Before the ceremony started. And taken by others not themselves, making a gofey face.

Reading your other posts it doesn't matter what I tell you how I think my president should have acted. So I won't waste my time.

If you look at the railing in the foreground and how blurry it is you can tell the pic was taken from a distance with a zoom lense.

Where and when was this taken?

I would think if others leaders did the same thing it would be reported. Like you said there were lots of pictures taken.
I would want the leader of my country to act like a professional.

Were there any other world leaders or heads of state doing the same?
Or were they being professional like leaders of a country should be?

The Vice President is also President of the United States Senate. In that capacity, he/she is allowed to vote in the Senate when necessary to break a tie. While Senate customs have created supermajority rules that have diminished this Constitutional power, the Vice President still retains the ability to influence legislation.
As for the Hamas and Bush Doctrine you should do some research as to what was asked of her and what her response was instead of reading what liberal biased media said her answers were.

Snows on the ground. I think it's in the Packers best interest to sit Rodgers the rest of the season. And happy holidays to you too.

This is off topic but I seem to remember liberals slamming Sarah Palin for having notes on her hand during one of her speeches.

The guy is a violent schizophrenic according to his own words.
How did he make it through the screening of our secret service?
EPIC FAIL

And that has what to to with the OP?

That's how it seems. It's better to be popular then be someone who has saved millions

A sterling example of the maxim, no good deed goes unpunished.

Former President George W. Bush was booed when he appeared on the video monitor at today’s memorial for Nelson Mandela in Johannesburg, South Africa, according to the White House pool report, which cited local press outlets.

Meanwhile, when the images President Obama and Michelle popped up, there was a 30-second “deafening roar,” the pooler wrote.

How sad. Bush has done an far greater amount for South Africa than Obama. But Obama is much better at crafting his public image and saying the right things.

Bush personally saved the lives of millions of South Africans with his President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, or PEPFAR, ensuring AIDS drugs are available to South Africa’s impoverished masses.

From a Washington Post piece describing how Bush’s achievements were haunting Obama’s June trip to South Africa:


In South Africa, the success ( of PEPFAR) was extraordinary. AIDS killed roughly 2.3 million in South Africa — once one of the worst-affected countries in the world — and orphaned about a million children there, according to the United Nations. Today, rates of infection have fallen to 30 percent, and nearly 2 million people are on antiretroviral drugs.

Meanwhile, Obama has cut PEPFAR funding and generally been his customary inattentive self. From the same Post piece:


AIDS advocates on Sunday said that Obama administration budget cuts that have slashed hundreds of millions of dollars from PEPFAR threaten to turn back years of progress in the fight against the AIDS epidemic. Last year, the administration unveiled a budget that reduces AIDS funding globally by roughly $214 million, the first time an American president has reduced the U.S. commitment to fighting the epidemic since it broke out in the 1980s during the Reagan administration.

“Knowing that Africa has many challenges, with fighting AIDS being one of the biggest challenges, we were really expecting President Obama to continue where President Bush had left off,” said Hilary Thulare, country director of the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, a Los Angeles-based nonprofit group that works in 26 countries providing medical care to people with AIDS. “But it’s been a disappointment. Obama is retreating on AIDS and, by this, retreating on Africa.”

Thulare said she wished Obama was as inspired by Mandela when it came to fighting AIDS.

I’m sure those desperately in need of AIDS drugs in South Africa would be happy to hear that Mandela’s saga “woke me up to my responsibilities to others and to myself,” as Obama said today.

Meanwhile, Obama today delivered his speech, shared some stirring words, accepted his applause, and went home. I imagine most of those awestruck by Obama and contemptuous of his predecessor are HIV-negative.

Bush is still heavily involved in Africa, turning his focus last year to cervical and breast cancer and traveling repeatedly to the continent.

I assume he knows that even as he was booed in Johannesburg, God was cheering, and millions of South Africans who would be dead are going about their lives.


http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2013/12/10/bush-booed-mandela-memorial/


I don't know how to take this in.
Makes me wonder what kind of information is given on the news in South Arica

Let's see. The White House puts out a story in 2011 saying Obama never had contact with his uncle because they looked in his book and it didn't say anything about them ever meeting.
Now it comes ou in the trial if Obama's uncle that Obama stayed with him for several weeks and they saw each other every few months after up until about 20 years ago.


My question is why the White House didn't just ask the man living in the White House if he ever meet his uncle?
And with all the media focus at the time you can't tell me Obama didn't hear anything about the story that he never meet his uncle.

If you ask me it wasn't a good move politically to report the truth that Obama had in fact not only meet his uncle but lived with him. So the White House ran with that story until Obama's uncle under oath told the truth, now the White House is sidestepping to correct what was previously stated.

With me then it also raises the question what else the White House has stated or not stated that isn't the truth.

I did no such thing.
Is there not a fine line between hazing and right of passage? I compaired blood wings to a right of passage not hazing. Some would call it hazing. I guess it's all everyone's own perspective. You are the one who brought child birth into the conversation. Which I dont think belongs in the coversation because it's not others doing it to you. I said what I did because you said one death is to many.
The title of the OP is hazing? Consentual bullying?
Was it not?

I used an example of hazing I lived through that was stopped because a few complained about it.
Now I called it a right of passage, a time honored tradition.
A couple of you read to much into it. Made it into a dumb macho thing.
It's not only men doing it.

Yes I will agree some take it to far and there are deaths, but those going into it know the risks and can stop any time they want.

I just don't like that because of a few that take things to the extreme
It has to ruin it for those who want to go through the and carry on traditions.
Wether it's sports a college frat or sorority or blood wings or what have you.

I'm sorry if I came across as having a "macho mentality" that wasn't my intent. I was using an example of my own experience.

How do you feel about college sororities hazing?

And aren't there any cases of women dying or having permanent health problems due to child birth? Should we make child birth against the law then?

First of all it's not "some dumb thing guys would do" I had 2 Army females and a female Marine who were in my class.


Second I'm not assuming anything. I think I'm qualified on the subject having been through it.

Third maybe it is "like some prehistoric tribal ritual"
but there are those of us who are honored to have been a part of that prehistoric tribal ritual.

What I'm not understanding is those who feel the need to degrade those of us who did it.
Is that not a form of bulling itself?

I was referring more to the referring hazing as consentual bullying.
I don't see it as bullying. I see it as what I stated above Tradition, a right of passage.
As to the hazing deaths. Should we then stop HS football because some kids have died in practices.

Why?
Then again if you haven't been through it I wouldn't expect you to understand.

It was a time honored tradition.
To me it gave me more of a sense of accomplishment.

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