Government is the only thing that can stand against corporate power. I do not think Mr Pain could see this from his time. The trouble with government is that it has been purchased.

Its past present and future leadership the world is heading for a global police state. Massive surveillance of every aspect of our lives is going on right now. We face a future of drones, rubber bullets acoustic crowd control weapons and a downward economic spiral while the financial elite control the media and your perception of reality. There is no turning back this tide unless good people take a stand.

Its allot easier to ignore it go watch the football game and stick your head in the sand and pretend you live in a country that defends "freedom".

What is amusing to Mr Conrad? What do you think is not real in the above post? I could googl it all for you but why?

I have to wonder what exactly you do stand for? You seem to be against anyone or anything that attempts to make the world a better place. You guffaws and chuckles contribute nothing to adult discussions and make your positions on things seem rather foolish to thinking adults.

I blame Fox news

well you wont find me trolling the "swiss" political threads at 700 am.

Anyone who can argue with these truths are deluded and willfully misinformed.

Oil prices fell early Monday after a groundbreaking agreement aimed at curbing Iran's nuclear program eased tensions in the region and raised the prospect of more oil exports from the country.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/25/investing/oil-iran/index.html

Anyone notice the price of gas is dropping like a stone? Thanks diplomacy, you worked.

Well if you really are a Swiss your lucky as you live in one of the most progressive countries in Europe. So why do you support all the neo con garbage that goes on in the US?

The Swiss have more people in Unions per Capita than the US. Wiki has them at one in four. Seems you know very little of your own country. I am not even sure if you are as you claim. "Swiss"

In case you have trouble in math thats 25% of Swiss workers in a union or confederation.

The US is 12.5%.

Consider yourself better informed on this matter good sir.

Its like playing chess with a pigeon You knock the pieces over crap on the board, strut around and declare victory and fly back to your neocon fascist flock.

Francis said trickle down policies have not been proven to work and they reflect a “naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power.”

“In this context, some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world,” Pope Francis wrote.

“This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system,” the 76-year-old pontiff added.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/11/pope-francis-slams-trickle-down-economics-and-greed-at-the-top/

Again Mr Conrad the fact 39% voted for the 12/1 is a victory considering Switzerland is a fairly progressive country with many benefits not enjoyed in the US.

I wonder how the US would vote if we actually had a chance to.

In the United States the wealthiest one per cent of the population owns more than the bottom 95 per cent.

Picture our future Mr Conrad its pretty pathetic. a 24/7 surveillance state, facial recognition cameras all over the place and slave wages for the bottom 99%, that is the future that is being built I cheer anyone who opposes this.

A avalanche starts small and ends big.

People are waking up to what our future is going to look like, a global surveillance state paying slave wages to the bottom 99% and a gilded age for the wealthy. Be proud you can actually vote on it Mr Conrad.

Considering the big money outspent the reformers like 50/1 it's not surprising who won the election but the issue has been raised and that is a small victory.

The claim that big business would relocate to avoid the 12/1 is fear mongering and the dupes fell for it. What is needed is a global 12/1 so the crooks and thieves have no place to run.

Oil prices fell early Monday after a groundbreaking agreement aimed at curbing Iran's nuclear program eased tensions in the region and raised the prospect of more oil exports from the country.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/25/investing/oil-iran/index.html

It is a victory for the common man just that the issue was raised. I expect we have not heard the last of this issue. :)

No Mr Conrad but if y our paying attention and you would if you truly cared, you would notice the economic disparity is the highest its been since the days of serfdom. The rich have awarded themselves more money in the worst economic times since the great depression and predictably things are worse.

The middle class pays taxes spends money and helps the economy grow and we are clearly losing the class war,its way past time for the majority of the people to stand up and say "enough".

cutting taxes for the elite and corporations has done NOTHING except make things worse.

Agreed if we had a media, if we had representatives that were not beholden to the money interests maybe it would be put to a vote. I am sure it would pass.

Fill me in Mr Conrad.

Here in Uber Amerika our rich Have so many loopholes and off shore accounts they pay little taxes, however if that income actually trickled down to the middle class, we pay a very high percent in taxes and that would result in more taxable income.

Yes I am not from Europe or Sweden but you are so give us your take on the situation sounds fair to me from were I sit.