Topic: Crime...the cause and cure
yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:09 PM


slaphead fanta...i don't see a solution to the satisfaction of all. that is why i posted this instead of who did what where


You're getting good at denial rose.laugh laugh
That's your post I quoted. Im sorry I interupted your little bandwagon session.




i also said I don't claim to agree or disagree with the OP. are you even reading??? i think I made it pretty d@mn clear that not much can be done....so you tell me what is the solution or do you just want to point fingers?

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:10 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 05/12/09 07:10 PM

#4...I wish everyone would own up to what they do no matter how big or small

NUMBER FOUR: CHOICE AND CONSEQUENCE
A lawyer-based justice system that denies blame, consequence and responsibility. We have permitted the evolution of a justice system that denies responsibility for criminal acts. We permit the system to allow award winning performances by lawyers preaching the non-responsibility doctrine to influence the juries. We permit the system to bring on paid professional experts to evaluate the criminals to convince the juries that the offender is really the victim in pre-meditated murder, rape and assault cases. We permit a system to hide choice and consequence in favor of evaluations and psychological examinations. Instead of criminals facing responsibility, we see batteries of lawyers running around filing trumped up defense motions to convert the offenders to victims. Another message going out from the judicial system to the criminal community...go ahead and practice your profession...a lawyer will get you off with a redefinition of the facts, hide the truth, deception, fraud or a sales job where a plea bargain is the product! We are spawning generations of young people who scoff at choice and consequence and many of them do not even know the meaning of it and who is the teacher....the American judicial system.



LMAO
Who wrote this chit?
A communist?
The system we have, innocent until proven guilty, demands everyone is given a chance for an adequate defense with equal legal representation.
It seems that who ever wrote this is suggesting the accused doesnt deserve that right.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:12 PM
for the love of...at least I gave something to discuss...either contribute or don't bother....just sit there and point out what's wrong with nothing to offer

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:12 PM



slaphead fanta...i don't see a solution to the satisfaction of all. that is why i posted this instead of who did what where


You're getting good at denial rose.laugh laugh
That's your post I quoted. Im sorry I interupted your little bandwagon session.




i also said I don't claim to agree or disagree with the OP. are you even reading??? i think I made it pretty d@mn clear that not much can be done....so you tell me what is the solution or do you just want to point fingers?


I read it all!
I didnt ignore one post!

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:14 PM
THEN CONTRIBUTE AN STOP POINTING FINGERS AT PEOPLE THAT AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO TRY!!!!!!!!!!!

GO FOR IT...TELL US HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:18 PM

for the love of...at least I gave something to discuss...either contribute or don't bother....just sit there and point out what's wrong with nothing to offer


I did!

Didn't you even read it?

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:20 PM

THEN CONTRIBUTE AN STOP POINTING FINGERS AT PEOPLE THAT AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO TRY!!!!!!!!!!!

GO FOR IT...TELL US HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM


Im sorry!
Are you in charge here?
laugh laugh laugh laugh

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:21 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 05/12/09 07:21 PM


fanta...i'm taking suggestions


Violent crime esp, and all crime in general is at an all time low in America.
I'd say what we are doing is working pretty good.
If anything we are way to quick to punish people with prison sentences way to frequently.
What I mean is, we need to eliminate victimless crimes.


Then you quit complaining about every little thing!slaphead

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:21 PM


fanta...i'm taking suggestions


Violent crime esp, and all crime in general is at an all time low in America.
I'd say what we are doing is working pretty good.
If anything we are way to quick to punish people with prison sentences way to frequently.
What I mean is, we need to eliminate victimless crimes.


this is your suggestion???? funny because I got told, in different words, that I'm pretty much cold hearted and wasn't solving the problem...by someone else.

and THIS will solve the problem???? How???

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:23 PM
One word!
Comprehesion!

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:23 PM
Who wrote this chit?
A communist?
The system we have, innocent until proven guilty, demands everyone is given a chance for an adequate defense with equal legal representation.
It seems that who ever wrote this is suggesting the accused doesnt deserve that right.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:24 PM
you know what fanta....you can go to ...
i was bashed for not doing anything...then i try to open a discussion and get bashed for it??? can't win with you people can I????

I have no problem with my states protection laws....if you do...i suggest either offer something or stay away from the state

I am F*CKING sick and tired of the blatant agendas and bashing and I will be d@mned if i put up with it. fix the problem...or back off

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:24 PM

Who wrote this chit?
A communist?
The system we have, innocent until proven guilty, demands everyone is given a chance for an adequate defense with equal legal representation.
It seems that who ever wrote this is suggesting the accused doesnt deserve that right.



then tell that to the bleeding hearts that complain about the death penalty!!!!!!!!!!!

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:25 PM
it is damned if you do damned if you don't with some people. they will never be happy.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:29 PM
I havent bashed anyone!
No matter how often you scream it!

I find the articl to offer nothing but gripes about our judical system other than suggestions that a communist system would be better.

I said nothing about a state. LOL

I thought these suggestions were about the Nation!slaphead

TJN's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:33 PM

I havent bashed anyone!
No matter how often you scream it!

I find the articl to offer nothing but gripes about our judical system other than suggestions that a communist system would be better.

I said nothing about a state. LOL

I thought these suggestions were about the Nation!slaphead

They were just put up as an alternative to whaat we have since some seem to think our system doesnt work and if you dont agree with them feel free to offer an allternative instead of tearing apart what you think is wrong with it.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:34 PM
no fanta...but you do love to argue about things that I HAVE PROVEN. still not good enough...fine run for president and fix the country to everyone satisfaction. you didn't offer a solution to the violent crimes because there is none. people will do what they want. as far as the system now??? come on...how many complain about the laws now and the system as it is????

as far as the article...I have said I don't agree or disagree...BUT AT LEAT I OFFERED SOMETHING FOR DEBATE!!!!!!!

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:36 PM
fanta...it is about the nation but every state has differnt laws...and you do know why I started this right???? come on!!!!

TJ...don't bother. there is no solution to please everyone...which is my whole point. some want to point fingers but they can't fix it either

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:37 PM

it is damned if you do damned if you don't with some people. they will never be happy.


That's why I always remain steady.
Im not in to the wishy washy, adapt my opinion to the popular one, just to be liked scene.

There's a country song!


Now Daddy didn't like trouble, but if it came along
Everyone that knew him knew which side that he'd be on
He never was a hero, or this county's shinin' light
But you could always find him standing up
For what he thought was right

He'd say you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything
You've got to be your own man not a puppet on a string
Never compromise what's right and uphold your family name
You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything

Now we might have been better off or owned a bigger house
If Daddy had done more givin' in or a little more backing down
But we always had plenty just living his advice
Whatever you do today you'll have to sleep with tonight

He'd say you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything
You've got to be your own man not a puppet on a string
Never compromise what's right and uphold your family name
You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything

Now I know that things are different than they were in Daddy's days
But I still believe what makes a man really hasn't changed

You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything
You've got to be your own man not a puppet on a string
Never compromise what's right and uphold your family name
You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything

You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/12/09 07:40 PM
fanta...you want to argue and point fingers. sorry but i don't think that song (which happens to be a favorite of mine) is your song at all

done