Community > Posts By > Jeanniebean
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cool, cultural perception
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Yes americans are obese, spoiled, often ignore their children, believe strongly in entitlements after all 47 million do nothing and live off the government. We spend more on dog food than most countries foreign budgets.. complain when gas goes up forgetting that profits are the highest ever for the gas companies as we line their pockets. the price of a new car went up 5000, and now we have 84 month financing so ignorant people can pay for 7 years on a depreciating asset.. So feeding our dogs is wrong? (At least we don't eat them.) Americans are obese because of the horrible crap the food industry pushes on us to eat. Sugar, flour, processed and junk foods with crap in them, artificial sweeteners that will kill you or make you ill, genetically modified food organisms. Chickens and cows that are fed poisons and chemicals.. eeeek. Are you sure we don't eat dogs? ![]() If you eat at Mac Donald's, well, I guess we can't be sure of anything if we eat processed foods, hotdogs, baloney, etc. Soilent green? |
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Topic:
cool, cultural perception
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Yes americans are obese, spoiled, often ignore their children, believe strongly in entitlements after all 47 million do nothing and live off the government. We spend more on dog food than most countries foreign budgets.. complain when gas goes up forgetting that profits are the highest ever for the gas companies as we line their pockets. the price of a new car went up 5000, and now we have 84 month financing so ignorant people can pay for 7 years on a depreciating asset.. So feeding our dogs is wrong? (At least we don't eat them.) Americans are obese because of the horrible crap the food industry pushes on us to eat. Sugar, flour, processed and junk foods with crap in them, artificial sweeteners that will kill you or make you ill, genetically modified food organisms. Chickens and cows that are fed poisons and chemicals.. eeeek. |
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My camera has a photographic memory.
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Not a damn thing.
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The only thing that makes any sense to me when I think about mental illness is the timing. Falling in love is a madness in itself, but if you have this at the wrong time, without one who is responding, there is a disorder present. Being hyped upped, being in a dopamine dense state, is fine if it corresponds with natural events, like seeing a nice friend or getting good news, or whatever is a stimulus leading to pleasure in the future. So I think that most of it is just too little development in relevant cortexes. It's when time plays tricks on us. I don't think falling in love is mental illness, but it is more like hypnotism, and its temporary. Infatuation is temporary. Same thing. I wonder about mental illness too and what it means. There are schizophrenics, psychopaths, psychotics, and plain old dysfunctional screwed up thinking, etc. It could be physical, chemical etc. People who hear voices in their heads telling them to do bad things, sounds like schizophrenic behavior, but if there are such things as demon possession, mind control, who knows. I have known people who hear voices (not their own voices) in their head and have all of their lives. Some tend to think everyone else probably does too and its normal. |
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the chicken or the egg? I think we are all born with a blank slate and our experiences shape us,, I believe that our experience, coupled by how we choose to react can cause an alteration in us physically I think 'science' and medicine commonly get it backwards, assuming the physical deviance they see is causing the behavior, instead of vice verse,, Speak for yourself. I was born with more than a blank slate. Do you have any memories of your birth? I do. ![]() |
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Oh I don't know, it doesn't seem so bad. =) Christ cussed out pharisees and threw over tables in a rage after all. =p I will say our friend's final line here does smack of intellectual exhaustion/desperation in what appears to be a lost debate. Certainly not Christlike there, since Christ seemed to have had an endless talent for sound argument. I didn't say Christlike, I said unchristian like... Isn't our continued attempts to be Christlike the crux of Christianity? The core of what you're all about? (being mormon, I honestly could't say. Our respective cultures have long been estranged) If being Christian-like means something else like adopting the habits of the mainstreamists then I certainly don't want to be that. Besides, I like swearing. It doeth my soul good like a medicine. xD To answer your first question, I truly don't know Mark...Christlike, to me, means living the commandments…I think of unchristian like behavior as the behavior of one who believes or thinks he believes, but does not live accordingly either knowingly or unknowingly...Just my take on the whole religious mess.... Heyyy, that's exactly what we believe! =) In our faith it doesn't particularly matter, from a certain point of view, what your faith is if you are true to yourself and what you are convinced is the right thing to do. It doesn't seem logical to me that a perfectly just being would condemn everyone for failing to live according to one set of standards they've known nothing of. So I believe you're spot on. And you are Mormon? It sounds similar to Judaism. 'Tis, although we've also had our fair share of marriages to catholic ideals and others. Strangely, I am not very surprised by that information. |
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OK this my last post on this. If you ar right and I am wrong, then I Have lost nothing. Now let's reverse that and ask what have you lost? Asking that question is unchristianlike behavior....Something many Christians overlook... Oh I don't know, it doesn't seem so bad. =) Christ cussed out pharisees and threw over tables in a rage after all. =p I will say our friend's final line here does smack of intellectual exhaustion/desperation in what appears to be a lost debate. Certainly not Christlike there, since Christ seemed to have had an endless talent for sound argument. I didn't say Christlike, I said unchristian like... Isn't our continued attempts to be Christlike the crux of Christianity? The core of what you're all about? (being mormon, I honestly could't say. Our respective cultures have long been estranged) If being Christian-like means something else like adopting the habits of the mainstreamists then I certainly don't want to be that. Besides, I like swearing. It doeth my soul good like a medicine. xD To answer your first question, I truly don't know Mark...Christlike, to me, means living the commandments…I think of unchristian like behavior as the behavior of one who believes or thinks he believes, but does not live accordingly either knowingly or unknowingly...Just my take on the whole religious mess.... Heyyy, that's exactly what we believe! =) In our faith it doesn't particularly matter, from a certain point of view, what your faith is if you are true to yourself and what you are convinced is the right thing to do. It doesn't seem logical to me that a perfectly just being would condemn everyone for failing to live according to one set of standards they've known nothing of. So I believe you're spot on. And you are Mormon? It sounds similar to Judaism. |
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I think we can all logically agree that the past does not exist, except as memory, and the future is just a bunch of probabilities. A "prophesy" is someone's prediction or envisioned future probability. There is no guarantee that any prophesy or prediction will happen.
The only place you can do anything, think anything, be anything is in this present moment. The present moment (NOW) is all that exists. So why not talk about NOW instead of 2000 year old stories? What is salvation? Definition: sal�va�tion noun THEOLOGY 1. deliverance from sin and its consequences, believed by Christians to be brought about by faith in Christ. The term Christ is a title, equivalent of the Old Testament term messiah and means anointed one. The anointed one delivers the elect from their sin. The Christ has three offices: Prophet, Priest, and King. As Prophet He is the mouthpiece of God (Matt. 5:27-28) and represents God to man. As Priest He represents man to God and restores fellowship between them by offering Himself as the sacrifice that removed the sin of those saved. What is sin: 1. an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law. synonyms: immoral act, wrong, wrongdoing, act of evil/wickedness, transgression, crime, offense, misdeed, misdemeanor; What is faith?noun": 1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something. "this restores one's faith in politicians" synonyms:trust, belief, confidence, conviction; More antonyms: mistrust 2. strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof. What is messiah? mes�si�ah -noun 1. the promised deliverer of the Jewish nation prophesied in the Hebrew Bible. 2. a leader or savior of a particular group or cause. So simplified by these definitions, without worrying about what name you want to call the messiah or savior, I come to a conclusion that I have a question about. Why would you believe that a blood sacrifice removes sin and What is the logic in that? Before the Christ sacrifice, pagans killed animals. Some still do. What does that represent? Food for the beast? Who is the beast? Then there are mythical stories of dragons to whom virgins were sacrificed. What symbolic meaning does that have? In ancient mid evil times, what kind of monster god or devil required a blood sacrifice to forgive the 'sins' of the people? Where did that symbolic myth come from? Or was it real? Were human and animal sacrifices given to some monster god or did the people just imagine there was a god who required blood sacrifice? |
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Bean. I know what is being talked about. I'm just having fun basically nit picking to take the conversation in new directions. That's why I pretty much switched sides to argue the opposite of what I was arguing before. I also made Isaac define more his stance on legislating morality. I'm very good at what I do and just wish I could get paid for it. hahaha So you think your are good at this? ![]() ![]() (Um, no you're not.) Going off track and off topic is not "good" especially when you get caught doing it and someone has to bring you back on topic. Its just an attempt to be distracting and a waste of time. |
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![]() ![]() I like how you compared having sex for money with cleaning a bathroom that was flooded and full of feces for money. |
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If you are right and I am wrong, then I Have lost nothing. Now let's reverse that and ask what have you lost?
Your question above is a subtle manipulation because it is suggestive of the penalty that the church/Bible has set up for those who do not believe their particular dogma. ("If you don't believe... bad things will happen.) This promise (of eternal agony in hell or death) derives its power from fear. Fear is the opposite of love so it is contrary to the true teachings of Jesus therefore I believe it is not true. Choosing Christianity just because you are afraid of the consequences for not choosing it is letting yourself be manipulated by fear. That is one of the many reasons I am not worried about being 'wrong.' |
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Oh lets not start with the blame game and accuse men of exploitation of poor defenseless women. Sure it happens, but isaac_dede and me are talking about two consenting adults.
And issy, we are not talking about kidnapping, and the child sex trade. That is not "prostitution" with consenting adults. Of course if women were able to make as much money as men all the time, there would not be so much prostitution. Women have something men want and some are willing to pay for it. One way or another they do pay for it. Men and women are not on equal footing and they never will be. Women as a general rule don't get the highest paying jobs either in sports or industry. Things have changed a little but even recently, women have had to fight for equal pay, their own credit ratings, the right to vote etc. Women have slept their way into their jobs, or been sexually harassed by their bosses. Prostitution should not be illegal or legalized. The government should stay out of that business and let two consenting adults do what they chose to do. |
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isaac_dede thanks for clarifying that.
Consenting adults. What does the government care if money exchanges hands except that they are pissed because they didn't get their share. They are more concerned about collecting taxes than morality. The government itself isn't moral anyway. Its all about money. |
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Whores are dirty lowlifes That is very judgmental and disrespectful. I figured if I ignored this comment he would go away lol. He's a "nice" guy he says. Not. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 11/24/13 07:10 PM
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Whores are dirty lowlifes That is very judgmental and disrespectful. Your profile claims that you are a nice guy. Yeh right. ![]() |
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What is a casual American? I've never heard that expression.
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No changed my mind, Enough said by everyone else! keeping my 2cents for later when its worth it!! I'll give your four cents. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 11/24/13 03:02 PM
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Sex for money.... well lets just call it a gift exchange.
You give the girl a gift of money, and in gratitude she gives you the gift of sex. Or a girl has sex with you and in gratitude you give her the gift of money. In this case, you can't really call it selling or buying as each act is a gift and either party can choose whether or not to give the gift. That is closer to dating. ![]() |
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Msharmony, you never got why consenting adult sex was okay? How about freedom? Free will? etc. I don't think all consenting adult sex is ok because of my personal values and standards but what I said was that , in the sake of consistency, IF the popular value system is that 'consenting adult' sex is ok I never understood why it was suddenly not ok due to money exchanging hands if we are saying the only two criteria should be that those involved are all adult and all consenting,, we are kind of hypocritical to then stigmatize the consenting man who pays a consenting woman ,,,it was a question of the inconsistency in the popular values and the continuing stigmatization of the sex industry gottcha. I agree. |
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