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Fri 06/01/12 03:35 PM


You can disagree, spider. However, from what I've seen, children are taught to hate. Many learn it from their parents.

not always, spider is right on this... while most hate is taught from their surroundings, some kids are just born with it. with the singing kid here however, i feel it was taught to him from the church itself, but that is what they believe and were taught by their parents.


I think it's obvious that the kid didn't even know what he was saying. I doubt he has any emotions behind what he was saying, other than pride for the attention he received.

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Fri 06/01/12 03:33 PM



...sings a little boy at church and gets a standing ovation.

Awwww, ain't it cute to teach hate!!!


Hate comes natural, it doesn't have to be taught.

I abhor the message and behavior of the people, but I fall on the side of freedom.

The way I see it is this: It's always better to know how people really feel, so that you can be more selective about who you associate with.


I agree that "hate comes natural", but that statement should be qualified...Everyone is born with the "capacity" to hate, but not the "instinct" to hate...Hate stems from cultural factors, learned biases, and lack of understanding...Parents are not the only ones who can teach their children to hate, life teaches hate...I think a parents responsibility is to teach their child how and why NOT to hate...


I agree with everything but the bold part. Many people carry genes that make them xenophobic. It's a survival trait, just like sickle cell is a survival trait or dark skin or facial hair.

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Fri 06/01/12 03:30 PM

I actually agree with Spider that the feeling of hate is natural. However, I don't believe that everything natural is good.


I agree with that completely. Xenophobia helped us to get where we are, but it is counter to the society that we are trying to build today. I'm just making a point that xenophobia is genetic to people whose ancestors lived in areas where outsiders sometimes visited. We shouldn't be too hard on the xenophobic, as those survival traits helped us build society today.

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Fri 06/01/12 01:27 PM

Just because you have interpreted some information somewhere to fit into your thoughts doesn't mean it's FACT spider.

Because you believe that one of us MUST be right and one of us MUST be wrong, doesn't mean it is..


Science cannot prove a theory to be absolutely true, but it can prove theories to be false. The evidence shows that children naturally mistrust and are fearful of people (particularly men) of other races. Children don't have to be raised to be xenophobic, they just have to be human.


But if you must make me wrong to make yourself right, so be it.
It doesn't matter that much to me.

flowerforyou


Don't you think it's a bit disingenuous to play the "maturity card" and then offer a flower? If it didn't matter to you and if you did have philia or agape for me, wouldn't you have ended your post without the last three lines? I think so.

I'm not saying I'm right (although I am saying you are wrong), just that I'm more correct, because I'm on the side of the research.

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Fri 06/01/12 01:14 PM
50% of black babies conceived in the USA are aborted. Some of the eugenics programs of the 20's, 30's and 40's were never shut down, they just keep chugging along.

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Fri 06/01/12 12:15 PM

You can disagree, spider. However, from what I've seen, children are taught to hate. Many learn it from their parents.


That's the nurture side and nobody is refuting that. My point is that most children don't have to be taught to reject "outsiders". Seriously, did you and Ladylid2012 go to the nicest grammar and high schools in the world? There were no cliches? There were no "outsiders" who were mistreated or avoided by most other students? Do you guys honestly think that all of that originates from the parents?

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Fri 06/01/12 12:11 PM


Respectfully, you are both wrong. Xenophobia, racism, fear of the unknown are all genetic survival traits. You can believe as you will, you can dismiss xenophobia's past benefits to society if you want.


Can we just disagree or do we HAVE to be "wrong?" laugh




Unfortunately, yes. When the facts refute a hypothesis, those who hold to that theory are simply wrong. It's nothing personal about it, everyone is wrong from time to time. The research done in this field clearly refutes the belief that you have to be taught to hate those who aren't like you.

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Fri 06/01/12 10:25 AM
Respectfully, you are both wrong. Xenophobia, racism, fear of the unknown are all genetic survival traits. You can believe as you will, you can dismiss xenophobia's past benefits to society if you want.

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Fri 06/01/12 09:49 AM

I respectfully disagree...
children are not born with hate in their hearts...NO!

We, the all knowing adults in their lives TEACH hate.
This kid is what 3 or 4? He is only love and his innocence has been taken away. This little boy probably has NO idea what a 'homo' is. He has just been taught it is a fellow human that is evil.
That IS teaching hate.


Hate, closed mindedness and xenophobia are major contributing factors to the survival of our species. Our societies may have outgrow their usefulness, but our genetics still make many of us naturally hate the unknown.

Not so long ago, strangers brought only new diseases or war. Most of our ancestors developed a natural closed mindedness and an aversion to strangers in order to protect our tribes. Additionally, our brains are only wired to manage close relationships with around 100 people. Another factor that limited primitive tribes in size and ensured that outsiders rarely found a warm welcome.

People who are open to strangers lack the necessary genes to protect the tribe from outsiders. Maybe you would have jeopardized the tribes survival, because you are so open to new things. Thankfully, the closed minded tribe members kept civilization alive, so that today, the norm is to be more accepting of different people and cultures.

Do you hate black people for being black? Tall people for being tall? If not, then why reject as simply wrong the naturally xenophobic people, without whom, we may not even exist today.

I'm not saying that we, as a society, need to hold onto xenophobia. I'm just saying that we need to see it for what it is, a survival trait that helped us get to this point, but is no longer as useful, rather than thinking of the xenophobic as purely wrong headed.

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Fri 06/01/12 12:10 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Fri 06/01/12 12:11 AM

...sings a little boy at church and gets a standing ovation.

Awwww, ain't it cute to teach hate!!!


Hate comes natural, it doesn't have to be taught.

I abhor the message and behavior of the people, but I fall on the side of freedom.

The way I see it is this: It's always better to know how people really feel, so that you can be more selective about who you associate with.

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Thu 05/31/12 11:55 PM

Written by whom?


Isaiah 51:7
King James Version (KJV)

7 Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law; fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their revilings.

Jeremiah 31:33
King James Version (KJV)

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.


Hebrews 8:10
King James Version (KJV)

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:


I don't need any book that was corrupted by Romans telling me what is right and wrong...


How do you know that those verse you quoted aren't "corrupted"?


Jeremiah 17:9

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

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Thu 05/31/12 11:39 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Thu 05/31/12 11:51 PM

For one I have no problem with homosexuals. Secondly, yes those that just have sex for purely the pleasure are just as much in the wrong and against God's commandments.


The Bible is replete with examples of loving God fearing couples have sex for pleasure. You really need to stop preaching and read your Bible. I won't respond to you any further, you are wrong and that is all there is to it.

EDIT: I see that your position has evolved to allowing sex for pleasure between married couples.

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Thu 05/31/12 11:31 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Thu 05/31/12 11:32 PM

i think they should encourage it more... have sales and speacils on abortions, so more women would have them... how many billions of people do we really need on this planet anyway?


Isn't it interesting that the "born" get to decide that we can do with fewer of the "unborn". It's a one sided argument, the unborn has a life, but no say in what is done with it.

Reminds me of Dred Scott. Instead of "No person of African descent can be a citizen of the United States", we get "No fetus can be a citizen of the United States".

Basically, abortion supporters insist that the unborn human belongs to the mother. It has no rights beyond what she grants it, including the right to life.

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Thu 05/31/12 03:41 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Thu 05/31/12 03:44 PM
The article has inaccurate information. The two women in the picture are wearing BDUs, which you are allowed to eat, drink and basically live in.

I see nothing wrong with it, but I do think the woman with the twins could cover up a bit.

EDIT: I really think that the author of the article is trying to create drama, rather than just tell the facts. As stated above, the women didn't break any rules by breast feeding in their BDUs. The article is very vague about who is disturbed by this. I call shenanigans.

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Thu 05/31/12 12:42 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Thu 05/31/12 12:47 PM

So, you're saying it's not actually legal through the law? When did the law change to make it not legal then?


Abortion would first have to be made legal. Correction: The Constitution would have to be Amended to give the Federal Government the authority to write laws on abortion, then they would have to make it legal, then they could make it illegal again.

As the current US Code stands, abortion is left up to the states to decide, except for a 7-2 ruling in Roe v Wade, which universally legalized abortion.

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Thu 05/31/12 12:36 PM

I suppose, if talking about rights and responsibilities, if the man has knowledge the woman is impregnated with his sperm, he should have the legal right to contest an abortion.

Same man needs to be able to provide sufficient prenatal care while the incubator is holding his kid.

Upon birth, he should be awarded full custody of the kid.

I don't wanna' screw up my figure or, don't want my parents to find out BS needs to not be allowed in the abortion decision process.


So your position is that women should be able to murder their unborn children, but only for reasons of which you approve? Am I understanding that correctly?

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Thu 05/31/12 12:34 PM

Well..what I said is birth control and birth control education should be offered to ALL women and should be free. I said nothing of government murdering babies.


Planned Parenthood provides abortions. Taxpayers should not be forced to help pay for abortions. What is hard to understand?


Valid? Murdering those in foreign lands is valid?

You care so much about the unborn, yet find the murder of other humans acceptable and valid?

I guess I don't understand that.


Murder is never justified. Opposing forces killing each other in war is not murder. Innocents being killed accidentally in war is not murder.

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Thu 05/31/12 12:15 PM



Why then are cuts in Planned parenthood seemly alright with so many who are pro life?
Abortion is a very small part of what PP does.
The free birth control that was handed out prevented many of these unwanted babies. Then the suits in DC decide not to do that, then the uneducated get knocked up and seek an abortion.

Education is the key and it is denied to way to many women ALL OVER the world. Birth control education should be taught FREE and offered FREE. Ya wanna prevent abortions..educate and prevent.



I don't support Government funding for any organizations. The money that the Government spends came from and the taxpayers. No tax payer should have to support any program that violates their personal or religious beliefs.


The problem won't go away if we are not willing or able to look past our personal beliefs.
It's not about us...it's about the unborn child.

I object to my taxes going to fund war....indifferent


One of the only valid functions of Government is to go to war. The Government has no valid function in murdering unborn children.

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Thu 05/31/12 12:08 PM

Why then are cuts in Planned parenthood seemly alright with so many who are pro life?
Abortion is a very small part of what PP does.
The free birth control that was handed out prevented many of these unwanted babies. Then the suits in DC decide not to do that, then the uneducated get knocked up and seek an abortion.

Education is the key and it is denied to way to many women ALL OVER the world. Birth control education should be taught FREE and offered FREE. Ya wanna prevent abortions..educate and prevent.



I don't support Government funding for any organizations. The money that the Government spends came from and the taxpayers. No tax payer should have to support any program that violates their personal or religious beliefs.

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Thu 05/31/12 12:05 PM

A fetus is NOT a human being, no matter how much folks want it to be. Potential is not the same as the thing itself.


What makes an unborn child a human being? At what point does that happen?

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