Topic: How did the media miss this?
isaac_dede's photo
Tue 07/06/10 09:13 PM
Edited by isaac_dede on Tue 07/06/10 09:14 PM
Clearly proof of abuse by our troops



Soldier attempts to eat Iraqi child !



Americans force Iraqis to seesaw until they talk!



Soldier falls asleep on duty while using Iraqi child as body armor!



Clear evidence of forced labor by troops!



Iraqis grateful that American forces did not open fire during soccer game!



Soldier caught at 'tickle-torture' to extract intelligence!



American forces Iraqi child to hang by finger!



Sorry there isn't anything funny about this one

Thomas3474's photo
Tue 07/06/10 09:25 PM
drinker Excellent post!Allow me to add some more!


List of Iraq successes Thursday, December 21, 2006


"Since President Bush declared an end to major combat on May 1...

... The first battalion of the new Iraqi Army has graduated and is on active duty.
... Over 60,000 Iraqis now provide security to their fellow citizens.
... Nearly all of Iraq's 400 courts are functioning.
... The Iraqi judiciary is fully independent.
.. On Monday, October 6, power generation hit 4,518 megawatts, exceeding the prewar average.
... All 22 universities and 43 technical institutes and colleges are open, as are nearly all primary and secondary schools.
... By October 1, Coalition forces had rehab-ed over 1,500 schools - 500 more than scheduled.
... Teachers earn from 12 to 25 times their former salaries.
... All 240 hospitals and more than 1200 clinics are open.
... Doctor's salaries are at least eight times what they were under Saddam.
... Pharmaceutical distribution has gone from essentially nothing to 700 tons in May to a current total of 12,000 tons.
... The Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccination doses to Iraq's children.
... A Coalition program has cleared over 14,000 kilometers of Iraq's 27,000 kilometers of weed-choked canals which now irrigate tens of thousands of farms. This project has created jobs for more than 100,000 Iraqi men and women.
... We have restored over three-quarters of prewar telephone services and over two-thirds of the potable water production.
... There are 4,900 full-service telephone connections. We expect 50,000 by year-end.
... The wheels of commerce are turning. From bicycles to satellite dishes to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities and towns.
... 95 percent of all prewar bank customers have service and first-time customers are opening accounts daily.
... Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.
... The central bank is fully independent.
... Iraq has one of the world's most growth-oriented investment and banking laws.
... Iraq has a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.
... Satellite TV dishes are legal.
... Foreign journalists aren't on 10-day visas paying mandatory and extortionate fees to the Ministry of Information for minders and other government spies.
... There is no Ministry of Information.
... There are more than 170 newspapers.
... You can buy satellite dishes on what seems like every street corner.
... Foreign journalists (and everyone else) are free to come and go.
... A nation that had not one single element -- legislative, judicial or executive -- of a representative government now does.
... In Baghdad alone residents have selected 88 advisory councils. Baghdad's first democratic transfer of power in 35 years happened when the city council elected its new chairman.
... Today in Iraq chambers of commerce, business, school and professional organizations are electing their leaders all over the country.
... 25 ministers, selected by the most representative governing body in Iraq's history, run the day-to-day business of government.
... The Iraqi government regularly participates in international events. Since July the Iraqi government has been represented in over two dozen international meetings, including those of the UN General Assembly, the Arab League, the World Bank and IMF and, today, the Islamic Conference Summit. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs today announced that it is reopening over 30 Iraqi embassies around the world.
... Shiva religious festivals that were all but banned, aren't anymore.
... For the first time in 35 years, in Karbala thousands of Shiites celebrate the pilgrimage of the 12th Imam.
... The Coalition has completed over 13,000 reconstruction projects, large and small, as part of a strategic plan for the reconstruction of Iraq.
... Uday and Queasy are dead - and no longer feeding innocent Iraqis to the zoo lions, raping the young daughters of local leaders to force cooperation, torturing Iraq's soccer players for losing games, or murdering critics.
... Children aren't imprisoned or murdered when their parents disagree with the government.
... Political opponents aren't imprisoned, tortured, executed, maimed, or forced to watch their families die for disagreeing with Saddam.
... Millions of long-suffering Iraqis no longer live in perpetual terror.
... Saudis will hold municipal elections.
... Qatar is reforming education to give more choices to parents.
... Jordan is accelerating market economic reforms.
... The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian
-- A Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy and for peace.
.. Saddam is gone.
... Iraq is free.
….Terrorists are being drawn to an arena in which our military can kill or capture them
Sovereignty is restored to Iraq"

Thomas3474's photo
Tue 07/06/10 09:59 PM
Edited by Thomas3474 on Tue 07/06/10 10:06 PM
DoD ACCOMPLISHMENTS SINCE 2001

http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2006/sixyears/index.html

In the last six years, the Department has made great strides in modernizing its forces to address the threats of the 21st century.

I. WAR ON TERROR

Overall: A multinational coalition has liberated 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq, with formation of representative governments and security forces.
Liberated 31 million Afghans from Taliban control and destroyed Al-Qaeda sanctuary – conquering elements that successfully fought off the Soviet Union for over nine years – and stood up a Loya Jurga governing council eight months after operations began.
Liberated 26.7 million Iraqis from a brutal dictatorship and turned over sovereignty of the country to an Iraqi government in 16 months.
Recruited, Organized, Trained, and Equipped Iraqi and Afghan Security Forces:
129,000 for Iraqi Ministry of Defense
165,100 for Iraqi Ministry of Interior
33,000 for Afghan National Army
37,000 for Afghan National Police
Conducted safe and secure elections in Afghanistan and Iraq:
Elections in Iraq
January 30, 2005 election—55 percent turnout
October 15, 2005 constitutional ratification—63 percent turnout
December 15, 2005 election—78 percent turnout
March 16, 2006—permanent Iraqi Government seated
Elections in Afghanistan
October 9, 2005 election—roughly 80 percent of voters turnout
December 7, 2005—Afghan President inaugurated
Senior leadership of America’s enemies have been captured, killed, or made to run:
Khalid Sheik Mohammad, Al-Qaeda’s Director of Operations—captured March 1, 2003
Saddam Hussein’s sons—killed July 22, 2003
Saddam Hussein—captured December 13, 2003
Ali Hassan Mahmud al-Tikriti, AKA Chemical Ali—captured August 21, 2003
Al Zarqawi, leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq—killed June 7, 2006
Forty-five of fifty-five of Saddam’s top regime—the deck of cards—have been killed or captured
Conducted hundreds of intelligence and tactical operations—many with partner nations—throughout the world against terrorist organizations directly or loosely affiliated with Al-Qaeda.
NATO has expanded its reach in Afghanistan—the first time the Alliance has acted outside of its traditional boundaries.


heavenlyboy34's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:12 PM
Nice propaganda, guys! drinker laugh frustrated

heavenlyboy34's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:20 PM
http://antiwar.com/casualties/

Iraqi Casualties
Others

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq
318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan
1,152
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan
744
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq
1,457
Journalists - Iraq
338
Academics Killed - Iraq
437
Sources: DoD, MNF, and iCasualties.org


Thomas3474's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:30 PM
Heavenly there is many of us tired of hearing the non stop negative crap about both these wars.We all know there is a great deal of positive things happening there.If all you are going to do is list more negative anti American garbage in a otherwise positive post about this War then don't bother.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Tue 07/06/10 11:25 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Tue 07/06/10 11:26 PM

Heavenly there is many of us tired of hearing the non stop negative crap about both these wars.We all know there is a great deal of positive things happening there.If all you are going to do is list more negative anti American garbage in a otherwise positive post about this War then don't bother.


You realize that this is a public forum (and thus open to scrutiny), yes? Why be afraid of substantive debate? Perhaps because you will lose? :wink: laugh

misterfreeze's photo
Tue 07/06/10 11:33 PM
You know when i was in the Army. I was in Psyops it was our jobs to make these pictures and show everybody that we aren't monsters. We are Santa Claus in camo.

Don't take me wrong I love our country. I know the war. I also know about 95% ******** that I at one time helped to create.

Kleisto's photo
Wed 07/07/10 06:54 AM

You know when i was in the Army. I was in Psyops it was our jobs to make these pictures and show everybody that we aren't monsters. We are Santa Claus in camo.

Don't take me wrong I love our country. I know the war. I also know about 95% ******** that I at one time helped to create.


Interesting.......can you tell more of what you experienced?

mightymoe's photo
Wed 07/07/10 07:01 AM

http://antiwar.com/casualties/

Iraqi Casualties
Others

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq
318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan
1,152
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan
744
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq
1,457
Journalists - Iraq
338
Academics Killed - Iraq
437
Sources: DoD, MNF, and iCasualties.org




there's good and bad in everything...

Lpdon's photo
Wed 07/07/10 07:02 AM

http://antiwar.com/casualties/

Iraqi Casualties
Others

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq
318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan
1,152
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan
744
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq
1,457
Journalists - Iraq
338
Academics Killed - Iraq
437
Sources: DoD, MNF, and iCasualties.org




The benefits outweighed the risks, and still do.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 07/07/10 07:19 AM


Heavenly there is many of us tired of hearing the non stop negative crap about both these wars.We all know there is a great deal of positive things happening there.If all you are going to do is list more negative anti American garbage in a otherwise positive post about this War then don't bother.


You realize that this is a public forum (and thus open to scrutiny), yes? Why be afraid of substantive debate? Perhaps because you will lose? :wink: laugh


it's just that there are people on here that were in or are in the military, and it's not fair for you to judge them like you do... your entitled to what you believe, i respect that. but show some sympathy to the people that are doing what they think is right too. they didn't have a choice once they signed the papers.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 07/07/10 07:46 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Wed 07/07/10 08:00 AM



Heavenly there is many of us tired of hearing the non stop negative crap about both these wars.We all know there is a great deal of positive things happening there.If all you are going to do is list more negative anti American garbage in a otherwise positive post about this War then don't bother.


You realize that this is a public forum (and thus open to scrutiny), yes? Why be afraid of substantive debate? Perhaps because you will lose? :wink: laugh


it's just that there are people on here that were in or are in the military, and it's not fair for you to judge them like you do... your entitled to what you believe, i respect that. but show some sympathy to the people that are doing what they think is right too. they didn't have a choice once they signed the papers.


Don't waste your breath. Certain members here just hate our country and hate our military, sucks but it's reality.

no photo
Wed 07/07/10 07:54 AM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Wed 07/07/10 07:56 AM

http://antiwar.com/casualties/

Iraqi Casualties
Others

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq
318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan
1,152
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan
744
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq
1,457
Journalists - Iraq
338
Academics Killed - Iraq
437
Sources: DoD, MNF, and iCasualties.org



Your 'points' are Soviet-era 'peace 'n love' agitprop ...

Lpdon's photo
Wed 07/07/10 08:01 AM


http://antiwar.com/casualties/

Iraqi Casualties
Others

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq
318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan
1,152
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan
744
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq
1,457
Journalists - Iraq
338
Academics Killed - Iraq
437
Sources: DoD, MNF, and iCasualties.org



Your 'points' are Soviet-era 'peace 'n love' agitprop ...


Most contractor deaths were security forces like black water.

isaac_dede's photo
Wed 07/07/10 03:05 PM
Edited by isaac_dede on Wed 07/07/10 03:05 PM
If it is death's that you are worried about here are some real stats for you

Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600

All these in 2009

Why not fight the real killers in this country? like obesity, and tobacco use?

and these guys are only after the money.

Seems that has killed FAR FAR FAR more people than the war

heavenlyboy34's photo
Wed 07/07/10 03:16 PM


http://antiwar.com/casualties/

Iraqi Casualties
Others

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq
318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan
1,152
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan
744
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq
1,457
Journalists - Iraq
338
Academics Killed - Iraq
437
Sources: DoD, MNF, and iCasualties.org



Your 'points' are Soviet-era 'peace 'n love' agitprop ...

laugh laugh Not even close. I'm familiar with Soviet propaganda (and victims of it), which is why I don't use it. Your "points" are similar to 1940s German Nationalist Socialist war propaganda. You even use the classic demonization of dissenters and minorities, as well as using vague dogma to focus public rage on the desired target techniques (I am reminded of Joseph Goebbels here).

markumX's photo
Wed 07/07/10 03:34 PM




Heavenly there is many of us tired of hearing the non stop negative crap about both these wars.We all know there is a great deal of positive things happening there.If all you are going to do is list more negative anti American garbage in a otherwise positive post about this War then don't bother.


You realize that this is a public forum (and thus open to scrutiny), yes? Why be afraid of substantive debate? Perhaps because you will lose? :wink: laugh


it's just that there are people on here that were in or are in the military, and it's not fair for you to judge them like you do... your entitled to what you believe, i respect that. but show some sympathy to the people that are doing what they think is right too. they didn't have a choice once they signed the papers.


reality check i'm probably the only one that comes on this board that actually hates and despise your military and country..anyone else that don't agree with your propaganda and lies 99 percent of the time are free thinkers that think for themselves and are tired of the imperialism that America carries out in the guise of "freedom" and "democracy".
i would love for these photos which were taken for the sake of a photo op, to be shown to the families who american troops have destroyed and take their opinion.

Don't waste your breath. Certain members here just hate our country and hate our military, sucks but it's reality.

Redykeulous's photo
Wed 07/07/10 09:09 PM
Edited by Redykeulous on Wed 07/07/10 09:10 PM



Heavenly there is many of us tired of hearing the non stop negative crap about both these wars.We all know there is a great deal of positive things happening there.If all you are going to do is list more negative anti American garbage in a otherwise positive post about this War then don't bother.


You realize that this is a public forum (and thus open to scrutiny), yes? Why be afraid of substantive debate? Perhaps because you will lose? :wink: laugh


it's just that there are people on here that were in or are in the military, and it's not fair for you to judge them like you do... your entitled to what you believe, i respect that. but show some sympathy to the people that are doing what they think is right too. they didn't have a choice once they signed the papers.


There are many reasons why it's necessary to have a standing military, the most important of which it in defense of our land, and our freedoms.

At times it's also necessary to take the battle to more distant borders, and sometimes it's not even in defense of our country.

Those who volunteer to commit to this kind of defense would risk their life, health, thier future, and their psychological health. We owe every one of them and their families a debt of graditude.

But that's not all we owe them. We owe them the right to know what they risk their lives for. We owe them our voices when we feel that the value of their lives is not worth the battles they are thrown into.

Those who serve in the military risk their lives so that we may have the freedom of speech. Not to use our voice in their absence would be the greatest disrespect of all.

And just one other thing -
they didn't have a choice once they signed the papers.


There is always a choice. But it may be up to those at home to make it known.