Singapore follows a form of Sharia law. we would have a hard time instituting something like that in America

I know. It just disturbs me to read about how many parolees commit worst crimes than what got them in jail in the first place. I forgot the statistics but the average number of rapes by a rapist, for example, are quite high. I don't think they deserve to be in society and I don't want to pay for their care or pay their attorney to cycle them in and out of the system. I don't think we should suffer the presence of child molesters and rapists at all.

there are people for it and against it...so it wouldn't work here like in singapore...agreed?

This is not Singapore so yes, I agree. The problem is that what we have is not working here either.

ok....so let's discuss the next one

NUMBER TWO: THE GREAT AMERICAN WELFARE SYSTEM
Get rid of the great American Welfare System and watch long term crime decrease. We have several generations of Americans that have leached onto the great welfare system in America. Beginning with the great society under Lyndon Johnson, the welfare program took its real roots. Millions of babies have been born as a direct result of the welfare system. A government program called Aid To Dependent Children or ADC that is still in force as of this writing is one of the programs that promoted government sponsored prostitution. If a woman did not have a man in the house, she could receive a monthly payment for each child as they were born. Many of those welfare babies were brought into the world for the wrong reason. These babies grow up without character priorities, without family ties, without self- image and not knowing the first thing about choice and consequence. People achieve and become producers because of their own self-esteem and self-image. People with no self-image contribute little to society and generally take out their frustrations on society. Those frustrations often translate into some form of criminal activity. Today great numbers of the welfare culture roam the street in gangs-which they call their family! The welfare state has spawned a group who expect something for nothing. Crime is something for nothing. These people have not been trained to give anything-only to be takers.


any thoughts on this?

sorry...here is a clickable link

http://www.atps.com/crime/cause.htm

That was the start of te downfall of our country. Once we started giving people everything and they didnt have to try to rely on themselves, and their children grew up seeing they could do nothing and be supported. And it just keeps growing and growing and will never stop.

I had to work with these people for years. Some were nice, some were not. The children roamed the streets learning from each other. The gangs that were formed had "rules" than included crime as an "entry fee". The ADC program has caused far more damage to our society than good and the original purpose was to help mothers whose spouses had died in war. I have listened to various women talk about the economics of having more children.

The saddest part of the ADC program is that the female children grew up thinking that this program is a "way of life" and planned accordingly. The system needs to be broken by replacing checks with the ability to earn.

ok...so what do we do??? just stop it cold turkey? ween them off of it? keep it going??

I do know SOME people do use it as a form of a helping hand but SOME abuse it in some of the worst ways

If used to help out while unemployed and then when your back on your feet you get off thats fine. Its the ones that never get off and abuse it that are the problem, makes it near impossible to get help if you just need it to get by for a short period of time.

I think the rules need to be more strict to get it and you should have to prove you are looking for work, not just going through the motions. And I know no one likes this but I think mandatory drug test should be administered to recieve it.

FTR...I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the article. But I would like thoughts and discussion on the topic. IMO no one can completely prevent violent crimes, but I would like to see it lowered. if we go into the crime stats of our own towns...it's actually surprising to see

You replace the cost of the program such as ADC and the tax credit program I worked with, with job training and day care. You make sure the children get special education in how to get out and you deal harshly with the drug pushers and pimps. Some of the projects I visited were already doing some or most of this. Some were just pits of crime. It takes special people to handle the problem and there aren't enough to do the job. Making additional children unprofitable is a start that, in a way, worked in China.

Conceal carry laws have been proven to lower violent crimes. Which is why I'm pissed it didnt pass in my great state.

But that will never stop the stupid crimes.

so instead of giving our money...give them child care and trainging correct?? that i would agree with. and IMO....I'm with TJ. if the "employer" is the tax payers...they should have to take random drug tests just like alot of employers do.


“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you will not have to listen to his incessant whining about how hungry he is.”—Author unknown

“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you can sell him fishing equipment.”—Author unknown

“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks.”—Author unknown

“Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Unless he doesn't like sushi—then you also have to teach him to cook.”—Auren Hoffman, Herald Philosopher

“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish, and he will sit in the boat and drink beer all day.”—OldFox

“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to sell fish and he eats steak.”—Author unknown

ok...#3. I have no problem calling things as i see them

NUMBER THREE: RECOGNIZE EVIL AND CALL IT EVIL
This society today led by the nose-by the main stream media avoids the word evil like the plague. Evil will always be with us a criminal reality. Evil has a history going back thousands of years, in biblical times it began with Cain when he killed his brother Abel in cold blood. Criminals have been with us since the beginning of civilization. Call it evil, call it genetic, call it mean, call it behavioral or call it a dozen other names but evil is the name. Lawyers redefine evil acts as a sick act by a sick person, generally because of childhood abuse or some other deficiency. Regardless of the art of deception it is still evil. Let's face it! There is an evil group in society and the group will enlarge with society, they will always be with us and we will always have the need for a prison system to house evil people. We need to include evil in our vocabulary, our anticipation and our planning in society!

Kill'em all let God sort'em out JUST KIDDING

I want to say they should go back to having the death squads to go after the terrorists(hope I dont get in trouble for saying that word)

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck it sure as hell isnt a chicken!!!!!!

I agree with the post. I would add that a lot of what the lawyers so to twist the truth in our legal system with is supposed to be based on telling the truth is evil. IMHO, people who do not believe in evil have not seen it.

EVIL–adjective
1. morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life.
2. harmful; injurious: evil laws.
3. characterized or accompanied by misfortune or suffering; unfortunate; disastrous: to be fallen on evil days.
4. due to actual or imputed bad conduct or character: an evil reputation.
5. marked by anger, irritability, irascibility, etc.: He is known for his evil disposition.


so by definition...it is accurate IMO. why worry about offending people that do terrible things???? call it what it is. maybe if more people call them out for what they are...then it might send some kind of message at least

(in the words of adj) what do I know

You know plenty. You are one of the smartest people I have never met!

woo hoo metal...i gotcha fooled