Lol you're going into semantics, this i know, but for those who don't i'm glad you clarified.

Adam and Eve disobeyed God so they started "original sin", if they didn't start it, then the accounts for Genesis cannot be true.

K, so last part is Gods of the gaps, got the out the way. Secondly, when i said common ancestor i didn't mean the word literally of knowing the definition, i meant how it applies to evolution, exhibited in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSmTPThWD_c

Also, i brought this up because i was watching a YouTube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2f_CZsXbyk&feature=player_detailpage#t=341s

The above is a person who is a Christian who accepts it and knows it to be a fact (bravo for him), you can watch the whole thing if you want, i couldn't sit through it, the lack of knowledge is unbearable.

Well, that is explained a lot, through a lot of mutations of course the chicken evolved from reptile type species with no fur. So if you want to know the question literally, then the egg obviously came first.

Source : http://en.allexperts.com/q/Evolution-3839/2008/7/evolution-chicken.htm

All of this i figured anyway (from what i read), but i think they lay it out more eloquently.

@MsHarmony

Do you know anything about evolution? I'm only asking not to discredit your knowledge if it is there, but if you don't know or understand what i mean by common ancestor, i believe that is a dead give away for me. Also, you said ID have not been disprove (which again you cannot disprove something that there is no evidence for), if you feel that way, why do you believe in ID (without the whole watchmaker talk/ KCA) that ID is more provable then anything outside it?

@CowBoyGH

I say this have everything to do with Jesus, because according to YEC, the earth is only 6000 years old more or less. If this is true, there is not enough time for evolution to occur, so that would negate the 600 years and show that we are not just a few generations from Adam and Eve. Thus, if Adam and Eve never existed (they bit the fruit), then original sin never existed. If original sin never existed, then he would've not died for our sins (there would be no reason to) and if he didn't the that would cancel out the tenets of Christianity.

As evolution suggests we evolved from a common ancestor of the great apes.

If you don't accept evolution why is that?

Also, if you do, especially for a Christian how does that coincide with original sin (considering there would be no need for Adam and Eve)? Also that would dismantle the need for Jesus to die on the cross.

Thanks for the responses to come.

Uh, OK.

Since everyone sharing something.
Kinda long i know
Here's a poem i wrote :) :

My letter to mankind

We are human with characteristic of intelligence, charisma, problematic differences, indistinguishable love and evil. We share common traits, we have eyes, emotional smiles, flesh, blood, hearts, brains, lungs, the biology of our existence, the interchangeable fate of life and death, the conscience of great morality if we so see it. I am you, you are me, we are human, the tree of life, the pentacle of evolutionary champions, the height of love, the expression of art, the beauty of music, and the sanity of self-reflection to co-exist in a lonely universe. We go fourth in our endeavors, whether it be mother to child, child to mother, we love, we carry on for our future generation, negating any selfishness to deprive the future, we have to carry on, keep moving, motivating, and striving.

We are strict in our cliché lifestyle that fits us, it’s who we are, and it’s who we’ve become. We’re born into a world, opening our eyes to new adventures, to a nurturing family, a sense of history, and a legacy of your own, as a human.
We are love, the essence of its stronghold; we create rhythms, sounds, beats and harmonization of musical tones to express love through our instruments. We express it through kissing, sexual passion, holding, hugging, crying, marrying, and caring. We have our own self-reflection on what love it to us, we are all different but one in the same of expressing this emotional burden that hurts and pleases us.

We are selfish in our own dehumanization of fellow humans; we’re racist, murderers, ignorant, fundamentalist, and proponents of nihilism. Where does our good morality begin, and where does it end? How many have to go hungry? How many have to suffer? Do you pray for a new Bentley, a new Christmas present, or for the children starving? Our selfishness perceives us. We’re all brothers and sisters in this lonely universe and we should stick together.
We are believers and non-believers on a planet called earth, where everyone should be established on equilibrium. We’re Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Judaism, Deist, Agnostic, and Atheist yet we all share one thing, what is apparent to us - what we perceive life to be. The notion of our existence from our birth to death which does not allude us, we exist in this existence and should respect each other in this existence.

We are Straight, Gay or lesbian who do not want to commit suicide because someone demonize our sexual representation that suits us, what if the world told you, you was wrong for being a heterosexual? They’re still human, flesh and blood, crying like me and you, lonely, depressed, deprived of acceptance, when does it end? Who are you to tell another to live their life?

We are humans, an exponentially wise mammal, on the top of the kingdom, the power to destroy, and the power to create. We’re love, we’re evil, we’re selfish, and we’re what we make this world to be. This is our earth, our children, our brethren; let’s carry on, because we’re humane.


Yes, it's long so what. :)

Off-topic: What up with the multiple commas?

This is interesting, i keep up with this thread.

I lol'd pretty hard, thanks.

Do Christians really think a lot of atheists or others hate them? I'm an atheist as I'm sure most of your know and I don't hate Christians, in fact I'm very involved with one now (we been through or differences phase and I still respect and like her) . I don't hate Christians, I just don't like Christianity, Islam or any organized religion that promotes hate. Religion should only be about love and to self.

Still don't get it.

it started off good, then went left field.

This is beyond me. It's like, it is impossible for modern culture to regard their religion as such. One civilization religion in their time, is the next generation entertainment.

YES!

I am calm, i just felt like i asked the same thing in three different ways for you to reply in a more elaborated manner.

wtf in your quote you said there is large amounts of evidence that suggests the big bang is a alternative to creationism! How did you come to this conclusion and on what evidence.

^ This is what i'm talking about since i have to be more direct.

Citation please for the large amount of evidence for creationism, no sarcasm, i really would like to see.