Topic: Demographics that will scare you...!
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Tue 06/16/09 07:08 PM
You need to watch this and take it to heart! This should be a wake-up call, but it probably won't be. Remember Islam is more than a religion, it is a way of life. Once in control, no deviation from their way will be tolerated...!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

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Tue 06/16/09 07:57 PM
There was a time when Christians did not tolerate those who did not share their point of view and they forced it on aboriginal peoples at the tip of the sword and the business end of a gun.

I work with lots of muslims, none of them have ever tried to convert me. However plenty of people have tried to hand me little bible pamphlets. I usually just ask them if they have the newest Harry Potter book instead.

I don't have an issue with either, just leave me out of the whole thing.

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Wed 06/17/09 07:05 AM
Yea I do not think any single religion is to blame.

Its a mindset, its the idea that a person can receive information from god, and not just any information but the WILL OF GOD.
This is the most destructive notion yet.

Its takes two to tango, one to spout "god will" another to believe.

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Wed 06/17/09 09:51 AM

Yea I do not think any single religion is to blame.

Its a mindset, its the idea that a person can receive information from god, and not just any information but the WILL OF GOD.
This is the most destructive notion yet.

Its takes two to tango, one to spout "god will" another to believe.


Well, 2 isn't bad but it's also the mob mentality. i think it was in men in black when K said "A person is smart, people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals"

When you have a lot of people on "your side" and a bunch on the other it's just easy to group the opponent, dehumanize them, which makes it easier to fight and kill them. (ie, that guy is a muslim vs that guy is Akbar who has a wife, 2 kids and owns that gas station across the street).

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Wed 06/17/09 10:05 AM
I received in my travels 3 korans(Quran) in my lifetime. Each time sincerly given to me and promising it will change my life for good.

The problem with these holy scriptures is the instructions of how much you have to do each day to prove your loyalty to the writings and god in general.

One has to praise Allah quiet a few times a day. I mean people literally stop everything to pray. Some even roll out a rug each time. Go to Egypt or Turkey and you will see!

Well what it is worth, Islam is truly a different lifestyle. I think it is easier for those who have grown up to it since childhood.








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Wed 06/17/09 10:23 AM
As henry Navarre said "Paris is worth a Mass"

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Wed 06/17/09 10:36 AM

You need to watch this and take it to heart! This should be a wake-up call, but it probably won't be. Remember Islam is more than a religion, it is a way of life. Once in control, no deviation from their way will be tolerated...!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

flowerforyou Why do you think this is happening?flowerforyou

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Wed 06/17/09 12:35 PM
spock Why is this happening? spock What could be the explanation?spock

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Wed 06/17/09 05:38 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Wed 06/17/09 05:39 PM

spock Why is this happening? spock What could be the explanation?spock


A few things.

1. Europe (used to be) prosperous. At least more prosperous than Islamic countries.

2. Terrible immigration laws

3. Terrible immigration laws, because large corporations are seeking cheap workforce, (that means non-european, 3rd world immigrants)

4. Europeans want to reach a higher standard of living, and in the declining economy and terrible debt, it means both male/female must work and pursue a carrier = less marriage.

5. Family and family orientated society/programs demonized and wrecking ultra liberalism and "new way of life" (read: women rather do abortions and not volunteer to be a mother, pursues a carrier and rather live alone) wreaking havoc.

Coming soon to USA.

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Wed 06/17/09 07:04 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 06/17/09 07:05 PM


spock Why is this happening? spock What could be the explanation?spock


A few things.

1. Europe (used to be) prosperous. At least more prosperous than Islamic countries.

2. Terrible immigration laws

3. Terrible immigration laws, because large corporations are seeking cheap workforce, (that means non-european, 3rd world immigrants)

4. Europeans want to reach a higher standard of living, and in the declining economy and terrible debt, it means both male/female must work and pursue a carrier = less marriage.

5. Family and family orientated society/programs demonized and wrecking ultra liberalism and "new way of life" (read: women rather do abortions and not volunteer to be a mother, pursues a carrier and rather live alone) wreaking havoc.

Coming soon to USA.
flowerforyou I mean even if that information really is true and really does happen, I still don't see nothing new about it, since populations groups have always been shifting around like that.flowerforyou Not sure why it isnt natural for that to happen and that is assuming for the sake of this discussion that information is accurate.flowerforyou

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Wed 06/17/09 09:52 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Wed 06/17/09 09:53 PM



spock Why is this happening? spock What could be the explanation?spock


A few things.

1. Europe (used to be) prosperous. At least more prosperous than Islamic countries.

2. Terrible immigration laws

3. Terrible immigration laws, because large corporations are seeking cheap workforce, (that means non-european, 3rd world immigrants)

4. Europeans want to reach a higher standard of living, and in the declining economy and terrible debt, it means both male/female must work and pursue a carrier = less marriage.

5. Family and family orientated society/programs demonized and wrecking ultra liberalism and "new way of life" (read: women rather do abortions and not volunteer to be a mother, pursues a carrier and rather live alone) wreaking havoc.

Coming soon to USA.
flowerforyou I mean even if that information really is true and really does happen, I still don't see nothing new about it, since populations groups have always been shifting around like that.flowerforyou Not sure why it isnt natural for that to happen and that is assuming for the sake of this discussion that information is accurate.flowerforyou


Globalisation. People from the Middle-East have been immigrating to Europe for better life for the past decade or so.

Although Europe did have a Muslim rule about 500 years ago, for 150 years, Eastern Europe and the Balkans were under the control of the Ottoman Turks (and yet, only a small portion of the people turned muslim) , so it's not new there (but again, there is no islamic immigration to eastern Europe right now) . What new is having them in Western and Northern Europe. On the other hand, there is a sense of propaganda in the movie, since it's inaccurate to say that a population cannot reverse a decline.
The Mongolian Invasion wiped out more than 7/8 of the population in Ukraine, Russia, and Hungary back in the 13th century, and yet the population re-emerged withing 2-3 generations.

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Wed 06/17/09 10:41 PM




spock Why is this happening? spock What could be the explanation?spock


A few things.

1. Europe (used to be) prosperous. At least more prosperous than Islamic countries.

2. Terrible immigration laws

3. Terrible immigration laws, because large corporations are seeking cheap workforce, (that means non-european, 3rd world immigrants)

4. Europeans want to reach a higher standard of living, and in the declining economy and terrible debt, it means both male/female must work and pursue a carrier = less marriage.

5. Family and family orientated society/programs demonized and wrecking ultra liberalism and "new way of life" (read: women rather do abortions and not volunteer to be a mother, pursues a carrier and rather live alone) wreaking havoc.

Coming soon to USA.
flowerforyou I mean even if that information really is true and really does happen, I still don't see nothing new about it, since populations groups have always been shifting around like that.flowerforyou Not sure why it isnt natural for that to happen and that is assuming for the sake of this discussion that information is accurate.flowerforyou


Globalisation. People from the Middle-East have been immigrating to Europe for better life for the past decade or so.

Although Europe did have a Muslim rule about 500 years ago, for 150 years, Eastern Europe and the Balkans were under the control of the Ottoman Turks (and yet, only a small portion of the people turned muslim) , so it's not new there (but again, there is no islamic immigration to eastern Europe right now) . What new is having them in Western and Northern Europe. On the other hand, there is a sense of propaganda in the movie, since it's inaccurate to say that a population cannot reverse a decline.
The Mongolian Invasion wiped out more than 7/8 of the population in Ukraine, Russia, and Hungary back in the 13th century, and yet the population re-emerged withing 2-3 generations.
flowerforyou But what does it matter is what I am saying?flowerforyou So what does it mean?flowerforyou

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Wed 06/17/09 11:20 PM
modela, the video provided is biased and untrue and i believe your hatred stems from how morally superior we are to everyone else.

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Wed 06/17/09 11:46 PM

You need to watch this and take it to heart! This should be a wake-up call, but it probably won't be. Remember Islam is more than a religion, it is a way of life. Once in control, no deviation from their way will be tolerated...!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU



I disagree with this - only their way will be tolerated. There are many good people that are Muslim. They have their extremists just like Christianity has their extremists.

Most of the Bosnians that came to the U.S. came to St. Louis. Some are Christians and some are Muslims. That increased the Muslim population in St. Louis. They are becoming Americanized. They don't bother people and try to convert them.

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Thu 06/18/09 12:04 AM
scared When the reptilian aliens invade the Earth in 2012 we are all going to be chow anywaysscared

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Thu 06/18/09 01:08 AM

scared When the reptilian aliens invade the Earth in 2012 we are all going to be chow anywaysscared


Not if they are chow first.pitchfork

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Thu 06/18/09 06:00 AM

scared When the reptilian aliens invade the Earth in 2012 we are all going to be chow anywaysscared



The Day the Earth stood still by Keanu Reeves is a great movie to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IQkPpukEBA&feature=fvw

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Thu 06/18/09 06:54 AM
I would like to see the historic data as to which cultures were extingushed by the formulas they put forth in the video.

It is interesting, yet as it appears in the video, the European nation and the British nation are already too late to "save". so, I guess there is nothing that can be done there..

The world and the birth rate has been changing for a long time, even within the Catholic community that follow the 'rules' for reproduction.

The aging of America is really old news as the Baby Boomer effect has been in the news for years and years now and the prediction of the size of the work force has been talked about for many years. The major difference I hear in this video is that it is really targeting the Muslim communities (maybe they mean the Islamic or Hindu) and the immigration that has been allowed in certain areas of the world.

I also wonder if all of the "Muslims" they are talking about are non-Christian because in the church I attend we do have people who are Eastern...and many times people just group people who look the same into one basket...

it kind of reminds me of the cold war speeches in a way...yet, if they have their facts right (which I have no idea if they do or not) there will indeed be changes in the world...

and in most cases,according to the video...it is too late to change the direction of the population, and as implied by the video the world will then be followers of the Islamic faith...




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Thu 06/18/09 11:29 AM
flowerforyou These demographics don't scare me.flowerforyou

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Thu 06/18/09 11:31 AM


scared When the reptilian aliens invade the Earth in 2012 we are all going to be chow anywaysscared


Not if they are chow first.pitchfork
:smile: That is your plan for stopping the draconians?:smile: Eat them before we are eaten?:smile: