TJ

I'm actually surprised more aren't in here to discuss possible ways. there is a lot of complaining about things that happen but not a lot of solutions

darn it TJ...what good are you????

#4...I wish everyone would own up to what they do no matter how big or small

NUMBER FOUR: CHOICE AND CONSEQUENCE
A lawyer-based justice system that denies blame, consequence and responsibility. We have permitted the evolution of a justice system that denies responsibility for criminal acts. We permit the system to allow award winning performances by lawyers preaching the non-responsibility doctrine to influence the juries. We permit the system to bring on paid professional experts to evaluate the criminals to convince the juries that the offender is really the victim in pre-meditated murder, rape and assault cases. We permit a system to hide choice and consequence in favor of evaluations and psychological examinations. Instead of criminals facing responsibility, we see batteries of lawyers running around filing trumped up defense motions to convert the offenders to victims. Another message going out from the judicial system to the criminal community...go ahead and practice your profession...a lawyer will get you off with a redefinition of the facts, hide the truth, deception, fraud or a sales job where a plea bargain is the product! We are spawning generations of young people who scoff at choice and consequence and many of them do not even know the meaning of it and who is the teacher....the American judicial system.

The problems with the judicial system are much more complex than this although these points are true. The laws are written by lawyers paid by lawyers to make money for lawyers. The system expands the laws creating more loopholes for more appeals for more work for lawyers. The overall goal of our justice system is not justice. It is to relocate as much wealth as possible to the ownership of lawyers.

The fix? Study other legal systems (such as the English) and copy the parts that work better than the ones we have.

Make complex laws simple and punishment uniform. Make parole rare instead of automatic and based on uniform rules.

let's take the first item in the article and if we agree or disagre with it

NUMBER ONE: SWIFT AND SURE PUNISHMENT
The greatest deterrent to crime is swift and sure punishment! We do not have that message going out to the criminal community from the judicial system today. Think of it, according to Justice department statistics....just going into the profession, all criminals collectively have a 79% guarantee of success in America. There is no other profession that is guaranteed that type of success.

Crime does pay and criminals know that. There is no better way to show how punishment is a deterrent to crime than to compare the American revolving door justice system with another criminal justice system that meets out swift and sure punishment. In recent years we have been able to clearly compare two systems of justice. One of our graffiti criminals by name of Michael Fay got loose in Singapore and practiced his criminal art on a dozen or so automobiles and telephone booths. He received a fine of $2000 and got his butt caned with a wet bamboo rod. The old American lawyer ploy of pleading his client not responsible did not work in Singapore. If this crime had occurred in his home town of Dayton, Ohio, Michael Fay would have been fined $750 and received a suspended 90 day sentence. The American criminal justice system today has evolved into an award winning performance of lawyer fraud that attempts to show that the offender is really the victim. If the lawyers miss the mark then the lawyer judge will hobble the jury with dozens of pages of instructions to reach the desired verdict.

Singapore has no record of a repeat offender who has been previously caned-it is punishment to remember. Is punishment a deterrent? Let's compare Singapore justice with American justice on a greater scale. Los Angeles, California is about the same size as Singapore with about 3.5 million people. Lets use the year 1993 for comparison;

CRIME LOS ANGELES SINGAPORE

Homicides 1,100
Rapes 1,855 80
Robberies 39,277 1008
Auto Theft 65,541 3162

Singapore has had no kidnappings during the five year study and only a handful of armed robberies. Singapore has an immediate mandatory death sentence for those who fire a gun during the commission of a crime. Twenty offenses carry the death penalty. Firearm and drug trafficking offenses carry the most swift punishment. During a four year period, 47 convicts were hanged in Singapore, more than all violent criminals executed in the entire United States during the same period of time. Twenty two of those who were hanged were convicted of drug trafficking. Capital punishment is a definite deterrent to crime. An executed criminal cannot commit another crime.

The USA can learn a great lesson from the Singapore caning experience. In fact we could learn so much about punishment as a deterrent to crime, with legal justice reform, we could apply billions of dollars in crime costs and crime bills and completely eliminate the government deficit with the savings on crime costs in a short period of time.

TJ

I'm actually surprised more aren't in here to discuss possible ways. there is a lot of complaining about things that happen but not a lot of solutions

fanta...i'm taking suggestions

fanta...i don't see a solution to the satisfaction of all. that is why i posted this instead of who did what where

Yellowrose, crime has existed since humans started to walk upright and being able to grab a stick or a rock.

You can't "cure" crime, just like you can't cure the weather.

You can't "wage war" on crime, just like you can't "wage war on terror".

As sojouring_soul suggested, removing the monetary system based economy would greatly improve crime related to many things, others like sick-in-the-head criminals like Ted Bundy are the extreme minority in the population, they will happen, regardless of what you do or don't do.