Topic: Do You believe in Magic?
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Wed 06/09/10 03:33 PM

Karma has a lot to do with love and relationships, Right? So if someone can be said to be 'Lucky in Love' would that tend to indicate 'Good karma'?



There is no such thing as luck. The term "luck in Love" probably just means that the guy has personal magnetism, or that he just gets laid a lot. LOL

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Wed 06/09/10 03:33 PM







ohwell NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAY!
As in impossible?
as in everybody is free to choose what they wish to believe in :wink:
I choose to believe in GOD glasses



And God is not magic?


Nope, God is natural.
God is Everything.


Amen and everything is natural. There is no such thing as supernatural.

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Wed 06/09/10 03:36 PM








ohwell NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAY!
As in impossible?
as in everybody is free to choose what they wish to believe in :wink:
I choose to believe in GOD glasses



And God is not magic?


Nope, God is natural.
God is Everything.


Amen and everything is natural. There is no such thing as supernatural.
Exactly! And all quite normal.

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Wed 06/09/10 03:40 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 06/09/10 03:41 PM
What appears to be magic are creative intentions at work which seem to be very magical. All so-called magic and ritual is merely a means by which a person creates belief in that which they have petitioned (themselves, God or the creative universe) for. The ritual itself is powerless; as are all symbols and charms.

A symbol has no meaning or power except for what the conscious and unconscious mind has given it. They are hypnotic shortcuts to the subconscious that serve to jump start the visual pictures required to manifest desires and intentions.

Where the appearance of magic comes in is that all of life is connected in a holographic type of reality where every action has an effect on everything else.

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Wed 06/09/10 03:43 PM

What appears to be magic are creative intentions at work which seem to be very magical. All so-called magic and ritual is merely a means by which a person creates belief in that which they have petitioned (themselves, God or the creative universe) for. The ritual itself is powerless; as are all symbols and charms.

A symbol has no meaning or power except for what the conscious and unconscious mind has given it. They are hypnotic shortcuts to the subconscious that serve to jump start the visual pictures required to manifest desires and intentions.

Where the appearance of magic comes in is that all of life is connected in a holographic type of reality where every action has an effect on everything else.

Oh My! that was good!

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Wed 06/09/10 03:47 PM

God is Everything.


Truly. flowerforyou

As far as Karma goes, just realize that Karms simply means Actions.

You are constantly creating new karma with every action you chose to take. So in a very real sense your karma is in your hands.

Don't be thinking of karma as something that going to haunt you from your past. Think of karma as something you create right NOW that affects your future.

Of course your past actions may indeed have caused problems in your life. And you'll have to deal with the results of that "Karma" (of those previous actions). But just the same, you are still fully empowered to begin creating NEW KARMA (new actions) that will become the "past" of your new future.

So just realize that Karma=actions. And you are constantly creating new karma with every action you take. Keep this up long enough, and eventaully and bad karma (bad actions) that you may have taken in the past, will be so far behind you that they will no longer affect your NOW, or your future.

So always view Karma as something that you are continually creating NOW. Not as some mysterious baggage that's going to dictate your future or follow you around looking for a chance to pay you back.

The only way that is likely to happen is if you have done things in the past that may eventually catch up with you, like having robbed a bank or whatever. That kind of Karma (action) may very well catch up with you. But don't feel like every stupid thing you ever did will eventually come back to haunt you. That's NOT what karma is.

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Wed 06/09/10 03:49 PM
Lady, I understand.

My belief is karma like but I have no specific belief and I don't believe in one entity especially a male only one that controls everything.

I do agree with the fact that our attitudes and thoughts are mirrored in our world around us. So if we want a good world we have to be everything we want our world to be.

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Wed 06/09/10 03:51 PM


God is Everything.


Truly. flowerforyou

As far as Karma goes, just realize that Karms simply means Actions.

You are constantly creating new karma with every action you chose to take. So in a very real sense your karma is in your hands.

Don't be thinking of karma as something that going to haunt you from your past. Think of karma as something you create right NOW that affects your future.

Of course your past actions may indeed have caused problems in your life. And you'll have to deal with the results of that "Karma" (of those previous actions). But just the same, you are still fully empowered to begin creating NEW KARMA (new actions) that will become the "past" of your new future.

So just realize that Karma=actions. And you are constantly creating new karma with every action you take. Keep this up long enough, and eventaully and bad karma (bad actions) that you may have taken in the past, will be so far behind you that they will no longer affect your NOW, or your future.

So always view Karma as something that you are continually creating NOW. Not as some mysterious baggage that's going to dictate your future or follow you around looking for a chance to pay you back.

The only way that is likely to happen is if you have done things in the past that may eventually catch up with you, like having robbed a bank or whatever. That kind of Karma (action) may very well catch up with you. But don't feel like every stupid thing you ever did will eventually come back to haunt you. That's NOT what karma is.
Sounds true,How do You know, Though

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Wed 06/09/10 03:52 PM

Oh My! that was good!


Yeah, Jeannie's good.

She knows what going down. bigsmile

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Wed 06/09/10 03:57 PM

Sounds true,How do You know, Though


I'm sorry. I didn't mean to claim to "know". I'm just sharing my understanding as I have learned it from Buddhist teachers.

It just makes common sense to me, so I thought I would share that with you.

Does it represent absolute truth? Your guess is as good as mine.

All I mean to convey is that it makes sense to me. bigsmile

What really helped me understand this idea was when it was pointed out to me by a Buddhist sage that the word Karma simply means Action.

That simple insight right there unravels a lot of the mystery of karma, at least for me.

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Wed 06/09/10 04:01 PM


Sounds true,How do You know, Though


I'm sorry. I didn't mean to claim to "know". I'm just sharing my understanding as I have learned it from Buddhist teachers.

It just makes common sense to me, so I thought I would share that with you.

Does it represent absolute truth? Your guess is as good as mine.

All I mean to convey is that it makes sense to me. bigsmile

What really helped me understand this idea was when it was pointed out to me by a Buddhist sage that the word Karma simply means Action.

That simple insight right there unravels a lot of the mystery of karma, at least for me.
No I just wanted to know the source of Your Knowledge.

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Wed 06/09/10 04:01 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 06/09/10 04:05 PM


God is Everything.


Truly. flowerforyou

As far as Karma goes, just realize that Karms simply means Actions.

You are constantly creating new karma with every action you chose to take. So in a very real sense your karma is in your hands.

Don't be thinking of karma as something that going to haunt you from your past. Think of karma as something you create right NOW that affects your future.

Of course your past actions may indeed have caused problems in your life. And you'll have to deal with the results of that "Karma" (of those previous actions). But just the same, you are still fully empowered to begin creating NEW KARMA (new actions) that will become the "past" of your new future.

So just realize that Karma=actions. And you are constantly creating new karma with every action you take. Keep this up long enough, and eventaully and bad karma (bad actions) that you may have taken in the past, will be so far behind you that they will no longer affect your NOW, or your future.

So always view Karma as something that you are continually creating NOW. Not as some mysterious baggage that's going to dictate your future or follow you around looking for a chance to pay you back.

The only way that is likely to happen is if you have done things in the past that may eventually catch up with you, like having robbed a bank or whatever. That kind of Karma (action) may very well catch up with you. But don't feel like every stupid thing you ever did will eventually come back to haunt you. That's NOT what karma is.



I disagree that Karma = actions. Karma is/are the consequences of actions.

You have heard of good karma and bad karma. There is another kind of Karma I have learned about. I call it "stupid karma."

Or, to be more politically correct, you can call it ignorant karma.

It is when you do something stupid and reap the consequences. For example, you forget to set the break on your car and it rolls down the hill and crashes into a guy's living room and kills his wife and the guy comes after you with a shotgun cause he's angry.

That's Stupid karma.

Where stupid karma has happened, you will always here the cry: "I didn't mean to hurt you!" "It was an accident, it wasn't my fault."

In truth, ignorant karma is not as bad as stupid karma, because with ignorant karma the ignorant person has no idea why his life sucks.

With stupid karma, the guy knows why his life sucks. -- Cause he made a stupid mistake.


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Wed 06/09/10 04:06 PM

I disagree that Karma = actions. Karma is/are the consequences of actions.


Ok, well, I'm in agreement with this.

Actions have consequences, so I was speaking as though that was a given.

Yes, of course, is is the consequences of the actions that becomes the "Karma" in a sense. But it's the Actions themselves the "Create" the Karma.

Hows that?

I was more focused on what "creates" these consequences.

But technically, the word Karma means "actions". That's really what I meant.

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Wed 06/09/10 04:09 PM

P.S. And pretty much all of your stupid and ignorant karma WILL come back to you, so don't make the mistake of thinking you can outrun it.

There is a way, however to get rid of that bad and stupid Karma. Learn by your mistakes. You may have to pay a few fines along the way, but if you learn by your mistakes you will stop creating bad or stupid karma.

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Wed 06/09/10 04:24 PM
I really appreciate ALL the input, and thoughts. I learned a lot.

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Wed 06/09/10 04:26 PM
Keep asking questions and seeking..so much fascinating stuff to learn about out of the mainstream...were here to evolve, the old ways don't satisfy nor serve us anymore. drinker

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Wed 06/09/10 04:26 PM

No I just wanted to know the source of Your Knowledge.


Well, there are many sources.

The most productive source I can share would be the lectures given by Deepak Chopra. I own a whole lot of his videos, so it's hard for me to point to any particular one as being the best for the topic of karma. But I think he addresses this concept in many of his lectures.

I could also suggest books on witchcraft, but in those books it's far less obvious that they are actually speaking about 'karma' because they may not use that term directly. They just address similar concepts as their lessons unfold. So the insight from those lessons came from reading large sections of material.

I also learned about this concept in my studies of the Qabalah. But again, this insight came from a much larger picture and I can't just point to a simple exerpt that would boil it down to the simple description I've already given.

In short, I didn't really gain this insight from any single source. I've seen various explanations from many different types of philosophies. But even the Bible uses the common phrase, "We reap what we sow". Of course, that was known to many sages even before biblical times. When you stop and think about it, it's just common sense.

There is also a good college lecture on video by The Teaching Company. It's on the history of Buddhism. That course is 24-lecures long and the topic of Karma is explained there as well.

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Wed 06/09/10 04:32 PM


P.S. And pretty much all of your stupid and ignorant karma WILL come back to you, so don't make the mistake of thinking you can outrun it.

There is a way, however to get rid of that bad and stupid Karma. Learn by your mistakes. You may have to pay a few fines along the way, but if you learn by your mistakes you will stop creating bad or stupid karma.



I'm afraid that I'm the Master of creating stupid karma. Even though I understand the concept and how it works, I still continue to create stupid karma. I've come to the conclusion that I'm just stupid. laugh

Now the real question is whether there is any "New Karma" I can create that will magically transform my stupidity into brilliance?

Run that question through your tarot cards and lemmie know what you find. flowers

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Wed 06/09/10 04:32 PM


No I just wanted to know the source of Your Knowledge.


Well, there are many sources.

The most productive source I can share would be the lectures given by Deepak Chopra. I own a whole lot of his videos, so it's hard for me to point to any particular one as being the best for the topic of karma. But I think he addresses this concept in many of his lectures.

I could also suggest books on witchcraft, but in those books it's far less obvious that they are actually speaking about 'karma' because they may not use that term directly. They just address similar concepts as their lessons unfold. So the insight from those lessons came from reading large sections of material.

I also learned about this concept in my studies of the Qabalah. But again, this insight came from a much larger picture and I can't just point to a simple exerpt that would boil it down to the simple description I've already given.

In short, I didn't really gain this insight from any single source. I've seen various explanations from many different types of philosophies. But even the Bible uses the common phrase, "We reap what we sow". Of course, that was known to many sages even before biblical times. When you stop and think about it, it's just common sense.

There is also a good college lecture on video by The Teaching Company. It's on the history of Buddhism. That course is 24-lecures long and the topic of Karma is explained there as well.
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Wed 06/09/10 04:32 PM
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