Topic: stoners!?!?!?!?!
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Fri 01/30/09 08:24 PM

Look, to me weed isn't to bad. I do not smoke or do any drugs myself, but I have a lot of really great friends, that are very successful that do. This is just another form of people being brainwashed into believeing certain things. It was legal and is legal in certain states. So please do not compare it to things like crack and meth. NOT in the same category. It isn't the devil, alcohol is a lot more toxic.


For many of us, one leads to another. You're seeing an example of it now.

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Fri 01/30/09 08:24 PM


Look, to me weed isn't to bad. I do not smoke or do any drugs myself, but I have a lot of really great friends, that are very successful that do. This is just another form of people being brainwashed into believeing certain things. It was legal and is legal in certain states. So please do not compare it to things like crack and meth. NOT in the same category. It isn't the devil, alcohol is a lot more toxic.
it is legal with a perscription.. not completely legal.. just thought id make that distinction.



It doesn't matter. My point was that it isn't THAT damn bad. Like I said, alcohol is very DEADLY. Weed is NOT. I have had more friends die in alcohol related deaths. None involving weed. *shrugs*

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Fri 01/30/09 08:25 PM


I'm sober even when I'm stoned.

And it is legal in a number of states with a tax stamp, Denver, Colorado it is fully legal.smokin
nope. sorry to say.. that if you are under the influence of any intoxicants you are not sober..

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Fri 01/30/09 08:25 PM


Look, to me weed isn't to bad. I do not smoke or do any drugs myself, but I have a lot of really great friends, that are very successful that do. This is just another form of people being brainwashed into believeing certain things. It was legal and is legal in certain states. So please do not compare it to things like crack and meth. NOT in the same category. It isn't the devil, alcohol is a lot more toxic.


For many of us, one leads to another. You're seeing an example of it now.


ALCOHOL, ALCOHOL, ALCOHOL


whoa

Most use THAT before anything.

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Fri 01/30/09 08:26 PM



Look, to me weed isn't to bad. I do not smoke or do any drugs myself, but I have a lot of really great friends, that are very successful that do. This is just another form of people being brainwashed into believeing certain things. It was legal and is legal in certain states. So please do not compare it to things like crack and meth. NOT in the same category. It isn't the devil, alcohol is a lot more toxic.


For many of us, one leads to another. You're seeing an example of it now.


ALCOHOL, ALCOHOL, ALCOHOL


whoa

Most use THAT before anything.


Actually with the same loose requirements, most start with cough medicine.

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Fri 01/30/09 08:27 PM
You all can believe that propaghanda back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's about how horrible weed is.

I will never smoke it, but will advocate it's legalization when it comes time.smokin

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Fri 01/30/09 08:27 PM



I'm sober even when I'm stoned.

And it is legal in a number of states with a tax stamp, Denver, Colorado it is fully legal.smokin
nope. sorry to say.. that if you are under the influence of any intoxicants you are not sober..


Well you are no fun!tongue2

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Fri 01/30/09 08:28 PM




Look, to me weed isn't to bad. I do not smoke or do any drugs myself, but I have a lot of really great friends, that are very successful that do. This is just another form of people being brainwashed into believeing certain things. It was legal and is legal in certain states. So please do not compare it to things like crack and meth. NOT in the same category. It isn't the devil, alcohol is a lot more toxic.


For many of us, one leads to another. You're seeing an example of it now.


ALCOHOL, ALCOHOL, ALCOHOL


whoa

Most use THAT before anything.


Actually with the same loose requirements, most start with cough medicine.


Nyquil baby.

Yeah anyhow. Weed isn't the gateway drug.

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Fri 01/30/09 08:28 PM
Cripples.

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Fri 01/30/09 08:30 PM
why you guys still posting SHUT the fu*k up already.. damn

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Fri 01/30/09 08:31 PM

why you guys still posting SHUT the fu*k up already.. damn


I told you to go to the time out room young man.pitchfork laugh

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Fri 01/30/09 08:32 PM
i know way too many strong successful people who smoke the ganja (lol thats dedicated to you-know-who).

AS AN ADULT! i have come to the conclusion that just because i dont do it.. doesn't mean its evil.

i knew a guy who beat the crap out of his wife and put her in the hospital while drunk....

so yeah... just sayin..

its a perspective thing. some people will always think its the root of all evil (and will say that while smokin a cig or drinkin a long island) while other will say its okay in moderation (god control yourself.. geez.) and some would say its the best stuff on earth. in which i say good luck man.

mary jane... she'll always be a hard debated topic.

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Fri 01/30/09 08:34 PM
Uneducated, not been there, done that, morons...
JMHO...

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Fri 01/30/09 08:36 PM
frown frown frown frown frown frown frown frown frown frown frown frowndevil frown frown frown frown frown frown frown frown frown

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Fri 01/30/09 08:36 PM

why you guys still posting SHUT the fu*k up already.. damn



Well, NOW you've gone & done it...:laughing:

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Fri 01/30/09 08:37 PM



Look, to me weed isn't to bad. I do not smoke or do any drugs myself, but I have a lot of really great friends, that are very successful that do. This is just another form of people being brainwashed into believeing certain things. It was legal and is legal in certain states. So please do not compare it to things like crack and meth. NOT in the same category. It isn't the devil, alcohol is a lot more toxic.
it is legal with a perscription.. not completely legal.. just thought id make that distinction.



It doesn't matter. My point was that it isn't THAT damn bad. Like I said, alcohol is very DEADLY. Weed is NOT. I have had more friends die in alcohol related deaths. None involving weed. *shrugs*


I disagree. To me it is that bad. I've witnessed first hand the effects it has had on my entire family while growing up.

And regardless if people are for it or against it, just like all the rest that were mentioned, it's an illegal drug. You will get arrested for having it, distributing it, or even being under the influence of it. Why on earth would someone want to take the risk of losing everything they've worked for, just for something like that?

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Fri 01/30/09 08:39 PM



Look, to me weed isn't to bad. I do not smoke or do any drugs myself, but I have a lot of really great friends, that are very successful that do. This is just another form of people being brainwashed into believeing certain things. It was legal and is legal in certain states. So please do not compare it to things like crack and meth. NOT in the same category. It isn't the devil, alcohol is a lot more toxic.
it is legal with a perscription.. not completely legal.. just thought id make that distinction.



It doesn't matter. My point was that it isn't THAT damn bad. Like I said, alcohol is very DEADLY. Weed is NOT. I have had more friends die in alcohol related deaths. None involving weed. *shrugs*



For some of us, it is. For myself, I would have to say that it's a tossup between women and marijuana as to what lowers my IQ the most. In the fields of interest I'm involved in, I've never found it an attractive substance to ingest, simply because it makes me stupid. I found it easier to give up marijuana than women and that I think better without Marijuana. Of course each person has their own choice to make in this area. As a matter of fact, many of my girlfriends smoked it, and for some it was a problem and for others it wasn't. In all cases, it wasn't a problem for me, either because they had stopped because they knew it was a problem for them, or their use wasn't excessive.

The OP, however, is likely a different story. By his own admission, he has relapsed on alcohol as well, and pretty much crossed the line away from sobriety. By his own admission, he's no longer sober, and hopefully will be able to get humble about it so he can deal with it and mitigate his suffering. Then again, it may have been a break, because it really doesn't seem like all too smart of recovery if you ask me.


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Fri 01/30/09 08:41 PM




I'm sober even when I'm stoned.

And it is legal in a number of states with a tax stamp, Denver, Colorado it is fully legal.smokin
nope. sorry to say.. that if you are under the influence of any intoxicants you are not sober..


Well you are no fun!tongue2
slaphead
duh!!!
you should know that by now!!
:wink:

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Fri 01/30/09 08:43 PM
Edited by izzie on Fri 01/30/09 08:43 PM

i know way too many strong successful people who smoke the ganja (lol thats dedicated to you-know-who).

AS AN ADULT! i have come to the conclusion that just because i dont do it.. doesn't mean its evil.

i knew a guy who beat the crap out of his wife and put her in the hospital while drunk....

so yeah... just sayin..

its a perspective thing. some people will always think its the root of all evil (and will say that while smokin a cig or drinkin a long island) while other will say its okay in moderation (god control yourself.. geez.) and some would say its the best stuff on earth. in which i say good luck man.

mary jane... she'll always be a hard debated topic.
and a guy *a "mild manared gentleman who was an over achiever at all things* beat and raped my best friend.. the only drug in his system.. thc.. when he got released from his rehab.. he got stoned... found her.. and did it to her again.

food for thought

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Fri 01/30/09 08:43 PM


Look, to me weed isn't to bad. I do not smoke or do any drugs myself, but I have a lot of really great friends, that are very successful that do. This is just another form of people being brainwashed into believeing certain things. It was legal and is legal in certain states. So please do not compare it to things like crack and meth. NOT in the same category. It isn't the devil, alcohol is a lot more toxic.
it is legal with a perscription.. not completely legal.. just thought id make that distinction.



Ironicly, federal and state laws are not in agreement. The feds will bust you, with or without a prescription. I have to say though that the legality is not what I see as an issue so much as what it does to the person. Alcohol is perfectly legal, and while no law prevents me from drinking, common sense intervenes, reminding me of how this computer nerd once wrestled with 4 police officers in an alcohol induced mania. That wasn't my only clue, but it was representative of the insanity that comes with the first minimal dose of anything for me that manipulates my dopamine receptors.