Topic: Do You believe in Magic?
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Wed 06/09/10 04:33 PM
I love Deepak..it was the reading of 'The Seven Laws To Spiritual Success' many years ago that first peaked my interest.
Also the 'Seth' series and Abraham-Hicks...
my personal practice is Peruvian Shamanism

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Wed 06/09/10 04:35 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 06/09/10 04:37 PM
What is Your take on: 'ritual Magick of the Golden Dawn'?


I have been curious about that myself so I recently applied for and was accepted into a mystery school called Servants of the Light. I can't give an evaluation about it yet, but it is along the lines of meditation and visualization, symbols, tarot etc.

I am also a tarot card reader. I designed my own deck.

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Wed 06/09/10 04:45 PM

What is Your take on: 'ritual Magick of the Golden Dawn'?


I have been curious about that myself so I recently applied for and was accepted into a mystery school called Servants of the Light. I can't give an evaluation about it yet, but it is along the lines of meditation and visualization, symbols, tarot etc.

I am also a tarot card reader. I designed my own deck.
They are absolutely gorgeous!

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Wed 06/09/10 04:50 PM


What is Your take on: 'ritual Magick of the Golden Dawn'?


I have been curious about that myself so I recently applied for and was accepted into a mystery school called Servants of the Light. I can't give an evaluation about it yet, but it is along the lines of meditation and visualization, symbols, tarot etc.

I am also a tarot card reader. I designed my own deck.
They are absolutely gorgeous!


Thank you! The mystery school I have entered is centered around how the symbolism of the tarot relates to magick.

"The First Degree correspondence course uses Qabalistic, Arthurian and Tarot symbolism to open the doors of inner perception. It is designed to give the student a comprehensive and thorough training in the Mysteries. The symbol of the First Degree is the Bee, symbol of selfless service to the whole."


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Wed 06/09/10 04:53 PM



What is Your take on: 'ritual Magick of the Golden Dawn'?


I have been curious about that myself so I recently applied for and was accepted into a mystery school called Servants of the Light. I can't give an evaluation about it yet, but it is along the lines of meditation and visualization, symbols, tarot etc.

I am also a tarot card reader. I designed my own deck.
They are absolutely gorgeous!


Thank you! The mystery school I have entered is centered around how the symbolism of the tarot relates to magick.

"The First Degree correspondence course uses Qabalistic, Arthurian and Tarot symbolism to open the doors of inner perception. It is designed to give the student a comprehensive and thorough training in the Mysteries. The symbol of the First Degree is the Bee, symbol of selfless service to the whole."


How many degrees possible?

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Wed 06/09/10 04:55 PM




What is Your take on: 'ritual Magick of the Golden Dawn'?


I have been curious about that myself so I recently applied for and was accepted into a mystery school called Servants of the Light. I can't give an evaluation about it yet, but it is along the lines of meditation and visualization, symbols, tarot etc.

I am also a tarot card reader. I designed my own deck.
They are absolutely gorgeous!


Thank you! The mystery school I have entered is centered around how the symbolism of the tarot relates to magick.

"The First Degree correspondence course uses Qabalistic, Arthurian and Tarot symbolism to open the doors of inner perception. It is designed to give the student a comprehensive and thorough training in the Mysteries. The symbol of the First Degree is the Bee, symbol of selfless service to the whole."


How many degrees possible?


Three I believe:

The Second Degree is the Inner Court of the Servants of the Light. It is open to those who have completed the First Degree course and want to use what they have learnt in order to go even deeper. The Second Degree course is based on a very ancient form of high-level Inner Plane work. The symbol of the Second Degree is the Wheat-sheaf, symbol of harvest on all levels.

The Third Degree is also called The House of the Amethyst. It is the Adytum of the Servants of the Light. Membership is by invitation only.

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Wed 06/09/10 05:02 PM





What is Your take on: 'ritual Magick of the Golden Dawn'?


I have been curious about that myself so I recently applied for and was accepted into a mystery school called Servants of the Light. I can't give an evaluation about it yet, but it is along the lines of meditation and visualization, symbols, tarot etc.

I am also a tarot card reader. I designed my own deck.
They are absolutely gorgeous!


Thank you! The mystery school I have entered is centered around how the symbolism of the tarot relates to magick.

"The First Degree correspondence course uses Qabalistic, Arthurian and Tarot symbolism to open the doors of inner perception. It is designed to give the student a comprehensive and thorough training in the Mysteries. The symbol of the First Degree is the Bee, symbol of selfless service to the whole."


How many degrees possible?


Three I believe:

The Second Degree is the Inner Court of the Servants of the Light. It is open to those who have completed the First Degree course and want to use what they have learnt in order to go even deeper. The Second Degree course is based on a very ancient form of high-level Inner Plane work. The symbol of the Second Degree is the Wheat-sheaf, symbol of harvest on all levels.

The Third Degree is also called The House of the Amethyst. It is the Adytum of the Servants of the Light. Membership is by invitation only.
Adytum, as in:Builders of the Adytum, the church?

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Wed 06/09/10 05:16 PM






What is Your take on: 'ritual Magick of the Golden Dawn'?


I have been curious about that myself so I recently applied for and was accepted into a mystery school called Servants of the Light. I can't give an evaluation about it yet, but it is along the lines of meditation and visualization, symbols, tarot etc.

I am also a tarot card reader. I designed my own deck.
They are absolutely gorgeous!


Thank you! The mystery school I have entered is centered around how the symbolism of the tarot relates to magick.

"The First Degree correspondence course uses Qabalistic, Arthurian and Tarot symbolism to open the doors of inner perception. It is designed to give the student a comprehensive and thorough training in the Mysteries. The symbol of the First Degree is the Bee, symbol of selfless service to the whole."


How many degrees possible?


Three I believe:

The Second Degree is the Inner Court of the Servants of the Light. It is open to those who have completed the First Degree course and want to use what they have learnt in order to go even deeper. The Second Degree course is based on a very ancient form of high-level Inner Plane work. The symbol of the Second Degree is the Wheat-sheaf, symbol of harvest on all levels.

The Third Degree is also called The House of the Amethyst. It is the Adytum of the Servants of the Light. Membership is by invitation only.
Adytum, as in:Builders of the Adytum, the church?


I have no idea what that means, I just copied it and pasted it. I have just started this course.


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Wed 06/09/10 05:19 PM

It could all be a bunch of ritual bull for all I know. I just happened to like the feel and philosophy of this mystery school. I will see what is to be learned there.


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Wed 06/09/10 05:33 PM

What is Your take on: 'ritual Magick of the Golden Dawn'?


I've had several people recommend that I look into the Golden Dawn and I never really have. I'm not completely in the dark about them though. Christopher Penczak refers to them quite often in his book, "The Temple of High Witchcraft", which I have read and studied in some detail, and continue to do so.

I've also read a lot of information concerning the Qabalah which is a lot of what the Golden Dawn draws on, among other sources. In fact, I've become quite extensively involved with the Qabalah to the point of designing my own Qabalah. That may sound strange to some people, but this is what all the magi do, including the Golden Dawn.

Of course my design isn't all that different and is indeed based upon the same foundational principles of all versions of it. It's basically just a reality map and for this reason should be modified by the "traveler" who is using it. My version is 'reflected' in the waters of Briah and Yesod. It's a personal map which I don't expect other people to identify with, but I'll post it here just to give an idea of what it looks like:



Ideally I would like to make an artistic painting of it someday that won't look anything at all like this schematic graphic.

As you can see, I've also including the Tarot in this map, and those connections also are unique to me and of my own personal design.

From this reality map I moved forward and created something I call, The Labyrinth Way which is a combination of Tarot, the Zodiac, and the Planet Gods/Goddesses all arranged along a Laybrinth Path that leads to an Inner Circle which contains other elements of the Qabalah and Faery Teachings.

I really should publish all of this work to share with other people. It's quite a positive and constructive system that would be highly beneficial for many people whether they believe in magick or are simple looking for a positive and constructive system of introspection.



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Wed 06/09/10 06:09 PM
Magic, as it's conceptualized as a complex force that can be manipulated or at least felt by humans, is equally absurd as a sky daddy or a flying spaghetti monster.

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Wed 06/09/10 06:12 PM

Magic, as it's conceptualized as a complex force that can be manipulated or at least felt by humans, is equally absurd as a sky daddy or a flying spaghetti monster.


You only say that because you have no idea what magic is. laugh :tongue:


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Wed 06/09/10 06:17 PM


Magic, as it's conceptualized as a complex force that can be manipulated or at least felt by humans, is equally absurd as a sky daddy or a flying spaghetti monster.


You only say that because you have no idea what magic is. laugh :tongue:




and you say there is because you conceptualize reality and what is natural occurrences with the supernatural.

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Wed 06/09/10 06:20 PM



Magic, as it's conceptualized as a complex force that can be manipulated or at least felt by humans, is equally absurd as a sky daddy or a flying spaghetti monster.


You only say that because you have no idea what magic is. laugh :tongue:




and you say there is because you conceptualize reality and what is natural occurrences with the supernatural.


I have NEVER implied that "Magic" is anything but natural. It is NOT supernatural. You assume too much because you don't know anything about it.


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Wed 06/09/10 06:24 PM




Magic, as it's conceptualized as a complex force that can be manipulated or at least felt by humans, is equally absurd as a sky daddy or a flying spaghetti monster.


You only say that because you have no idea what magic is. laugh :tongue:




and you say there is because you conceptualize reality and what is natural occurrences with the supernatural.


I have NEVER implied that "Magic" is anything but natural. It is NOT supernatural. You assume too much because you don't know anything about it.


My point is that you label completely natural events as "magic." You start chanting in a tree or something, get a warm fuzzy feeling in your stomach, and say it's a spirit flowing into you or some other thing. The world is amazing, and there's much we don't know about it still, but that doesn't mean that it's magic.

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Wed 06/09/10 06:27 PM

Magic, as it's conceptualized as a complex force that can be manipulated or at least felt by humans, is equally absurd as a sky daddy or a flying spaghetti monster.


Because you don't believe in magic, understand it or make magic in your own life (intentionally) does not make it unreal... magic happens all the time. How sad you choose to dismiss the idea before learning about it. Magic is more than chanting in a tree..although that's a good place to start.

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Wed 06/09/10 06:29 PM


Magic, as it's conceptualized as a complex force that can be manipulated or at least felt by humans, is equally absurd as a sky daddy or a flying spaghetti monster.


Because you don't believe in magic, understand it or make magic in your own life (intentionally) does not make it unreal... magic happens all the time. How sad you choose to dismiss the idea before learning about it. Magic is more than chanting in a tree..although that's a good place to start.


Hey, i can insult you too... watch.

How sad that you choose to try to paint your life with this fake brush, instead of accepting it for it's actual state. How sad that you see it as this place with pixies and fairies, instead of valuing the aspects of life that are REAL and Valuable.

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Wed 06/09/10 06:31 PM





Magic, as it's conceptualized as a complex force that can be manipulated or at least felt by humans, is equally absurd as a sky daddy or a flying spaghetti monster.


You only say that because you have no idea what magic is. laugh :tongue:




and you say there is because you conceptualize reality and what is natural occurrences with the supernatural.


I have NEVER implied that "Magic" is anything but natural. It is NOT supernatural. You assume too much because you don't know anything about it.


My point is that you label completely natural events as "magic." You start chanting in a tree or something, get a warm fuzzy feeling in your stomach, and say it's a spirit flowing into you or some other thing. The world is amazing, and there's much we don't know about it still, but that doesn't mean that it's magic.


I think you have me confused with someone else. But I see where you are going. Yes there are people who do such things.

Its up to you whether you call something "magic" or not. I think astral projection is natural but some people call it magic. I have done it so I know it is real.

Everything is "natural." Its the odd things we don't understand that people call supernatural. There are a lot of those too. But in the end they will all be understood as natural.

I practice natural and practical magic and I study the nature of reality. It is not what you think it is. In fact it is totally freaky.




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Wed 06/09/10 06:34 PM



Magic, as it's conceptualized as a complex force that can be manipulated or at least felt by humans, is equally absurd as a sky daddy or a flying spaghetti monster.


Because you don't believe in magic, understand it or make magic in your own life (intentionally) does not make it unreal... magic happens all the time. How sad you choose to dismiss the idea before learning about it. Magic is more than chanting in a tree..although that's a good place to start.


Hey, i can insult you too... watch.

How sad that you choose to try to paint your life with this fake brush, instead of accepting it for it's actual state. How sad that you see it as this place with pixies and fairies, instead of valuing the aspects of life that are REAL and Valuable.


It wasn't an insult, if ya took it that way and fell better now than that's good.

I don't see my life as pixies and fairies..it's all an illusion, my life, your life, none of it's really real. What each of us value or find valuable is subjective.

We each get to paint out own lives with whatever brush we choose, that's the magical part.

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Wed 06/09/10 06:38 PM

The difference

"Stupid" vs "Ignorant" Karma.

Stupid Karma will come back to you and you will suffer because you know your life sucks because of your stupidity.

Ignorant Karma will come back to you but you are clueless as to why your life sucks, but at least you will suffer less mental anguish. You will just think you are unlucky or a victim.