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Topic: it's tough having the heart & soul of an artist
tv2enslave4life's photo
Sat 01/24/09 03:01 PM
E harmony says I am not just creative but I live thru my creativity having the heart & soul of an artist. If that's not enough try being a Capricorn born under a full moon with a definet Pices influence. This makes me a very unique very rare spirit and with my astrological numbers being exactallly the same as Jesus and the archangle michael even more so. I am sure you know that michael has never fallen and Jesus was pure unconditional love. Well I live for love and creativity and my capacity for committed to non-jugdemental communication, undestanding and forgiveness is boundless along with being able to pour out my heart and soul without question.

So why is it so hard for me believe that what my last love said? ( That 90% percent of the women out there are at heart monetary, material and out of touch with truely real unconditional love and the other 10% are true,real ladies with a loving heart,soul and spirit.) I am begining to see the truth in her words.

I would like to believe that she was wrong but we shall see.

SO LETS HAVE JUST SEE WHAT TYPE IS THE MAJORITY, lOVE OF MONEY,MATERIAL AND SELF BENIFITING OR UNCONDITIONALLY LOVING.
{ALL WE WILL HAVE TO DO IS READ THE REPLYS TO THIS POST.}

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Sat 01/24/09 03:13 PM

E harmony says I am not just creative but I live thru my creativity having the heart & soul of an artist.


They told me I'm unmatchable -- and they may very well be right.

As for creativity, I don't know if that enters into it -- I had two books published last year, have been involved in music in the past, have even done comic strips. Creativity keeps me going. It doesn't mean a thing insofar as impacting on people who might be relationship prospects, though.


So why is it so hard for me believe that what my last love said? ( That 90% percent of the women out there are at heart monetary, material and out of touch with truely real unconditional love and the other 10% are true,real ladies with a loving heart,soul and spirit.) I am begining to see the truth in her words.


I don't have any verifiable statistics -- I suspect the 90% figure is high, but that's not based on anything but observation (limited to my own personal experience) -- my own "research" indicates that most women (disclaimer -- I am only referring to the ones I have known personally in real life) are more interested in changing and manipulating a person than they are in money and materialism, per se -- but I may have dealt with a corrupted sampling.


I would like to believe that she was wrong but we shall see.


I would like to believe that, too.


SO LETS HAVE JUST SEE WHAT TYPE IS THE MAJORITY, lOVE OF MONEY,MATERIAL AND SELF BENIFITING OR UNCONDITIONALLY LOVING.
{ALL WE WILL HAVE TO DO IS READ THE REPLYS TO THIS POST.}


It should be interesting, at any rate, to see how many actually say something vs. how many parrot the tired old platitudes....


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Sat 01/24/09 03:23 PM
There are women out there who are materialistic and opportunistic, and only out to use men for what they can get out of them, then move on to the next, buttttttt ------

What about the men who do the same to the women, use them for sex and whatever else they can get out of them (if the woman has money and they take her to the cleaners financially?) and then kick them to the curb????

I would guess it breaks about even.

I do think the 90% figure is fairly high too, though, would not want to think there are THAT many users/abusers out there.

(I don't know that I can give an impartial answer though as I am a "scammer magnet" right now and the majority of the people who write me are only interested in asking me to send them money. The last dork asked me to open an offshore account for him and I could keep $5000 of the money, sounds like money laundering to me, ummm, nope, not going there.)

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Sat 01/24/09 03:25 PM
waiting over here with the beer and pretzels.. And making sure I have all the protection I can to prevent bodily harm....checking my reflexes ( ducking powers)... This is going to be good... I can't wait I might even stay up all night to read it all.. good luck

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Sat 01/24/09 03:33 PM
oh and btw.. It does appear way to often that women want the following from a guy (reading profiles in other sites)....


a great (not just good) job and make over $100,000
a harley ( bad boy issues)
a good home, toys, quad bikes etc.
a desire to do world travel.
a college education, or more
be a ( should I dare say this) a nice guy, no drama
communication, honesty etc etc

and its usually in that order go figure

Lindamgd's photo
Sat 01/24/09 03:33 PM
I am trying to pull together an answer to all of your thoughts. I found the art on your profile interesting AND creative.

I have found I can only speak for myself. I like people in general. I like experiencing the interactions as if there is a gift there for both of us. I have believed in unconditional love since I met my husband around the AA tables more than 20 years ago. I know for a fact if I treat disagreements as the beginning of a win/win dialogue, I end up being satisfied. My wish for you is to meet someone who believes in you for who you are.

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Sat 01/24/09 03:42 PM
E Harmony may work for the Doctor Phil Crowd but for the rest of us in the real world they are about as right as a left turn!

There is someone for everyone but you just got to keep looking.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 01/24/09 03:42 PM

E harmony says I am not just creative but I live thru my creativity having the heart & soul of an artist. If that's not enough try being a Capricorn born under a full moon with a definet Pices influence. This makes me a very unique very rare spirit and with my astrological numbers being exactallly the same as Jesus and the archangle michael even more so. I am sure you know that michael has never fallen and Jesus was pure unconditional love. Well I live for love and creativity and my capacity for committed to non-jugdemental communication, undestanding and forgiveness is boundless along with being able to pour out my heart and soul without question.

So why is it so hard for me believe that what my last love said? ( That 90% percent of the women out there are at heart monetary, material and out of touch with truely real unconditional love and the other 10% are true,real ladies with a loving heart,soul and spirit.) I am begining to see the truth in her words.

I would like to believe that she was wrong but we shall see.

SO LETS HAVE JUST SEE WHAT TYPE IS THE MAJORITY, lOVE OF MONEY,MATERIAL AND SELF BENIFITING OR UNCONDITIONALLY LOVING.
{ALL WE WILL HAVE TO DO IS READ THE REPLYS TO THIS POST.}




bigsmile I love myself,material and moneybigsmile

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Sat 01/24/09 03:48 PM
If you havn't noticed E Harmony is one the most costly dating sites out there with match.com and yahoo personals right behind ... and just like any and all dating sites it relies on honesty or truth in advertising... thats the key HONESTY... it is lacking with most people thats why we get bad results.. and yes we all have certain criteria and maybe should be looking at the whole person and not what he or she can do for us..

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Sat 01/24/09 03:51 PM

I would say the 90% figure is a bit high. But I would also say that a lot of women spout the "looking for Mr. Right, lifetime companion, best friend, love honor and cherish" line but if they were honest with themselves are really looking for someone to put food on their tables and put their kids through college.


A little harsh there - I am sure there are women out there looking for that --- but there are also lots of us who support ourselves and don't need a man to support us and our kids are grown.

Hope you find what you are looking for.

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Sat 01/24/09 03:57 PM

oh and btw.. It does appear way to often that women want the following from a guy (reading profiles in other sites)....


a great (not just good) job and make over $100,000
a harley ( bad boy issues)
a good home, toys, quad bikes etc.
a desire to do world travel.
a college education, or more
be a ( should I dare say this) a nice guy, no drama
communication, honesty etc etc

and its usually in that order go figure



Sorry, guess you caught me in a mood today, I usually don't post much. frustrated

Don't think it is fair to "generalize" women like that, we are not all that way.

As far as your list goes, I would start with the bottom one -- communication and honesty. I don't need him to have a home, I have my own, thank you.
I also work and support myself. He doesn't need a college education as long as he can hold a conversation and being able to hold a job would be nice, but in this so-called recession, that isn't possible for all men or women. I judge him more on how he treats me.

I am going back to work now, enjoy your beer and pretzels, have a nice afternoon.


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Sat 01/24/09 03:59 PM

oh and btw.. It does appear way to often that women want the following from a guy (reading profiles in other sites)....


a great (not just good) job and make over $100,000
a harley ( bad boy issues)
a good home, toys, quad bikes etc.
a desire to do world travel.
a college education, or more
be a ( should I dare say this) a nice guy, no drama
communication, honesty etc etc

and its usually in that order go figure




Well....

Let me put it this way,

And I am REALLY serious about this!

If I managed to succeed and get ahead to the point I feel comfortable and this means I got a minimum of 1M in the bank, my own home, and an income assured without me having to "work" like I do ever again what makes any of these women think for a moment I would even BE monogamous at that point?
Women can want what you described all day long but those are the words of gold diggers and I could NEVER take a woman with that crap in her profile seriously no matter what she said to me because it will always be a suspicion that my money made me more attractive. What do some women think, they can have OUR cake and eat it too?
Welcome to equality and the new millennium!
Sorry ladies if I am coming off like a choad but the fact is I am sick and tired of all the gold digging I keep coming across.
I am so sick of "prince charming" this and 'Looking for my King' that. It implies "Hi, I'm shallow and am looking for a rich guy that has a lot of money!"
Us Heros are overlooked because we don't have shiny armor.

papersmile's photo
Sat 01/24/09 04:01 PM

oh and btw.. It does appear way to often that women want the following from a guy (reading profiles in other sites)....


a great (not just good) job and make over $100,000
a harley ( bad boy issues)
a good home, toys, quad bikes etc.
a desire to do world travel.
a college education, or more
be a ( should I dare say this) a nice guy, no drama
communication, honesty etc etc

and its usually in that order go figure


of course i want the best possible mate and i don't think it's a bad thing to want (and get) all that in a man.

do you honestly think that women want someone who is: unemployed, a dreaded 'nice guy', of no fixed address, a stay-at-home boring person, a high school dropout, an asshole, and a liar who doesn't like to talk?

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Sat 01/24/09 04:12 PM


oh and btw.. It does appear way to often that women want the following from a guy (reading profiles in other sites)....


a great (not just good) job and make over $100,000
a harley ( bad boy issues)
a good home, toys, quad bikes etc.
a desire to do world travel.
a college education, or more
be a ( should I dare say this) a nice guy, no drama
communication, honesty etc etc

and its usually in that order go figure


of course i want the best possible mate and i don't think it's a bad thing to want (and get) all that in a man.

do you honestly think that women want someone who is: unemployed, a dreaded 'nice guy', of no fixed address, a stay-at-home boring person, a high school dropout, an asshole, and a liar who doesn't like to talk?
Nothing wrong with that papersmile but way to often these are the real things they want and even say so.. Not everyone can fit those criteria.. I would think that if he hada good source of income had a decent education, and good communication skills and a loving heart. That would be a good start..Its hard to "measure " up to those other expectations.

tv2enslave4life's photo
Sat 01/24/09 11:43 PM
Now here it is, I have a guaranteed monthley income which keeps food in my mouth and a roof over my head with just tiny wee bit extra left. But when you are creative to the soul and give of yourself and to others god definitley gives unto you supplying all might need when love is put first.

I have all the ammenities that other people want in there homes, differance is mine may not be brand new but it does exactlly what it is supposed to. I help other people by doing little things for them like being there, giving them repair knowledge hands on and/or even research& location assistance in putting toghether the same ammenities everyone else enjoys. So in return they look out for useful items that a creative jack & jill of all arts & trades can use to skilfully make something that is just as good if not better than the latest & greatest.

I can surely say that god has taken care of my needs. If something gets stolen or eventually breaks down it is not long before he provides a replacement far better than the last. I just traded out a 1989 zenith tv works perfect for a 2006 20in stereo flat screen all I had 2 do was
fix the coax connection on the elec board. That is how 80% of the things god provides come but there is that other 20%. My last love had beautiful clothing, jewelry and everything else A real lady might want. It came on gods time not by the materialistic value system society uses as bases for attraction to one another.

Here is an example most people pour tons of money into a home electronics/entertainment system and have to have the latest thing just because the neighbor does. Not me but having patients is its reward like having a computer that does it all with full version software that needs no addons like the new stuff and a home entertainment system not big screen but excellent
in its performance and audio/video quality which will put even a multi-thousand dollar super high end custom home ratteling auto sound system to shame, cleaner, louder, one has to experiance & can't possibly be decribed.

The possibilities are endless to what one can do with a little effort, creative knowledge & patients, still having all the things others have but without become a slave to a the monetary & material existance as long as they always put love first.

What is the better life one of endless time spent
away from the ones we love for just the latest,things & bling now or one being able to have lots of time with the loved ones in your life, still having those ammenities we all enjoy as god said { he will provide every need for those that put love first and never let monetary/ material want or wealth come before that.

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Sat 01/24/09 11:46 PM
e harmony matched me with a bunch of indian guys. that was it.

yay for tht free weekend because i'm not about to pay for that crap.

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Sun 01/25/09 12:08 AM

E harmony says I am not just creative but I live thru my creativity having the heart & soul of an artist. If that's not enough try being a Capricorn born under a full moon with a definet Pices influence. This makes me a very unique very rare spirit and with my astrological numbers being exactallly the same as Jesus and the archangle michael even more so. I am sure you know that michael has never fallen and Jesus was pure unconditional love. Well I live for love and creativity and my capacity for committed to non-jugdemental communication, undestanding and forgiveness is boundless along with being able to pour out my heart and soul without question.

So why is it so hard for me believe that what my last love said? ( That 90% percent of the women out there are at heart monetary, material and out of touch with truely real unconditional love and the other 10% are true,real ladies with a loving heart,soul and spirit.) I am begining to see the truth in her words.

I would like to believe that she was wrong but we shall see.

SO LETS HAVE JUST SEE WHAT TYPE IS THE MAJORITY, lOVE OF MONEY,MATERIAL AND SELF BENIFITING OR UNCONDITIONALLY LOVING.
{ALL WE WILL HAVE TO DO IS READ THE REPLYS TO THIS POST.}


Oh puh leze. Do you REALLY think that the vast majority of the women who are material oriented are actually going to ADMIT to it on a dating site???

You have got to be kidding.

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Sun 01/25/09 12:25 AM
"Starry, starry night
Paint your palette blue and gray
Look out on a summer's day
With eyes that know the darkness in my soul

Shadows on the hills
Sketch the trees and the daffodils
Catch the breeze and the winter chills
In colors on the snowy linen land

Now I understand
What you tried to say to me
And how you suffered for your sanity
And how you tried to set them free
They would not listen, they did not know how
Perhaps they'll listen now

Starry, starry night
Flaming flowers that brightly blaze
Swirling clouds in violet haze
Reflect in Vincent's eyes of china blue

Colors changing hue
Morning fields of amber grain
Weathered faces lined in pain
Are soothed beneath the artist's loving hand

Now I understand
What you tried to say to me
And how you suffered for your sanity
And how you tried to set them free
They would not listen, they did not know how
Perhaps they'll listen now

For they could not love you
But still, your love was true
And when no hope was left in sight
On that starry, starry night
You took your life as lovers often do
But I could've told you, Vincent
This world was never meant
For one as beautiful as you

Starry, Starry night
Portraits hung in empty halls
Frameless heads on nameless walls
With eyes that watch the world and can't forget

Like the strangers that you've met
The ragged men in ragged clothes
The silver thorn, a bloody rose
Lie crushed and broken on the virgin snow

Now I think I know
What you tried to say to me
And how you suffered for your sanity
And how you tried to set them free
They would not listen, they're not listening still
Perhaps they never will"

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Sun 01/25/09 01:13 AM
I love that song, Daydreamer.love

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Sun 01/25/09 01:38 AM

I love unconditionally but that does not mean I will adopt a person, or live with them.

I might love a guy so much I will be purely honest with him and tell him that if he was married to me I would make his life a living hell.

It would be a living hell because I value my personal freedom above all things and marriage is not freedom, it is an institution. I would be miserable and I would probably make him miserable.

And because I feel love for people unconditionally, I do not require anything from them ~including a personal committed relationship.

Loving unconditionally does not mean that you should put up with abuse. It does not mean that you will stand by your man if he decides to rob banks or go on a killing spree.

It does not even mean you are obligated to visit him in prison.

None of the above has happened to me, I am just exploring the unconditional love idea.

You can do as you please, and I will still love you as God loves you, even if you rob banks and go on a killing spree, but I will not want to hang around with you.

But loving unconditionally means I can love you having never met you. And I do. flowerforyou

I love you and wish you the best. I wish you the ultimate joy and happiness. It does not matter what you choose to do with your life. You are totally free and that is what I want for you if that is what you want.

I want you to get what you want in life and I wish for you the greatest joy in getting it.

I want nothing in return. I don't even need to ever meet you. You don't even have to respond to this post. Nobody does. There are no conditions to the love I am sending and feeling.

Joy, Love, Life, forever.

JB drinker :banana:







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