That is a good one eh? LOL. If only it were on billboards and buses all across America...then we'd have a smarter society.

logic? because some stories are make believe, all stories probably are make believe,,,,,


shrugs,,,interesting logic

why stop there, why not just say on that day remember everything your parents told you,,,,period


why not kill all faith or belief in anything we are told or anything we learn in childhood that we didnt actually witness, see, hear, feel , taste, or touch ourselves,,,?

Why we should ditch religion?

WE shouldnt. Religion should be a personal and private choice reserved for the individual.

Why an individual should ditch religion?

because they want to

No matter what religion one chooses theres always someone to say what they think is right.

thats true, but we all need a moral compass of SOME SORT to help us make good choices in life

No we wouldn't. People, on the whole, aren't that smart.

That's just fine but we have Christians in this country bent on imposing their "right", and humanity has greatly suffered because of it. Not only are the Christians dumbing down America (creationism) they also helped elect a monster (GW BUSH) that has killed thousands of our troops, maimed 30K+, and killled over a million Arabs in illegal wars...helped ruin our economy and violated our Constitution. Thumpers are a threat to our country and it's Constitution.

They can see no wrong in their ways and will not accept responsibility for their damages. They don't change, they just "forgive" themselves or say it must have been "god's will"...how immature is that?

What's right is for science and common sense to help lead the way, end the wars, stop discriminations, GOOD education..etc.

We've had this ball and chain called religosity for way too long. Something's got to give. People need to grow up and quit believing in the Tooth Fairy already.




Did you know that Hitler was a Christian...WOW huh?

No..because some stories are make believe, all stories should be suspected of being make believe.

And yeah, on that day, one should remember everything one's parents told one. Discover the veracity, or the lack therof, of what one has been told for one's self. It's called independant thought. More people should try it.

I'm a big fan of the idea of killing all faith.

Actually, that works for me.

That much is certainly true.
Personally, I like empathy, sympathy, and logic.

Not me, the Constitution covers that...like John said, "whatever get's people through their lives is fine" (sic)...buuuut, when they invade our secular government and impose stupidity I will strongly resist.

For example the Constitution says that one's religion shall not be a test of their ability to serve in public office....SO why would anyone ever ask a candidate what religion they are? And WHY would a politician be required to disclose it...or tout it in any way?

Politicians are running on their faith for the faithful's vote...do ya think they represent me then? Not a chance...It's all fixed...and unfair.

It's just stupid...lol..but you see the thumpers think you can't be moral without a religion...they like to judge...and as I see on these pages that anything they don't understand they just create confusion on the subject as a defense...how lame eh? It hurts my brain that they are so brain damaged from religious teachings.

Yeah, and the 'religious' Mr Blair helped poke the nest. But it's OK, because Mr Blair said he though it was what god wanted him to do. I guess the crusaders thought something very similar as they put tens and hundreds of thousands of muslims to death during the crusades.

Actually, I think anyone with religious beliefs who has the potential to become as powerful as a president or prime minister should be banned from office in any government in the world. The only religion that has a positive effect with regards to peace and co-operation would seem to be buddhists. Imagine the Dalai Llama running the world. I think things might be a little better (and no, I'm not a buddhist!).

iam 100% pro evolution and i am proud of it.

Im proud to live where people are free to believe in what they choose, whether it comes from their experience, their parents, their friends, or a book(even a religious book)

Getting back to the OP.

I think the first thing we should do is make a distinction between 'religions' that claim to speak for Gods, and 'spiritual philosophies' that simply suggest that our true essence may be eternal spirit.

This crap of putting all 'religions' on the same footing, or treating them all like as if they represent the same ideologies is quite narrow-minded and unproductive.

For example, all of the Abrahamic religions are based on a Zeus-like Godhead and claim to represent "His Commandments" and his directives, etc.

Those are truly fairytale-like mythologies based on unproven God and they claim to speak for those unproven Gods.

However, many Mystical Religions are actually more like just a spiritual philosophy that suggests that we are eternal spirit. They don't claim to speak for any egotistical Gods.

Once we get rid of these religions that are based on jealous egotistical Gods the vast majority of problems that come from religion will be gone.

Just look at the religion forums. What do they amount to most of the time? People attempting to argue for the authority of the God of their religion. Get rid of that authoritarian approach to religion with hateful Gods who condemn everyone who doesn't believe in them, and allow religion to become a more intellectual spiritual philosophy, then religion won't be such a horrible thing anymore.

We just need to get rid of this false egotistical jealous Gods who supposedly hate everyone who refuses to worship them.

That's the only REAL PROBLEM with religions when it comes right down to it.

Ban all religions that claim to be based on egotistical jealous Gods who condemn those who don't believe in them, and we'd clean up our spirituality immensely and move on to a far more positive future.

There's no need to condemn spiritual philosophies in general.

I'm convinced 100% that evolution is true based on the evidence.

I'm no more proud of evolution than I am of the fact that the Earth goes around the son.

I had nothing to do with either situation. They're just facts.

They are theories and observations, they are not FACTS. That is why the title itself is the "Theory" of evolution.

I'm talking about the observations. I've seen enough observations to be convinced that evolution is a fact. They've even observed evolution actually taking place in the lab. So they've even observed evolution in action.

The theory just explains it, but the evidence proves it.

Evolution is a proven fact as far as I'm concerned. We have more than enough evidence to make that conclusion with absolute confidence, IMHO.

Your millage may vary. To each their own.

You may be convinced they are facts, but still nevertheless they are not facts. Just using your same defence as you do, cause to me I know for a fact God is real, there is plenty of evidence in every way. Cause regardless of how much there may be proof for either side, it all boils down to personal perspective and how each one of us sees it. NO ONE can "prove for a fact" that we evolved from lower life forms, and NO ONE can "prove for a fact" that God created us. It all boils down to what you want to see as truth.