she isn't really an animal lover. She's got her reasons for feeling the way that she does about them and like I told you, I had a girlfriend that did love dogs and she even had one herself but she didn't want me bringing my dog along when we went out and she got annoyed with me when I wanted to do that. I can do without having a girlfriend starting arguments though with me when I say that I want to bring my dog along when we go to the beach. I can do without someone getting jealous of my dog. I would prefer someone that does love animals and Navy Girl would prefer someone that loves traveling. For some people things like that are deal breakers. The other side of the "must" coin is that there are people that don't want to date someone with a pet or kids or a religion because they don't like those things. Actually; I was referring to one of the posters that stated pets are a good judge of character. Some dogs really like me and some don't. I don't treat or act differently around any animal so the problem isn't with me but with that person's pet. However; they will quickly judge me as a bad person because their pet doesn't like me. Its not that I don't like pets; I simply don't have time to care for them and at my age I don't want to be tied down to a pet or a child for that matter. Its not just the traveling; its the shift work; its the community volunteering that keeps me out of the house most of the time on evenings and weekend trips. There are times I go from work right to my community events so I couldn't walk the dog or let the dog out for bathroom breaks. I also have to travel with the military and I can't bring a dog along with me. Not to mention; most hotels simply will not allow pets, so I would be restricted to where I could stay. There are beaches that won't allow pets near the beach so if I had a pet; I couldn't go there. I like having the freedom to go somewhere on a moment's notice but with pets or kids; I simply couldn't do that without making arrangements. |
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