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Topic: Naturally Evil Gas
number96's photo
Sun 08/01/10 09:54 PM
Thursday morning I watched a documentary on HBO about natural gas. I believe it was called 'Gas Country', incase anyone wants to see it. It was done by a young film maker who wanted to investigate problems with water caused by natural gas in the are of Pennsylvania he lives. He ended up traveling all over the mid-west.

First the problem was that the water looked dirty and tasted bad. He had test done on tap water from many homes across the mid-west and found many different chemicals that cause different health issues. Some people lost family members due to the chemicals, while many have irreversible nerve and brain damage.

A few towns actually had enough natural gas leaking into the water table that their tap water was flammable. The emissions coming of a couple of storage tanks are worse than all the traffic in L.A. on a smoggy day.

It ended up that the companies doing the drilling and recovering the gas had almost no regulations. There are NO regulations on the chemicals because the recipes they use are protected by proprietary laws. Meaning they can use what ever they want and do what they want without repercussion.

All this means that the victims have no say in what happens. They were even told that they can't do anything.

I know natural gas is a clean burning fuel, but the process to get it is the dirtiest I've seen. If we can't make the natural gas process safe, I don't mind being dependent on foreign oil. At least with foreign oil we are protected against ourselves.

kc0003's photo
Sun 08/01/10 10:03 PM
Edited by kc0003 on Sun 08/01/10 10:04 PM

Thursday morning I watched a documentary on HBO about natural gas. I believe it was called 'Gas Country', incase anyone wants to see it. It was done by a young film maker who wanted to investigate problems with water caused by natural gas in the are of Pennsylvania he lives. He ended up traveling all over the mid-west.

First the problem was that the water looked dirty and tasted bad. He had test done on tap water from many homes across the mid-west and found many different chemicals that cause different health issues. Some people lost family members due to the chemicals, while many have irreversible nerve and brain damage.

A few towns actually had enough natural gas leaking into the water table that their tap water was flammable. The emissions coming of a couple of storage tanks are worse than all the traffic in L.A. on a smoggy day.

It ended up that the companies doing the drilling and recovering the gas had almost no regulations. There are NO regulations on the chemicals because the recipes they use are protected by proprietary laws. Meaning they can use what ever they want and do what they want without repercussion.

All this means that the victims have no say in what happens. They were even told that they can't do anything.

I know natural gas is a clean burning fuel, but the process to get it is the dirtiest I've seen. If we can't make the natural gas process safe, I don't mind being dependent on foreign oil. At least with foreign oil we are protected against ourselves.


protected against ourselves! who are you kidding?

how many people have to die over "black gold" before you are convinced otherwise?

number96's photo
Sun 08/01/10 10:21 PM
We shouldn't have to transfer our fear and anger from one group of people to another when we get off crude oil! Natural gas can be recovered cleanly and safely if there are the correct regulations, and it can still create a healthy profit for the companies if done right.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather die fighting for oil than be killed because some money hungry greedy C.E.O. doesn't want to spend money on safety.

kc0003's photo
Sun 08/01/10 10:52 PM
sounds like business as usual to me

mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/01/10 10:54 PM

sounds like business as usual to me


no kidding - what else is new.

number96's photo
Sun 08/01/10 11:01 PM
Please don't tell me you're ok with that.

kc0003's photo
Sun 08/01/10 11:03 PM
does it sound like that to you?

mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/01/10 11:04 PM

Please don't tell me you're ok with that.


what do you want me to do?... i'm not ok with much.

number96's photo
Mon 08/02/10 02:27 PM
The only thing I know we can do is not use natural gas.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 08/02/10 02:43 PM

The only thing I know we can do is not use natural gas.


no problem there... i never have

Gossipmpm's photo
Mon 08/02/10 02:46 PM
don't know about these things


I'm to busy trying to find a man!:heart:








I'm sorry-really I am!!!

mightymoe's photo
Mon 08/02/10 02:50 PM

don't know about these things


I'm to busy trying to find a man!:heart:








I'm sorry-really I am!!!


ok, which one do you want?

no photo
Mon 08/02/10 02:50 PM

don't know about these things

I'm to busy trying to find a man!:heart:

I'm sorry-really I am!!!


Pssssst ... here ... over here ... I'm here ... to your right ... damn - if only you didn't live so far away ... did I tell you I have lube ... ?

Thorb's photo
Mon 08/02/10 03:15 PM
is that lube ... a crude Oil based product? ... or vegetable oil?

RoamingOrator's photo
Mon 08/02/10 03:42 PM
I thought this was going to be a thread about burrito night. spock

no photo
Mon 08/02/10 03:43 PM

is that lube ... a crude Oil based product? ... or vegetable oil?


It works. Who cares ... ? Buy some.

hmlover's photo
Mon 08/02/10 03:44 PM

I thought this was going to be a thread about burrito night. spock


It is... just a few million years later. :wink:

Thorb's photo
Mon 08/02/10 04:04 PM


is that lube ... a crude Oil based product? ... or vegetable oil?


It works. Who cares ... ? Buy some.


most people care what they use down there ...
if you don't I'm thinking you will stay lonely for along time and just have oily hands

Gossipmpm's photo
Mon 08/02/10 04:12 PM


don't know about these things

I'm to busy trying to find a man!:heart:

I'm sorry-really I am!!!


Pssssst ... here ... over here ... I'm here ... to your right ... damn - if only you didn't live so far away ... did I tell you I have lube ... ?


I swear to god!!! I can't stop laughing!!!!

I think I heard ya whisper in my ear sumthin about lube!!

Ok I'll be right there. Just wait. Haha:heart:

number96's photo
Mon 08/02/10 04:34 PM
So I'm guessing this topic is too negative for people to talk about or you just don't care. So then there's not much hope.

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