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For years I have advocated that the Second Amendment be mandatory in that everyone regardless of Race, colour, creed or mental condition be required to have guns. I have also advocated that the general population have access to equal weapons of the armed forces, just in case they are told to act against their own people by order of the govt. Let's keep the 'playing field'(aka 'the killing fields') level.It's all a matter of trust and if people cannot trust their government, why trust their military...never mind the police. "Traumer"....if you are truely an advocate that the general population have equal weaponry to that of the armed forces, then that would entail that you are an advocate that everyone should have nukes including the "irresponsible" or as you put it "any mental condition" why would the government have any fear of it's citizens if the only weaponry it's citizens have are guns and the government has nukes I suppose if the government launch a nuke and if all the citizens fired the supposed 300 millions guns at the nuke they probably can bring it down, unfortunately bringing it down was the exact purpose it was launched to wipe out everyone that was shooting at it so unless you are going to start advocating that everyone including those with mental illness have nukes which will clearly make all the News channels, then pay note to what Obama is trying to with placing in restrictions since the government has nukes, Obama has no need to protect the government from you...the restrictions are to protect you from your crazed or irresponsible next door neighbor |
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I guess the best way to explain this is to go down the list of weapons... from nukes to BB guns
ok so far we have one person that claim that in order to maintain liberty everyone should have access to weaponry that can take out an entire city block and another person claim that everyone including the "irresponsible" should have access to a Predator Drone ok let's see how the general public having access to those types of weapons "without any restrictions" would have possibly played in the sandy hook incident if the guy had access to a weapon that could take out an entire city block...then he wouldn't have to walk to the school, he only had to be about a block away ...not much point in having arms guards ..or doors now if that same guy had access to a Predator Drone...then he could have blowed up the entire school without even having to leave his home but to keep the 2ND amendment intact in which everyone including the irresponsible can have access to a Predator Drone...you could equip the neigborhood with defenses at or around the school with the capacity to shoot down a missle fired by a predator drone or you could place restrictions on which type of weaponry the general public can have access to or place restrictions on "who" can have access, sounds like something that Obama and THe NRA is trying to do under the category of "Mental Health" for example...do you think that if someone steals your predator drone that you should report it, or what about your children, should they have access to your predator drone...should domestic abusers have predator drones or those with mental illiness |
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If the cost of a city block, or even an entire city, is the price of liberty, then it is a price I would be willing to pay. The politics of fear should not be a driving force behind the suspension of liberty. As Ben Franklin once said, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty." I for one realize that the cost of freedom is paid with the price of blood. For a society to remain free this price must be paid on a regular basis. We Americans have become to think that this price is paid on foriegn soil, but this is not so. When the price is paid abroad, it is our enemy partisans that are giving the sacrifice, not our own soldiers. The price of American freedom is paid here, at home. It is a price paid by those who die from gun violence. It is paid by those who die in car crashes. It is paid by those who die from stab wounds in a park. Our freedoms are not free. Unless you desire a state where every soul is monitored, where you are low-jacked with a bio-chip so your every movement can be traced, then the freedoms you don't agree with must also be allowed. The truth is we learned nothing from 9/11. We panicked. We, through our arrogance, thought that this could not happen here, though terrorism had occurred in Europe many times. As a result, we made our state look more like those whom we claim to be oppressive. We continue to do so with the false claims that "this shouldn't happen here." As long as we have a free society, it can and it will. It is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when. Man is still just an animal like any other, and violent aggression is part of animal nature. We have just perfected it like no other animal. if you actually had Freedom ...there would be no need for a Constitution or Toll Roads ....that society will become a state that everyone is monitored has already become a reality...you don't need a microchip in the skin for that to happen...you only need a cellphone or a tattoo etc. |
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This thread makes about as much sense as carrying a pocket full of rocks. or perhaps a head full of rocks, which is why you can't answer the question as if you believe that the 2ND amendment gives you and your neighbors or any other "irresponsible" person the right to have nukes ...that question seem to have popped you back into reality All responsible citizens don't go around killing innocent folks like yer messiah. my Messiah is greasy food and al-co-hol the beer god, and he only kills when people drink him Is he not a mass murderer? hell yes he's a mass murderer ....that's why restrictions were place on al-co-hol the beer god, for example..you can't drink the blood of alcohol the beer god and drive but anyway...are you "willing2"(no pun intended) answer the question? .... THE QUESTION: do you believe that the 2ND amendment gives you and your neighbor and any other "irresponsible" person the right to bear nukes? |
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Edited by
funches
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Tue 01/22/13 09:51 AM
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would you like everyone to have one of those Obama Drones that you claim kill women and children or do you perfer restrictions on that type of fire power? so how much fire power would you like? If an irresponsible Barry can have 'em and kill innocents? Hell, why not everyone? ok so far you believe that the 2ND amendment gives you and your neighbors and any other "irresponsible" person the right to have Drones.. so what other fire power do you believe that you and your neighbors and other irresponsible people should have?...what about nukes? |
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would you like everyone to have one of those Obama Drones that you claim kill women and children or do you perfer restrictions on that type of fire power?
so how much fire power would you like? |
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and speaking of nuclear weapons, do the 2ND amendment "the right to bear arms" means everyone can have a nuclear weapon or a tank or a drone with heat seeking missles, do you really want your next door neighbor to have these, or would you want restrictions in place that limit which arms an individual can bear ...and that's what Obama is trying to do
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"the right to bear arms" with the forefathers began with a flintlock and cannons and now today it's a 30 round magazine and nuclear warheads as technology advances and guns evolve, the right to bear arms will eventually evolve into arms that not everyone will have the right to bear or can be entrusted with a gun will evolve beyond using "standard issue bullets" and be able to take out an entire city block, this much power and the damage it could cause is why it's illegal now to have dynamite or the such without a license or certification and restrictions and the same will happen to gun owners or the right to bear arms the best way to deal with this problem now and keep the 2ND amendment intact is to make it a mental health issue which obama-care is attempting by providing free mental health care and by the NRA which in it's opening statement after the sandy hook incident has agreed to help fund mental health care for those with mental illness or issues also by invoking laws and the mentality that psychiatrists and lawyers and gun owners be held responsible for those that have made threats or are a threat to the public in general this is why by making it a mental health issue you can control who have guns, I mean let's face it...do you know anyone that's don't have mental illnesses or issues in some shape form or fashion by placing restriction on gun owners today will limit the right to bear arms and the technology that define arms to only "standard issue bullets" and nothing beyond that... by making it a mental health issue the 2ND amendment will still be a "right" but in reality it will be used to take away your rights to not actually have a right to any advance technology or weaponry without a license and/or certification and restrictions ...and how much are you willing to bet that will entail a mental health evaluation .. but anyway....all that have to be done is limit the right to bear arms to "standard issue bullets"....and the right to bear them will become more of a novelty or obsolete as technology advances beyond guns or the need for them making it into a mental health issue will evolve the 2ND admendment from a "right" to bear arms into a "privilege" to bear them for an elite few  well... you trust them with nuclear weapons .. |
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Who knows what the next president will do. If he/she is like baby Bush they will let all this expire or they may with the help of congress and the senate fortify our right to defend ourselves as required by the bill of rights. the founding fathers didn't have a concept that one day people would own plasma or pulse laser rifles that could possible take out all of the minute men with one shot |
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They nee3d to go after the gun pushers too. that's why they are pushing for gun registration or to report when ones gun is stolen or missing so guns can be tracked but it's ready not about the 2ND amendment or guns it's more about keeping ahead of technology... because soon with a 3D printer one will be able to print out a gun |
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"the right to bear arms" with the forefathers began with a flintlock and cannons and now today it's a 30 round magazine and nuclear warheads
as technology advances and guns evolve, the right to bear arms will eventually evolve into arms that not everyone will have the right to bear or can be entrusted with a gun will evolve beyond using "standard issue bullets" and be able to take out an entire city block, this much power and the damage it could cause is why it's illegal now to have dynamite or the such without a license or certification and restrictions and the same will happen to gun owners or the right to bear arms the best way to deal with this problem now and keep the 2ND amendment intact is to make it a mental health issue which obama-care is attempting by providing free mental health care and by the NRA which in it's opening statement after the sandy hook incident has agreed to help fund mental health care for those with mental illness or issues also by invoking laws and the mentality that psychiatrists and lawyers and gun owners be held responsible for those that have made threats or are a threat to the public in general this is why by making it a mental health issue you can control who have guns, I mean let's face it...do you know anyone that's don't have mental illnesses or issues in some shape form or fashion by placing restriction on gun owners today will limit the right to bear arms and the technology that define arms to only "standard issue bullets" and nothing beyond that... by making it a mental health issue the 2ND amendment will still be a "right" but in reality it will be used to take away your rights to not actually have a right to any advance technology or weaponry without a license and/or certification and restrictions ...and how much are you willing to bet that will entail a mental health evaluation .. but anyway....all that have to be done is limit the right to bear arms to "standard issue bullets"....and the right to bear them will become more of a novelty or obsolete as technology advances beyond guns or the need for them making it into a mental health issue will evolve the 2ND admendment from a "right" to bear arms into a "privilege" to bear them for an elite few |
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since Women are from Venus and Men from Mars, why would distance matter if both of you are on Earth
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And on top of that, it says nothing about speaking "Hebrew". Who's to say we all originally spoke Hebrew? We only know the language of that one particular culture. simple deduction Cowboy The Tower of Babel happened after the great flood in which all the survivors which was Noah and family all spoke Hebrew according to the bible everyone spoke the same language, it's only logical that all the offsprings of Noah were Jews and spoke hebrew therefore everyone spoke Hebrew until God's punishment and they began to speak different languages but either way God first spoke his name to Moses in Hebrew and his son's name to Mary in hebrew so now all you have to do is type the name(s)in hebrew or the pronunciation that God spoke to Moses and Mary but it's a catch 22...if you do type the names in hebrew then you have become enlighten under my tutelage my young Jedi padawan..and I know that you'll hate for that to happen but if you don't write the names in Hebrew and instead say "What you talking about Funches?"..then you would have prove the point of the thread ok people once again place your bets ...place your bets here people will Cowboy type the names or not I am done with these stupid games you play about the name. A name is a name, regardless of what language it is said in. And you know not if all Noah's family spoke Hebrew or not. Where do you get this information? all you had to do was type the name(s)in hebrew or the pronunciation that God spoke to Moses and Mary ...but anyway thanks for playing and proving the point of this thread it's these Perry Mason moments that makes it all worthwhile |
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Edited by
funches
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Mon 01/14/13 06:51 PM
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And on top of that, it says nothing about speaking "Hebrew". Who's to say we all originally spoke Hebrew? We only know the language of that one particular culture. simple deduction Cowboy The Tower of Babel happened after the great flood in which all the survivors which was Noah and family all spoke Hebrew according to the bible everyone spoke the same language, it's only logical that all the offsprings of Noah were Jews and spoke hebrew therefore everyone spoke Hebrew until God's punishment and they began to speak different languages but either way God first spoke his name to Moses in Hebrew and his son's name to Mary in hebrew so now all you have to do is type the name(s)in hebrew or the pronunciation that God spoke to Moses and Mary but it's a catch 22...if you do type the names in hebrew then you have become enlighten under my tutelage my young Jedi padawan..and I know that you'll hate for that to happen but if you don't write the names in Hebrew and instead say "What you talking about Funches?"..then you would have prove the point of the thread ok people once again place your bets ...place your bets here people will Cowboy type the names or not |
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Jeez Cowboy ...it appears that I have to teach you the hard way my young jedi padawan THE QUESTION: is speaking different languages a punishment from God? it's a simple yes or no question Uhh no, what are you talking about? How would it be grounds for punishment funches? lol. Silly, silly questions. I've already mention The Tower of Babel, so acting dense only proves the point of this thread ...but then again it's obvious that you haven't read the bible but only "google cut and paste" from it so you probably don't know the story but anyway, The Tower of Babel explains why talking in a different language other than Hebrew was a punishment from God...it's amazing how the bible always look out for the jews The Tower of Babel Incident is why you worship Baal as God and find it impossible to write/say/type the original name of God that was spoken to Moses and Mary but actually I think you refuse to type the original name to keep me from the glory of being "Right" so which is it Cowboy.....show your Love for the almighty and write/type his original "non-tower of babel" name spoken to Moses and Mary this is so exciting...will Cowboy do it? place your bets...or tithes perhaps |
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Jeez Cowboy ...it appears that I have to teach you the hard way my young jedi padawan
THE QUESTION: is speaking different languages a punishment from God? it's a simple yes or no question |
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I done told you Funches lol, my computer does not have hebrew font, so it doesn't copy/paste nor write hebrew. I'm pretty sure those keyboard "exist" (no pun intended)....so ..er...why don't you have one? Matters none anyways, again a name doesn't change just because it's said in a different language. then Baal is God |
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that's because you're typing on Satan's Keyboard Very mature Funches. think about it...you are willing to give your immortal soul over to some entity that you lack the capacity to type their original name spoken to Moses and Mary on your keyboard ...how is that in the glory of your God and savior? hence Satan's keyboard |
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Jehovah. Again, just because a name is translated into a different language, doesn't change the name, alter it, or make it any other name then it is. It is still the same name. sorry Cowboy...Jehovah is not the Original name(s)spoken to Moses and you know this.... different languages was a punishment due to The Tower of Babel Incident it phenomenal how you avoid speaking the original name ... so...er... what do you say we find out why |
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And I already gave you the name of God, the original name. My computer does not have Hebrews font, that's because you're typing on Satan's Keyboard therefore I can not copy/paste nor actually type out God's name in Hebrew. wow..you google cut and paste Hebrew from Wikipedia and other various Satan websites..but yet failed to do the same for the Original Name God spoken to Moses and to Mary Cowboy..quit jerking around and place the names ..don't let The Tower of Babel win |
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