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If God created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. Rebuttal? your own question is a contradiction per se. Ergo, it does mot deserve an answer. You got it! He just likes to start a weird meaningless thread an sit back and watch. JB C'mon Keith, do you really buy what you are selling? not even a kinder garden child would buy such a thing. |
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If God created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. Rebuttal? your own question is a contradiction per se. Ergo, it does mot deserve an answer. You got it! He just likes to start a weird meaningless thread an sit back and watch. JB C'mon Keith, do you really buy what you are selling? |
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maybe in other dimensions
time and space are irrelevant after all with space the atoms that make up every thing are neutrons and protons that are orbital (thus space is in them) now if you have multiple orbiting nuclei's (what the orbiting neutrons and protons form) of different substances then it is feasible that to or more things good occupy the same space thus making space irrelevant and if space is irrelevant how can you measure time is not time measured by how long it takes to get from point (a) to point (b) thus needing space to be relevant just a thought but hey what do i know |
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If God created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. Rebuttal? your own question is a contradiction per se. Ergo, it does mot deserve an answer. You got it! He just likes to start a weird meaningless thread an sit back and watch. JB C'mon Keith, do you really buy what you are selling? not even a kinder garden child would buy such a thing. |
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If God created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. Rebuttal? your own question is a contradiction per se. Ergo, it does mot deserve an answer. You got it! He just likes to start a weird meaningless thread an sit back and watch. JB C'mon Keith, do you really buy what you are selling? Sorry but you have it bass ackward.  I first committed myself.  
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Looking back through your posts, how many times have you been down this same road? Ask a bible scholar. Methinks you are looking for battles not answers. But at any rate...... I enjoy reading your posts.
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If God created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. Rebuttal? your own question is a contradiction per se. Ergo, it does mot deserve an answer. You got it! He just likes to start a weird meaningless thread an sit back and watch. JB No, I've taken a pole on this, and it is weird and meaningless to approximately 600 people. Mostly meaningless. The results are still coming in.
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Edited by
Peccy
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Wed 04/16/08 08:33 PM
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double post
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If God created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. Rebuttal? your own question is a contradiction per se. Ergo, it does mot deserve an answer. You got it! He just likes to start a weird meaningless thread an sit back and watch. JB No, I've taken a pole on this, and it is weird and meaningless to approximately 600 people. Mostly meaningless. The results are still coming in.
Whew!  I have done many things in my day but taking a pole was not one of them. 
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double post It was hard to pass on that one eh? No pun intended.
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The flaw in man is we have learned and lived to know there is always a beginning and an ending. That is why we are man, because our minds can not understand anything past then what we know or have learned. God has always been. With him there is no beginning and ending. We has humans can not accept or understand always been. Well said!!!!!
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Wed 04/16/08 09:38 PM
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So the argument is we as humans are not smart enough to understand God? ok....that's your belief, but that does not satisfy me. I simply cannot accept that. God made a way for man to understand Him , Peccy. But it is by way of Spirit.....cause God is also Spirit...not just intellect. God did not leave us in the dark....to just always be guessing about Him. God already left us a roadmap with instructions, on how to get to Know God
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God knows everything right? He knows what he will do in the "future" (in any dimension, not necessary the time dimension). He must have known that from the very start of his own existence. That would mean God's actions are predestined. God is tied by faith, he has no free will. And if God has no free will God is not omnipotent. Peccy....Man was given a free will. Sometimes we try to bring God down to our own dimension , and therefore "limit" God... by saying for instance, that God must not have a free will. God's ways are MUCH Higher than our ways, WAAAYYYYY Higher. Peccy...If God has no beginning nor end, God would therefore have NO limitations. Yes?
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You are correct, if you believe in that. I am simply saying you think that with all his power, we could see at least one miracle? One every hundred years? I hold that he is much like the wizard.
Sorry but the whole theory has far too many cracks for me. But if you people want to believe, and it makes you feel better, then by all means. I simply asked a question, and got bashed for it being an inane one. But there is more than one way to look at it. |
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If God created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. Rebuttal? your own question is a contradiction per se. Ergo, it does mot deserve an answer. You got it! He just likes to start a weird meaningless thread an sit back and watch. JB C'mon Keith, do you really buy what you are selling? not even a kinder garden child would buy such a thing. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 04/16/08 09:32 PM
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You are correct, if you believe in that. I am simply saying you think that with all his power, we could see at least one miracle? One every hundred years? I hold that he is much like the wizard. Sorry but the whole theory has far too many cracks for me. But if you people want to believe, and it makes you feel better, then by all means. I simply asked a question, and got bashed for it being an inane one. But there is more than one way to look at it. You just don't seem very serious about it. Sort of like it is just a joke to you. You don't take the question serious at all, since you said you don't even believe in God. So I find it hard to take you serious. I didn't mean to bash you. Have your fun.
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If God created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. Rebuttal? your own question is a contradiction per se. Ergo, it does mot deserve an answer. You got it! He just likes to start a weird meaningless thread an sit back and watch. JB C'mon Keith, do you really buy what you are selling? not even a kinder garden child would buy such a thing. This kind of negativity directed towards Peccy was unneccessary . 
Let's be kind to one another.....  .
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Thu 04/17/08 12:22 AM
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You are correct, if you believe in that. I am simply saying you think that with all his power, we could see at least one miracle? One every hundred years? I hold that he is much like the wizard. Sorry but the whole theory has far too many cracks for me. But if you people want to believe, and it makes you feel better, then by all means. I simply asked a question, and got bashed for it being an inane one. But there is more than one way to look at it. Peccy.... there have been Many miracles already performed by God.....and many more are yet to come . As the former rain....so will be the latter rain.
But..man can't go just by miracles alone ..to come to God. It takes Faith to Believe. And Faith comes by hearing the Word of God. Keep seeking ,Peccy..... it will all become clear .in time.....just keep seeking...
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After I finish counting the angels dancing on the head of this pin, here, I'll answer that.
or not. God exists outside of time and space. He's so far beyond all that, it's not even funny. And he exists, at least in my book he does. I can testify to you that he is all around you and he can be found, if you'd like to look. Good luck to you and God Bless You, Peccy. I'll pray that you find Him. |
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God knows everything right? He knows what he will do in the "future" (in any dimension, not necessary the time dimension). He must have known that from the very start of his own existence. That would mean God's actions are predestined. God is tied by faith, he has no free will. And if God has no free will God is not omnipotent. This arguement is old and broken down. God knows everything that will happen, because it will happen. God's actions in crafting the universe were based upon God's free will. God's actions are dictated by God's character. This is demonstrated many times in the Bible. God rewarded Solomon, but said "Eventually you will betray me and worship other gods, but right now you are doing what I ask so I will bless you." (Obviously I'm paraphrasing) God is aware of the future but acts in the present based upon his character and the current thoughts and actions of people. God blessed Solomon for what he was doing at the time, even though Solomon would eventually no longer deserve such blessings. |
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