Please please leave a link to your articles, so we know where they come from. I appreciate the article and I don't particularly trust the whole mammogram push I'd like to know where you get your information.

Could you be more specific? What laws? who's morality?

I'm afraid I don't know what you are talking about.. Politicians really don't have to go very far out of their way to pit us against each other. We do that on our own.

Isn't it always the way..

I can't see them making the bible any more crazy than it already is, but what worries me is their idea to use it as a text book in public schools. If I were a parent I'd be livid.

I don't understand why some folks are so freaked out by anything liberal. And especially the religious nut cases? Son of Schafly, I should have known. Phyllis Schlafly was a speaker at the recent Values Voter Summit along with what looked like half or the republican leadership.

He doesn't want to edit the bible? Then what do you call changing words in it? I guess the bible isn't scary enough in it's current translation.

You change your politics to suite the bible? That was a joke right, Quite? Or no? I have to admit to having a good deal of paranoia when it comes to what the religious right is up to. Thankfully I probably will not be alive when the next few generations have been under the influence of this new translation. Though it might be slightly amusing to watch people, each with their version of the bible argue with eachother over who's version is correct.

How many dang times can people translate something that was hearsay to begin with, just amazes me that people think the bible is the word of a God we have never seen or heard from.

I never really cared what people believed, back when religion wasn't something you beat people over the head with or hell maybe I just was lucky to have never come in direct contact with fundementalists. Now it just gets crazier and crazier and more in your face every day. I can't even believe how far the religious right has come in their insanity of the past 30 years, and how much politics is involved, while I was busy just living my life. But this to me is very dangerous.

With people behind the Koran also passing out manipulated versions of the Koran, and now the christian conservatives wanting to manipulate the Bible to suite their own agenda, I fear for those that will deal with the results of this manipulation long after I am gone.

In a way it's good that people are shining a light on this, but people already easily manipulated by religion are far more numerous than people willing to question authority. Or at least that is they way it seems in the media...

Why aren't more people worried about this sort of thing? I mean this isn't a conspiracy, it's actually happening and isn't being hidden.

What really ticks me off is when these big organizations do wrong, it's always those that have nothing to do with it, but rely on them, that get the shaft.

What ticks me off further is when politicians use an organization like Acorn for their own agenda. Not sure which pisses me off worse.

With the last campaign it was hoped that Acorn would prevent Obama from becoming president. For that I am glad it failed to do that very thing, because it was an obvious sleazy political BS move. But that fact that those same politicians will use it to hopefully distort or destroy Obama is still despicable.

I'm not sure what you are referring to Willing, I just despise manipulators no matter who they are.

Getting paid to sell stuff to himself? What are you referring to?

I guess seperation of church and state, though ignored by the RIGHT, just isn't good enough. We need to fully indoctrinate the future generations.

Conservatives have a project to translate the Bible more inline with conservative views. WOW, and they want this as a public school text book. Man, these folks have some nerve. I heard this on cable news this morning, but thought I would do a quick google on it.

http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project

If the zillions of translations don't work for you and don't bring enough converts to control and manipulate, just change it again.

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Liberal bias has become the single biggest distortion in modern Bible translations. There are three sources of errors in conveying biblical meaning:

lack of precision in the original language, such as terms underdeveloped to convey new concepts introduced by Christ
lack of precision in modern language
translation bias in converting the original language to the modern one.

Of these three sources of errors, the last introduces the largest error, and the biggest component of that error is liberal bias. Large reductions in this error can be attained simply by retranslating the KJV into modern English.[1]

As of 2009, there is no fully conservative translation of the Bible which satisfies the following ten guidelines:[2]

Framework against Liberal Bias: providing a strong framework that enables a thought-for-thought translation without corruption by liberal bias

Not Emasculated: avoiding unisex, "gender inclusive" language, and other modern emasculation of Christianity

Not Dumbed Down: not dumbing down the reading level, or diluting the intellectual force and logic of Christianity; the NIV is written at only the 7th grade level[3]

Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms: using powerful new conservative terms as they develop;[4] defective translations use the word "comrade" three times as often as "volunteer"; similarly, updating words which have a change in meaning, such as "word", "peace", and "miracle".

Combat Harmful Addiction: combating addiction by using modern terms for it, such as "gamble" rather than "cast lots";[5] using modern political terms, such as "register" rather than "enroll" for the census

Accept the Logic of Hell: applying logic with its full force and effect, as in not denying or downplaying the very real existence of Hell or the Devil.

Express Free Market Parables; explaining the numerous economic parables with their full free-market meaning

Exclude Later-Inserted Liberal Passages: excluding the later-inserted liberal passages that are not authentic, such as the adulteress story

Credit Open-Mindedness of Disciples: crediting open-mindedness, often found in youngsters like the eyewitnesses Mark and John, the authors of two of the Gospels

Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness: preferring conciseness to the liberal style of high word-to-substance ratio; avoid compound negatives and unnecessary ambiguities; prefer concise, consistent use of the word "Lord" rather than "Jehovah" or "Yahweh" or "Lord God."

Thus, a project has begun among members of Conservapedia to translate the Bible in accordance with these principles. The translated Bible can be found here.

Benefits include:

mastery of the Bible, which is priceless
mastery of the English language, which is valuable
thorough understanding of the differences in Bible translations, particularly the historically important King James Version
benefiting from activity that no public school would ever allow; a Conservative Bible could become a text for public school courses
liberals will oppose this effort, but they will have to read the Bible to criticize this, and that will open their minds
How long would this project take? There are about 8000 verses in the New Testament. At a careful rate of translating about four verses an hour, it would take one person 2000 hours, or about one year working full time on the project.

The rest here:

http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project

Dang not this again. Always check the facts about emails, other wise you just help spread false information. I've gotten at least 3 of these over the past year or so, just google the topic and you'll find out pretty quickly what is bs and what is'nt. Pranksters depend on internet newbies to believe what they read in emails.

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http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2005/04/dnc.shtm

The Truth about Cell Phones and the National Do Not Call Registry
If you’ve received an e-mail telling you that your cell phone is about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls as a result of a new cell phone number database, rest assured that this is not the case. Telemarketing to cell phone numbers has always been illegal in most cases and will continue to be so. In response to recent e-mail campaigns urging consumers to place their cell phone numbers on the National Do Not Call Registry, the Federal Trade Commission and Federal Communications Commission issue this advisory to give consumers the facts.

One e-mail making the rounds says:

“JUST A REMINDER...In a few weeks, cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sale calls. YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS... To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888/382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time. It blocks your number for five (5) years. PASS THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS...”

Another version claims:

“The Federal Trade Commission has set up a "do not call" list. It is called a cell phone registry. To be included on the "do not call" list, you must call from the number you wish to register.”

Here’s what you need to know about the National Do Not Call Registry program:

FCC regulations prohibit telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phone numbers. Automated dialers are standard in the industry, so most telemarketers are barred from calling consumers on their cell phones without their consent.


The federal government does not maintain a national cell phone registry. Personal cell phone users have always been able to add their numbers to the National Do Not Call Registry — the same Registry consumers use to register their land lines — either online at www.donotcall.gov or by calling toll-free 1-888-382-1222 from the telephone number they wish to register. Registrations become effective within 31 days of signing up and are active for five years. There is no cut-off date or deadline for registrations.


Business-to-business calls are not covered under the Registry.
For More Information
To learn more about the National Do Not Call Registry and the rules that enforce it, visit the FTC at www.ftc.gov or the FCC at www.fcc.gov. For more information about a planned “wireless 411” directory, visit http://www.iq411.com/wireless411/index.shtml.

The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop, and avoid them. To file a complaint in English or Spanish (bilingual counselors are available to take complaints), or to get free information on any of 150 consumer topics, call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357), or use the complaint form at www.ftc.gov. The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft, and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad.

I believe you missed his point entirely. If you are going to go after fraud and waste, you don't go after just Acorn and leave those that steal billions more on a 'yearly' basis, turning a blind eye to those that do far worse and steal 'far more money' because they are seen as necessary.

And you don't cut off funding until Acorn has been proven negligent in a court of law. The Acorn thing is all political at this point and we all know why. And morally you don't cut off people dependent on their service because some politicians want to wear Acorn as an badge.

It amuses me that some folk scream about the law but would over look the law to bring down an organization they despise for their own agenda.

Well I can understand that, but there has to be an answer, I just don't see anyone doing much about it, even back in the 70's when they could have had a better handle on it. It's been allowed to fester to the point that the gangs have all the power. Where are the incentives like the army uses with people in war zones. I dont' know the answer that is for sure.

Gangs should have been adressed decades ago, if cops are afraid to go into those areas, they should find people that aren't afraid and do something about them. There are individuals in those areas that are trying to get kids turned away from gangs, but they can't accomplish that alone. If the gangs know that the people in the area and the cops are afraid of them that just gives them more power.

No secret here, or wise predictions here either, the same people have piled on the same poster for the same reason before. It's not hard to see how certain people are reacted to repeatedly by the same people.

She has never ever suggested what you accused her of. Ever. Though I have not always agreed some topics were racist where she did, she never once said only whites are capable of racism. And your sarcasm brought on the sarcasm of yet another poster who said: 'She doesn't have a point, just mindless banter!' also piling on the same poster. We do notice more than just the topic around here.

But hey, that's what this forum has become, and why I stay clear a lot these days.

LOL you are really cracking me up now, Rose.

''I know who did and I know why it was made''

No biggie, I just don't like seeing some get piled on for something she never said or suggested.

I read the whole thread, Rose..

Pssst, thought you agreed both sides are pretty good at the same thing, Rose? Have a change of heart tonight?

You really aught to have a good look at what conservatives want these days. If individuals want to control one part of your lives, individual conservatives want control of the other.. again, generalizations.

I personally like change and am not afraid of it, though there are some changes I would not agree with, but that doesn't mean I will get my way either. I accept that.

Individuals on both sides can be accused of the very same thing.

Quit generalizing, I'm a liberal and I don't give a crap what you drive, what you eat, what you read or watch..