I can list so many things, that I hear on the news , read in the papers, which proves that many politicians think that everybody is dumb and stupid and whatever they say we believe it or don't even research it at all and just take it granted.

Here is some examples.

Pres.Obama is keep talking about Osama B. laden + september 11 attacks, while there is no proof that he had anything to do with it.

even the FBI most wanted list doesn't blame him for 9/11, although being a suspect and definitely a terrorist by all means and while it's been great to capture him, I think the lines go deep into the government, since Osama B. was actually aided at one point by CIA during the cold war and he had connection to the US government.

See it here:
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm


Pres. Obama keeps talking about "Iran to stop Its nuclear ambitions to make a bomb", while the international atomic energy agency (IAEA) has investigated many times with Iran and there is no sign even planning to make bombs only a nuclear plant to generate power.

Meanwhile Israel wants to bomb them, claiming Iran is the biggest threat, while Iran hasn't been in war since the Iraq/Iran war in the 80s, and that's because Saddam Hussein (aided by USA) was the aggressor.

read these conflicting things here:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/03/iran.nuclear/index.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/4640052/Israel-launches-covert-war-against-Iran.html

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/04/5014


Pres. Obama talks about sending more bailout money for banks in his latest speech, while banks spend the bailout money away on golf tournaments, expensive hotels and gifts, while firing their employees.

Here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/24/northern-trust-bank-threw_n_169674.html



There I more and more. Every time someone in the government opens his/her mouth, I go research and even though many times they got a point, I also find conflicting/unreliable claims and sometimes blatant lies and propaganda pushed down the throat of the public.

you are right, the sad thing, and it really does make me sad, is that all of this was part of the plan laid out in the zionist protocols. I see it everyday and sometimes i'm so confused at why God allows this to happen to good people. It really hurts my heart.

God ain't got nothing to do with politics.

That's why you never believe anything the government says, and never think that God cares...they are tied together.

maybe that's the problem, you ever think about that Mscarmen?

Don't trust, don't fear, don't beg.

It is right on our money, the truth: "In God We Trust". Meaning you can't trust any man.

lol, novus ordo seclurum (new world order) is on our dollar too, that's the scary part.

Obama is supported by Zionists. Iran is a threat to Israel simply because they have oil and are wanting to sell it for real money instead of Federal Reserve notes, which are worthless I.O.U's on the world market.

The plan is to get the REAL WEALTH. Paper money and debt is not real wealth. Federal reserve notes are not real wealth.

Here is the real wealth:

Gold, Oil, Drugs, weapons, and Land.

Mostly Gold.

There is a reason Gold holds it value. (Forget diamonds, they are a farce and have no real value except what some idiot will pay for them in worthless paper money.)

The reason gold and other minerals have value has to do with aliens.
Sorry, but that's the truth.

well, most of us are dumb enough to believe politicians so i guess those that do are just as dumb as the politician thinks they are.

wow

Whoa

It has nothing to do with the 'zionist protocols", it has everything to do with politics and diplomacy and strategic positions, and above all....MONEY.

The "war" in Afghanistan is also a fishy thing, having the most of the Afghanistan income coming from opium (poppy seeds) and having all the troops there has nothing to do with "speading democracy" or "beating the terrorists", that's just the BS the government throws out, so people don't ask too many questions.
There are various reasons why there is a surge there, one could have something to do with gas pipelines running across, or strategic military position not far from Russian/Iranian interest and there another even worse theory which has to do with drug business. If you look at a map, you gonna see Afghanistan bordering Pakistan and Iran and it's no accident why the USA is searching for "terrorists" in this region (more corretly, occupying forces being in a strategic position) .

Anyone thinks that we should be worrying about Iran having nukes and the typical BS of "it could fall onto terrorist's hands" should just use logic and some info and know that Pakistan has nukes for a long time now and even Obama said that "Al-Queda" has repositioned and regained strength (coming from the intelligence) at the Pakistan/Afghan borders..so you go ahead and ask what is easier:
-Iran to pursue to make a nuke from years from now and somehow convince the iranian government to sell it? (nevermind the fact, that they aren't making any)
-Just try to buy some nukes already available from Pakistan?

The answer is obvious, not to mention Russia has so many nukes, they could blow up this planet twice and not all of them are "secured" whatsoever and and it wouldn't take long to aquire a nuke on the black market, all they need is money.

So there you go...that's why there are troops in Afghanistan, it has little to do to "hunt terrorists", which is a loose term anyway who considered a terrorist (and why) if you ask me.

Another notion about Iran "bombing Israel" is just another big BS. Even if they would have nukes, even if they really would wanna do taht, they would find themselves in a word of sh1t.

You ask why? Just run the theory for a second and you will see how illogical and suicidal that is. Jerusalem is not only sacred and holy to Jews and Christians, but Muslims as well. Imagine Iran making a radioactive land out of it and leveling the mosques and killing all the Arab population and the Palestinians. Does this make sense to you?

Even if they would be that crazy, not only European and USA would want to wipe Iran off, but all the other Muslim nations as well.

See the entire BS about this now?

This whole war mongering coming from USA and Israel and other nations like Germany has NOTHING to do with reality, it has everything to do with special interest. Just look at Iraq, "weapons of mass destruction" and all the rest of the crap they spoonfed to the people and now, the whole war was based on lies and everyone can see it.
This entire thing about "Iran is a threat" falls into the same - like Iraq- BS category.

PARANOIA!!

Browse these forums...the masses are asses.

That's all old news to me.

You said: "It has nothing to do with the 'zionist protocols", it has everything to do with politics and diplomacy and strategic positions. "

Politics? Diplomacy? Strategic positions? For what overall purpose?

To transfer the real wealth.

The real wealth: Gold, oil, guns, drugs, Land.

That is the Zionist protocols.

Control the real wealth and the currency.

Out of the mouths of fools. Speak for your self..

I find it funny, that you are mostly right on target, except for your first and last sentences.

Does one needs to be supported by Zionists to desire a socialism?

If it is all about real wealth, which you said it is, and I agree with you on that, then why have a "higher purpose" and do it all out of Zionist Intentions? Is real wealth not good enough of a motivation?

Lastly, what does Gold has to do with aliens, that makes it hold it's value? Are you implying Stichin's theory?

Atlantis75,

I agree. Except for the Zionist's plot. I have no evidence for or against that, but my Occam's Razor tells me there is no need for any plot, since the real wealth is already involved.

The Russians were trying to have the fields in their own control, but failed. Now US is controlling them, and distributing the goods through Kosovo. That's the deal. Russians tried to at least control the distribution, but run out of fuel. Darn!

And yes, on the matter of nukes, it is simply ridiculous. There are hundreds of those left from USSR, and half of them was sold already for cash and drugs. If you haven't been to Russia, you just don't quite get how amazingly contrast is that country with regards to control. The control is absolute, one can not take a sh!t without getting a stamp, and yet, on the other hand, there is no control whatsoever. One can buy a nuclear sub for cash from govt., or even simply for few bottles of vodka from a guard, and no one cares. Nukes? Under control? Tell me why. There is no reason for Russians to control them. They are too big to suffer from a nuclear blast too much.

Given this, how can one suggest that Iranians would be so patently stupid to try and build their own bomb, instead of buying it in Russia, if they intend to use it for terrorism. That is the worst thing they could do, I mean to commit a terrorist act while officially having nukes. If that was their plan, they would go for a black market.

It's no different they doing everything one can do to get a brand new gun from a store, then get it registered, and all that with an intent on committing a crime and get away.