Topic: OK, answer the ?? honestly Spank or Not
nanafry's photo
Fri 05/30/08 08:16 AM
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. HEAD START IS FREE AND WE OFFER TONS OF HELP, CLASSES, TRAINING, INTERVENTION AND ANYTHING THAT WOULD HELP THESE PARENTS AND THE ABUSE OF TEACHERS BY 3 TO 5 YR OLDS STILL CONTINUES.

nanafry's photo
Fri 05/30/08 08:20 AM
WE AT HEAD START ARE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE FOR OUR PARENTS TO HAVE BETTER LIVES FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR CHILDREN. WE ARE REWARDED BUT HAVING PARENTS TRY TO GET US FIRED IF THEY DON'T LIKE US AND BY THEIR CHILDREN USING US AS THEIR PERSONAL WHIPPING POSTS. BESIDE THE FACT THAT MOST OF US WORK FOR A WHOLE LOT LESS THAN WE DESERVE.

adj4u's photo
Fri 05/30/08 11:44 AM
the state of the behavior of society today after 30 years of parents being blackmailed about discipline and this needs to actually be asked


dang straight if they do not listen they need to be disciplined in a manner that will get their attention

flowerforyou

MsCarmen's photo
Fri 05/30/08 12:06 PM
You can suggest to the parents all you want about reading the books and going to the class, but if they don't want to, there just not going to do it.

Just like you aren't going to get them to teach their child to respect others. If they don't care, that's how it will always be.

Here in the state of Virginia, you have a right to spank your child. But I know in alot of other states you can't, which I think is wrong (IMO) The government has taken so many rights away from parents that most of them are scared to death to do anything for fear of going to jail.

Well, all I can say is send me to jail, because I'm not going to let my child disrespect me or run all over me just because of that. And I rather take the chance of going to jail for teaching my child to respect me and others, then to just let her go and end up being a disrespectful brat.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Fri 05/30/08 02:32 PM

We had spanking, belting, no dinner....
No, I don't believe in arbitrary beatings and abuse, debasement, etc. And it breaks my heart what some children endure and die from. But there are times kids can use a spank to get their attention and a slap on the face for absolutely disrespecting. Thank God, it's been very rare and they were quick learners!!
So, now I guess I'll get hate mail, huh??

not from me.i would never use the belt but my son does get a swat now and then when he choses to ignore me.It sure is an attention getter.Spanking is legal here in NH and though I don't do it often,it is an option.

adj4u's photo
Fri 05/30/08 03:51 PM

You can suggest to the parents all you want about reading the books and going to the class, but if they don't want to, there just not going to do it.

Just like you aren't going to get them to teach their child to respect others. If they don't care, that's how it will always be.

Here in the state of Virginia, you have a right to spank your child. But I know in alot of other states you can't, which I think is wrong (IMO) The government has taken so many rights away from parents that most of them are scared to death to do anything for fear of going to jail.

Well, all I can say is send me to jail, because I'm not going to let my child disrespect me or run all over me just because of that. And I rather take the chance of going to jail for teaching my child to respect me and others, then to just let her go and end up being a disrespectful brat.



i was threatened by one of my kids once

i told them to get a change of clothes

i was taking them to children services

they said that i could not do that

my response if you dont like it here i am saving everyone the hassle and just gonna take ya and give ya to them

will make it easier on everyone no court hassles nothin

now go get yer change of clothes and that is all one change of clothes cause i supplied everything you have access to and all yer getting is one change of clothes thats it

no go get it here is a bag to put it in

and i picked up the phone

and they started crying and said dont do that and i put the phone down and never had another problem like that again

no photo
Fri 05/30/08 04:07 PM
I don't spank my kids.. that would be weird....they are bigger then me now laugh .....maybe when they were younger a well- felt lovetap on the fanny to teach them right from wrong.

tiffanyraquel's photo
Fri 05/30/08 05:12 PM
My Daddy spanked me when I was bad. Now my new " Daddy " spanks meblushing Little girls that get spanked by their fathers like to be spanked by their lovers. Remember that the next time you spank you daughter.devil

Ohiotallguy's photo
Fri 05/30/08 05:37 PM
Do not spank your children. Be an adult and learn how to communicate. Hitting a child is a sign of ignorance and weakness.

MsCarmen's photo
Fri 05/30/08 06:07 PM

Do not spank your children. Be an adult and learn how to communicate. Hitting a child is a sign of ignorance and weakness.


I tell you what, when you have kids of your own, then come back and tell me how to raise my child. Until then, I'll raise her my way and if a swat on the butt is what is needed to "communicate" then that is exactly what I'll do!!!


Ohiotallguy's photo
Fri 05/30/08 07:24 PM


Do not spank your children. Be an adult and learn how to communicate. Hitting a child is a sign of ignorance and weakness.


I tell you what, when you have kids of your own, then come back and tell me how to raise my child. Until then, I'll raise her my way and if a swat on the butt is what is needed to "communicate" then that is exactly what I'll do!!!




Clearly you are ignorant and weak.
Why so defensive?
Feeling a little guilty about hitting a poor defenseless child?
Grow up and get a little education.

buttons's photo
Fri 05/30/08 07:26 PM

I have two kids, boy 27 and a girl 22, they grew up knowing if they did "BAD" they would get there butt swatted (once)and hard, the boy has had it twice and the girl never got it,
If parents would stat young and "teach" I believe spanking would not be a part of growing up as hurting your kids just does'nt seem right to me...mad mad
damn hes cutelaugh laugh laugh laugh roflmao!drinker drinker bigsmile

LAMF_82's photo
Fri 05/30/08 09:45 PM
I am a firm believer in spanking, you can truly tell the children who do not get spanked... I think that you should be able to spank your child, however, spanking should be used to discipline and never, ever, should you spank your kid whil you are angry....if you need to take 10, calm down, then do it, otherwise....you may end up "abusing"...

MsCarmen's photo
Sat 05/31/08 05:58 AM



Do not spank your children. Be an adult and learn how to communicate. Hitting a child is a sign of ignorance and weakness.


I tell you what, when you have kids of your own, then come back and tell me how to raise my child. Until then, I'll raise her my way and if a swat on the butt is what is needed to "communicate" then that is exactly what I'll do!!!




Clearly you are ignorant and weak.
Why so defensive?
Feeling a little guilty about hitting a poor defenseless child?
Grow up and get a little education.


Trust me, I am educated and more then you I have experience. And if you are so much of an expert on raising kids, then why don't you tell all of us parents that you consider weak and ignorant because we spank our children how to to do the job?

Oh that's right. You don't have any children so you can't speak from experience. noway noway noway

dicimus01's photo
Sat 05/31/08 06:08 AM
Spare the rod HATE the child

dicimus01's photo
Sat 05/31/08 06:12 AM
Edited by dicimus01 on Sat 05/31/08 06:13 AM

Do not spank your children. Be an adult and learn how to communicate. Hitting a child is a sign of ignorance and weakness.


Even Dr Spock said if the advice I gave you in this book doesn't work, turn the child over your lap and use the book.

MsCarmen's photo
Sat 05/31/08 06:23 AM


Do not spank your children. Be an adult and learn how to communicate. Hitting a child is a sign of ignorance and weakness.


Even Dr Spock said if the advice I gave you in this book doesn't work, turn the child over your lap and use the book.
laugh drinker drinker

no photo
Sat 05/31/08 06:30 AM
Edited by FreshMountainAir on Sat 05/31/08 06:31 AM
I spank my children because I love them! I do believe when parenting sometimes tough love is neccessary. My parents spanked me and I deserved it! I don't like to spank my girls....but I do it when it's necessary and they are GREAT kids!!!bigsmile

no photo
Sat 05/31/08 06:53 AM
Edited by BrandSpankinNew on Sat 05/31/08 06:59 AM
courtesy of a 7yrs absent spouse, during my single parent days, I had the very sobering and chilling 'opportunity' to answer a judge on my parenting.

He had the authority to take them from me and into a shelter/foster system with a single word based on his judgement call.

Among other ridiculous charges (you'd just have to know me), the opposing side painted a picture of a physically abusive father. "Will you ever again physically discipline your children?" he asked.
I fearfully thought and prayed harder than ever before or since.

In the end I placed everything in greater hands and spoke honestly -don't think for a minute I didn't entertain just saying no.

I explained my deep appreciation of the blessing and responsibility that I was given as a father. It was my job to provide love for their spirits, food, clothing and shelter for their bodies, and guidance for their future. Doing so demands that I concientiously water and prune them as needed. Weeds are the fault of the gardener not of the grass.

Discipline is properly defined as training. For me that meant communicating. I explained that I was a teacher, helping them to understand the difference between right and wrong, correting through discussion as the primary lesson.

However, at some point correction requires learning that there are consequences to willful wrongs (is larger society any different? - no).

I dared tell this judge that I would be remiss in my duty and a failure as a parent if I didn not use every resource to raise them correctly. I dared tell him that while I would seek additional training methods I could not in good conscious say that I would never again physically correct them.

Long story short, I was allowed to continue raising them. In the midst of Disney, walmart races, fireplace roasts, glee club, footballetc laughter and pride, there were also the rare corrections. All in a days work as a parent.

I won't entertain any condemnation of my parenting, my own guilt and feelings of inadequacies to the task spurred me to creative and positive means of getting the job done. They are both now as productive and happy as any of us, carving their way through the world.

For those that believe in a spank-free method - all power to you, I just happen to believe the users manual when it says
"Foolishness is tied up in the heart of a <child>, the rod of discipline (training) will remove it far from him/her".
Please, don't run with that one, it's describing and encouraging love, not abuse.

In the end I have nothing but praise for all parents who dutifully and thoughtfully approach and stick to the job.
The toughest and most rewarding thing you will ever do.
'Nuffsaid




no photo
Sat 05/31/08 07:03 AM
sorry for the length of my reply - this is a passion point for me. I love the job!

Go out and give a child a big smile today!