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IF a god existed, and it was the Abrahamic god of Judaism, Christianity, and/or Islam.. I'd ask him why he feels he deserves worship, when it's obvious that humans have surpassed him morally.  as i posted in the other topic, jews at any rate do not believe God has a corporeal form or a gender....and since god is considered to be the standard of morality then you would be confused on all counts. but god is merciful so you are forgiven. http://www.jewfaq.org/g-d.htm =-=-=-= G-d is Incorporeal Although many places in scripture and Talmud speak of various parts of G-d's body (the Hand of G-d, G-d's wings, etc.) or speak of G-d in anthropomorphic terms (G-d walking in the garden of Eden, G-d laying tefillin, etc.), Judaism firmly maintains that G-d has no body. Any reference to G-d's body is simply a figure of speech, a means of making G-d's actions more comprehensible to beings living in a material world. Much of Rambam's Guide for the Perplexed is devoted to explaining each of these anthropomorphic references and proving that they should be understood figuratively. G-d is Neither Male nor Female This followed directly from the fact that G-d has no physical form. As one rabbi explained it to me, G-d has no body, no genitalia, therefore the very idea that G-d is male or female is patently absurd. We refer to G-d using masculine terms simply for convenience's sake, because Hebrew has no neutral gender; G-d is no more male than a table is. Although we usually speak of G-d in masculine terms, there are times when we refer to G-d using feminine terms. The Shechinah, the manifestation of G-d's presence that fills the universe, is conceived of in feminine terms, and the word Shechinah is a feminine word. |
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If God were really standing right in front of you... I'll ask him if he's an atheist |
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I don't think anyone can see God. He is everywhere; if you want to see him, he's got to take shape SOMEWHRERE. Which means he is concentrated in one spot, and the other spots in infinite space are not occupied by god.
That's dead against his contractual assignment. If he's not everywhere at the same time (omnipresent), he can get fired and he knows that. So he just does not show up anywhere, for fear of snitches who'll tell they saw god, and then look at Him, He has to look for another job. In this economy. |
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I don't think anyone can see God. He is everywhere; if you want to see him, he's got to take shape SOMEWHRERE. Which means he is concentrated in one spot, and the other spots in infinite space are not occupied by god. That's dead against his contractual assignment. If he's not everywhere at the same time (omnipresent), he can get fired and he knows that. So he just does not show up anywhere, for fear of snitches who'll tell they saw god, and then look at Him, He has to look for another job. In this economy. God is everywhere omnipresent. God doesn't reveal himself to everyone though, God only reveals himself to those that seek him. |
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If God were really standing right in front of you... I'll ask him if he's an atheist Very interesting question indeed. 
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Do you think you would know??? Yes, and then I would check myself into mental health 
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Do you think you would know??? they didn't in dogma... |
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If God were really standing right in front of you... I'll ask him if he's an atheist Very interesting question indeed. why? do you think that god would not be self-aware? there are a lot better questions to ask than this one. |
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Do you think you would know??? they didn't in dogma... That's so true. In fact, it would be impossible to for me "obey God" since I've never met God and have no clue what he even wants from me. The only thing I have ever seen in my entire life on this planet are mortal humans all arguing with each other over what a God who plays hide-and-seek supposedly wants from. None of them can agree on what god wants from me. Many of them point to entirely different ancient scriptures and stories, etc. And even if I choose one of those to be potentially 'correct' then when I go to read it all I read are a bunch of authors basically arguing with each other via contradictions and conflicting stories. So I can't even go by these so-called "scriptures" either. I actually perfer the Eastern Mystical religions because they tend to focus on intuition as being the main "voice of god" in your life. Buddha taught to always seek out wisdom on your own and never trust any single source. I think that is very wise advice. If there is a supernatural omnipresent consciousness that expects something from me, I'm sure that consciousness is capable of communicating with me directly. No 'scriptures' written by confused conflicting mortal human authors are required. Although having said that, there's nothing wrong with reading the works of other humans to get ideas. I do that all the time. I just think it would be a truly grave mistake to limit myself to the opinions of a single culture, or collection of stories. If there is a 'god', then that 'god' is the god of everyone (all cultures), not just some select few bozos living in one little tiny spot on the Earth. |
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Do you think you would know??? they didn't in dogma... That's so true. In fact, it would be impossible to for me "obey God" since I've never met God and have no clue what he even wants from me. The only thing I have ever seen in my entire life on this planet are mortal humans all arguing with each other over what a God who plays hide-and-seek supposedly wants from. None of them can agree on what god wants from me. Many of them point to entirely different ancient scriptures and stories, etc. And even if I choose one of those to be potentially 'correct' then when I go to read it all I read are a bunch of authors basically arguing with each other via contradictions and conflicting stories. So I can't even go by these so-called "scriptures" either. I actually perfer the Eastern Mystical religions because they tend to focus on intuition as being the main "voice of god" in your life. Buddha taught to always seek out wisdom on your own and never trust any single source. I think that is very wise advice. If there is a supernatural omnipresent consciousness that expects something from me, I'm sure that consciousness is capable of communicating with me directly. No 'scriptures' written by confused conflicting mortal human authors are required. Although having said that, there's nothing wrong with reading the works of other humans to get ideas. I do that all the time. I just think it would be a truly grave mistake to limit myself to the opinions of a single culture, or collection of stories. If there is a 'god', then that 'god' is the god of everyone (all cultures), not just some select few bozos living in one little tiny spot on the Earth. obey god = behave according to guidelines of ethical and moral behavior inspired by god if you prefer eastern mysticism then why do you not see god all around you? even in scripture it is there. divine inspiration, good works, unconditional love, selfless acts of charity this form of god is not hiding! it is present in nature and in spirit and you have said you feel it. problem solved. all the scriptures and writings are just the attempts of humans to come to grips with god on a philosophical level. some may seem simplistic or even silly but they are for the most part honest attempts to codify and explain and inspire kindness and virtue. one has only to understand them and they all flow through you like whimsical thoughts. fighting with one description of god or taking issue with ancient views of philosophy or ritual is pointless - i just try to point out the folly of taking things literally and then tell them it is one god. it does not matter what religion you observe if any at all. buddha, jesus, krishna, yahweh, the fairy princess are all one and the same. be good. be thoughtful. be kind. goodness and virtue are timeless and eternal. god does not care about names or thoughts alone. it is actions. now behave!  |
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Edited by
funches
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Thu 07/08/10 06:15 AM
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If God were really standing right in front of you... I'll ask him if he's an atheist Very interesting question indeed. why? do you think that god would not be self-aware? do you think that an Atheist is not self-aware.....I'm not sure what your point is there are a lot better questions to ask than this one. s1owhand.. are you now Mingle2's official Heavenly question screener in charge of what questions someone should ask God? asking Yahweh if he is an Atheist seems like a reasonable question to ask if God did not create himself and do not believe that a God created him ....then God is an atheist if God follow no religion ...then God is an Atheist if God claim that he is a God....then God is a pantheist if God claim that he "always was" ....then God may have Alzheimers and not remember that he "always wasn't" but God is still an Atheist if God do not believe in Gods or worship any Gods.... then God is an Atheist if God do not believe that his existence was due to a God...then why would believers believe that their existence was due to one |
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asking god if god exists has two boring cases.
1. if god exists q: are you an atheist? a: no, i exist. 2. if god does not exist well then there just is not much point is asking all by yourself.
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asking god if god exists has two boring cases. 1. if god exists q: are you an atheist? a: no, i exist. if God is not an Atheist...then which God does he worship? |
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it is one god. it does not matter what religion you observe if any at all. buddha, jesus, krishna, yahweh, the fairy princess  are all one and the same. goodness and virtue are timeless and eternal. god does not care about names or thoughts alone. it is actions. I humbly bow to your infinite wisdom Great Master Guru.  |
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 God is always standing in front of Me as I do not know where I am going. My destiny is partially made by me and blessed by Him...In fact He is not only every where, but He is within my heart.
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If God were really standing right in front of you... I'll ask him if he's an atheist Very interesting question indeed. why? do you think that god would not be self-aware? there are a lot better questions to ask than this one. For once I agree with S1owhand. This was not an interesting question. Rather a question seeking a redundant answer. The answer being that God is an atheist, with no questions asked. God can not be other than an atheist. Man needs faith to believe in God. Man can't know anything but of the existence of his own self. So God is an object of what a man believes and believes in. Much like man believes that the Earth is round (based on the hearsay of his teachers), man believes that it's cold in Antarctica (based on hearsay and on TV footage), man believes that Napoleon's armies advanced to Moscow. Man believes that God exists, or not. But it's a belief. If he believes God exists, he is a theist. If he does not believe that God exists, he is an atheist. God can't do that. He knows things, he does not need faith to form a useful working model of the world in his mind. He drives on knowledge, not on faith. Even without asking God, I know He is an atheist. An atheist does not believe there is a God. God himself does not believe that he, himself, exists. He KNOWS that, therefore he does not believe. Ergo, "God does not believe that God exists (since he knows that and needs no faith to do that) therefore He is an atheist." |
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God is omnipresent so He stands more than in front of me He lives within. I make partial of my destiny in conversations within my soul and He directs my path.
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Edited by
wux
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Thu 07/08/10 09:22 AM
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God is always standing in front of Me as I do not know where I am going. If you'd politely ask Him to please step out of your way for a moment, then you could see where you were headed. If a person was blocking my view and path of movement, I would have no clue where to go and what's ahead of me. You've given us a beautiful, true, and most useful parable on the role of God in man's life in today's world. |
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God is always standing in front of Me as I do not know where I am going. My destiny is partially made by me and blessed by Him...In fact He is not only every where, but He is within my heart. You capitalized "me" in mid-sentence... bizarre. |
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God is everywhere omnipresent. God doesn't reveal himself to everyone though, God only reveals himself to those that seek him. My ex-girlfriend car keys were the same way. They were not omnipresent, but her car keys nevertheless only revealed themselves to those that sought them. |
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