Topic: Will The Rapture rid the Earth of Christianity
AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 11/12/10 07:30 PM



You're saying we're claiming the road to the hospital is more important then the hospital because we need the road to get to the hospital.


bad example...because there are many hospitals and more than one road to them


Ok lets get all technical then. You're on an Island with ONE hospital. ONE road to this hospital. Yes the road is occasionally a bit bumpy along the way. You can choose to either walk around along in the woods in a lost confusion thinking you're going in the direction of the one and only true heaven. Or you can choose to obey our father and follow the path he has lit up for us giving us strength along this road. And along this road to heaven, you'll have a guide. Someone to feed you, someone to keep you safe, and someone to accompany you. Jesus is the pathway, the guardian, and the friend we'll ever need.

Islands like that the doctor normally comes to you...

:tongue:

I feed my self. As god is with me Jesus is free to help those that are helpless and need him to 'guide' them.

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 11/12/10 07:34 PM



No one is putting Jesus before God. Jesus is the way to our father.


jeez another Triple contradiction

Cowboy 1 posted:
No one is putting Jesus before God


Cowboy 2 posted:
Jesus is the way to our father


Cowboy 3 posted:
Ultimately our father is most important, he is more important then ANYTHING.


so which is it Cowboys..if God is the most important than "ANYTHING" and no one is putting Jesus before God then wouldn't that mean that all one has to do is worship God solely


You forget, we as the human race turned away from God. We walked away from him and his glory when we decided to sin and be disobedient. And since we turned away from God, we've become lost, wondering around this world and do not know exactly how to get back to him. Thus we need Jesus to give us instructions back to our father so that we can see him and be near. Unless you know how to get to heaven by yourself, if so I would love to know how.

Speak for yourself. Me... at least my small part of the human race is not 'turned away'... Nor do I 'wander' aimlessly about.

Ever seen the moon get between us and the sun.

God is indeed most glorius.

Jesus may be within that glory... Yet you move so that Jesus stands between you and that glory... The glory of god will become 'eclipsed'... and you will be in darkness.

CowboyGH's photo
Fri 11/12/10 08:23 PM




You're saying we're claiming the road to the hospital is more important then the hospital because we need the road to get to the hospital.


bad example...because there are many hospitals and more than one road to them


Ok lets get all technical then. You're on an Island with ONE hospital. ONE road to this hospital. Yes the road is occasionally a bit bumpy along the way. You can choose to either walk around along in the woods in a lost confusion thinking you're going in the direction of the one and only true heaven. Or you can choose to obey our father and follow the path he has lit up for us giving us strength along this road. And along this road to heaven, you'll have a guide. Someone to feed you, someone to keep you safe, and someone to accompany you. Jesus is the pathway, the guardian, and the friend we'll ever need.

Islands like that the doctor normally comes to you...

:tongue:

I feed my self. As god is with me Jesus is free to help those that are helpless and need him to 'guide' them.


Islands come to you? Hmm, next time there's an island knocking on your front door please I ask that you take a picture and send it my way.

And yes you may feed your self literally with forking the food to your mouth. But without God's grace you would not have been able to get that food. He gives and allows you to possess a job and or any other income. So therefore in the long run our father is who feeds you.

CowboyGH's photo
Fri 11/12/10 08:24 PM




No one is putting Jesus before God. Jesus is the way to our father.


jeez another Triple contradiction

Cowboy 1 posted:
No one is putting Jesus before God


Cowboy 2 posted:
Jesus is the way to our father


Cowboy 3 posted:
Ultimately our father is most important, he is more important then ANYTHING.


so which is it Cowboys..if God is the most important than "ANYTHING" and no one is putting Jesus before God then wouldn't that mean that all one has to do is worship God solely


You forget, we as the human race turned away from God. We walked away from him and his glory when we decided to sin and be disobedient. And since we turned away from God, we've become lost, wondering around this world and do not know exactly how to get back to him. Thus we need Jesus to give us instructions back to our father so that we can see him and be near. Unless you know how to get to heaven by yourself, if so I would love to know how.

Speak for yourself. Me... at least my small part of the human race is not 'turned away'... Nor do I 'wander' aimlessly about.

Ever seen the moon get between us and the sun.

God is indeed most glorius.

Jesus may be within that glory... Yet you move so that Jesus stands between you and that glory... The glory of god will become 'eclipsed'... and you will be in darkness.


No Jesus isn't before anything. Jesus is the PATHWAY to the father. He's not an obstacle standing before God. He is the pathway, he is the way to the father.

davidben1's photo
Fri 11/12/10 09:14 PM
jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse.


CowboyGH's photo
Fri 11/12/10 09:29 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Fri 11/12/10 09:32 PM

jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse.




Now you're putting words in.


jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, What you have done unto the least of these, you have done unto me.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself.

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, if though givest seeking a reward, ye shall receive a curse

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks to save it's life, shall loose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for a friend, shall gain it

funny how the lost try to confuse people and change what is being said.

davidben1's photo
Fri 11/12/10 09:39 PM
jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse

CowboyGH's photo
Fri 11/12/10 09:45 PM

jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse



jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, What you have done unto the least of these, you have done unto me.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself.

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, if though givest seeking a reward, ye shall receive a curse

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks to save it's life, shall loose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for a friend, shall gain it

funny how the lost try to confuse people and change what is being said.
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I've got all night if you wish to do this.

davidben1's photo
Fri 11/12/10 09:50 PM
jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse

CowboyGH's photo
Fri 11/12/10 09:56 PM

jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse



jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, What you have done unto the least of these, you have done unto me.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself.

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, if though givest seeking a reward, ye shall receive a curse

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks to save it's life, shall loose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for a friend, shall gain it

funny how the lost try to confuse people and change what is being said.

davidben1's photo
Fri 11/12/10 10:01 PM
jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse

CowboyGH's photo
Fri 11/12/10 10:08 PM

jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse


jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, What you have done unto the least of these, you have done unto me.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself.

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, if though givest seeking a reward, ye shall receive a curse

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks to save it's life, shall loose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for a friend, shall gain it

funny how the lost try to confuse people and change what is being said.

davidben1's photo
Fri 11/12/10 10:23 PM
jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse

CowboyGH's photo
Fri 11/12/10 10:34 PM

jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse


jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, What you have done unto the least of these, you have done unto me.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself.

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, if though givest seeking a reward, ye shall receive a curse

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks to save it's life, shall loose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for a friend, shall gain it

funny how the lost try to confuse people and change what is being said.

davidben1's photo
Fri 11/12/10 10:37 PM
jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse...

for only what trick itself trying to get to "heaven" for ITSELF, obey the temptation SATAN, OF "DIRECTIONS" FOR HOW TO GET GOOD FOR SELF...

for indeed, there is no commandment except to the smallest brain in the cosmos, that which but seeks SELF GOOD FOR SELF FROM "GOD".

there be no smaller pea size brain, than that which deems it's own ONE BRAIN, SPEAKS THE TRUTH FOR AND OF ALL CIVILIZATION.

and so these as the demons of society, do follow their master satan, LUCIFER, who deemed ITSELF, knew the ONLY TRUTH OF GOD ITSELF, therefore deeming itself as EQUAL TO GOD, and so, guilty of blaspheme, these were cast away from "god"...

and so, the angels of god came forth, and poured out viles of wrath upon the self declared speaker's of god, whom deemed their lips and brain worthy to SPEAK FOR "GOD"...

and they wept and moaned, seeing their own lust for good for self, had decieved them, into accepting the mark of the beast, and these were lowered into the lake of everlasting fire, and the athiests offered brews unto the ignorant to cool the flames

HappyDude111's photo
Wed 12/01/10 01:15 PM
take a good look at who began all this dogma. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rie2WShXZnU

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 12/01/10 02:25 PM

jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse...

for only what trick itself trying to get to "heaven" for ITSELF, obey the temptation SATAN, OF "DIRECTIONS" FOR HOW TO GET GOOD FOR SELF...

for indeed, there is no commandment except to the smallest brain in the cosmos, that which but seeks SELF GOOD FOR SELF FROM "GOD".

there be no smaller pea size brain, than that which deems it's own ONE BRAIN, SPEAKS THE TRUTH FOR AND OF ALL CIVILIZATION.

and so these as the demons of society, do follow their master satan, LUCIFER, who deemed ITSELF, knew the ONLY TRUTH OF GOD ITSELF, therefore deeming itself as EQUAL TO GOD, and so, guilty of blaspheme, these were cast away from "god"...

and so, the angels of god came forth, and poured out viles of wrath upon the self declared speaker's of god, whom deemed their lips and brain worthy to SPEAK FOR "GOD"...

and they wept and moaned, seeing their own lust for good for self, had decieved them, into accepting the mark of the beast, and these were lowered into the lake of everlasting fire, and the athiests offered brews unto the ignorant to cool the flames


jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, what you do to people, you do to me..

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, love your neighbour as much as yourself.

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, no great love then the one that shows it by laying his own life down to save another.

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, if you seek to gain more for your own life, you will loose it. But if you lay down your life for your neighbour you will gain just the same.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 12/01/10 02:32 PM

jesus said, "what you have done unto the least of these, you have done as unto me"...

the same as to say, the least of these is EQUAL, OR THE SAME AS JESUS.

and jesus said, "the greatest commandment of these, is to love thy neighbor as thyself"...

the same as to say, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, NOT ME "JESUS"...

and jesus said, "no greater love hath one than that which lay down it's life for a friend"...

the same as to say, IT IS NOT LOVE OF GOD TO LAY DOWN ONE'S LIFE TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE OR REWARD FOR ONESELF...

and jesus said, "if thou givest seeking a reward, ye shall recieve a curse"...

the same as to say, to give one's life to "god", seeking a reward or good for self, and one shall recieve a curse.

and jesus said, "that which seeks to save it's life, shall lose it, but that which seeks to lay down it's life for A FRIEND, shall gain it"...

the same as to say, that which seeks "god" for SELF AGENDA, and to profit itself or spare itself, shall find the opposite for itself, lol...

funny how the "cursed" do spew the supposed good of their own curse...

for only what trick itself trying to get to "heaven" for ITSELF, obey the temptation SATAN, OF "DIRECTIONS" FOR HOW TO GET GOOD FOR SELF...

for indeed, there is no commandment except to the smallest brain in the cosmos, that which but seeks SELF GOOD FOR SELF FROM "GOD".

there be no smaller pea size brain, than that which deems it's own ONE BRAIN, SPEAKS THE TRUTH FOR AND OF ALL CIVILIZATION.

and so these as the demons of society, do follow their master satan, LUCIFER, who deemed ITSELF, knew the ONLY TRUTH OF GOD ITSELF, therefore deeming itself as EQUAL TO GOD, and so, guilty of blaspheme, these were cast away from "god"...

and so, the angels of god came forth, and poured out viles of wrath upon the self declared speaker's of god, whom deemed their lips and brain worthy to SPEAK FOR "GOD"...

and they wept and moaned, seeing their own lust for good for self, had decieved them, into accepting the mark of the beast, and these were lowered into the lake of everlasting fire, and the athiests offered brews unto the ignorant to cool the flames



for only what trick itself trying to get to "heaven" for ITSELF, obey the temptation SATAN, OF "DIRECTIONS" FOR HOW TO GET GOOD FOR SELF...

for indeed, there is no commandment except to the smallest brain in the cosmos, that which but seeks SELF GOOD FOR SELF FROM "GOD".

there be no smaller pea size brain, than that which deems it's own ONE BRAIN, SPEAKS THE TRUTH FOR AND OF ALL CIVILIZATION.

and so these as the demons of society, do follow their master satan, LUCIFER, who deemed ITSELF, knew the ONLY TRUTH OF GOD ITSELF, therefore deeming itself as EQUAL TO GOD, and so, guilty of blaspheme, these were cast away from "god"...

and so, the angels of god came forth, and poured out viles of wrath upon the self declared speaker's of god, whom deemed their lips and brain worthy to SPEAK FOR "GOD"...

and they wept and moaned, seeing their own lust for good for self, had decieved them, into accepting the mark of the beast, and these were lowered into the lake of everlasting fire, and the athiests offered brews unto the ignorant to cool the flames


Obeying the laws lade out before us by our true and only god is not for bettering of one's self. It is to be obedient and listen to what our father has told us to do or not to do. If one does it merely in hopes of getting to heaven and receiving some form of reward, the action is done in vein. If an action is done in vein, it's worse then not doing it in the first place. Again we don't obey for bettering of ourself we do it in obedience to God and or to help someone else.

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Wed 12/01/10 03:16 PM
Cowboy wrote:

Obeying the laws lade out before us by our true and only god is not for bettering of one's self. It is to be obedient and listen to what our father has told us to do or not to do. If one does it merely in hopes of getting to heaven and receiving some form of reward, the action is done in vein. If an action is done in vein, it's worse then not doing it in the first place. Again we don't obey for bettering of ourself we do it in obedience to God and or to help someone else.


What laws are laid out before us?

You claim that Jesus brought a "New Covenant of Laws", and that the "Old Covenant" had been fulfilled.

Moreover, Jesus didn't even speak in terms of commandments, laws, or in terms of obedience. He spoke mostly in parables.

Also, he said, "He who is without sin cast the first stone".

Well, he's directing people who are without sin to cast stones at sinners. If he forgives people of their sins who have accepted them as his savior, then once you have accepted Jesus as your savior you are without sin, because your sins have been forgiven.

Therefore a person could take that to mean that they are no supposed to start stoning sinners to death, because Jesus directed that those who are without sin should cast the first stone.

See how it can become a dangerous scenario?

The so-called "Laws that have been laid out before us" by Jesus, are extremely vague and unclear.


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Wed 12/01/10 07:04 PM

Cowboy wrote:

Obeying the laws lade out before us by our true and only god is not for bettering of one's self. It is to be obedient and listen to what our father has told us to do or not to do. If one does it merely in hopes of getting to heaven and receiving some form of reward, the action is done in vein. If an action is done in vein, it's worse then not doing it in the first place. Again we don't obey for bettering of ourself we do it in obedience to God and or to help someone else.


What laws are laid out before us?

You claim that Jesus brought a "New Covenant of Laws", and that the "Old Covenant" had been fulfilled.

Moreover, Jesus didn't even speak in terms of commandments, laws, or in terms of obedience. He spoke mostly in parables.

Also, he said, "He who is without sin cast the first stone".

Well, he's directing people who are without sin to cast stones at sinners. If he forgives people of their sins who have accepted them as his savior, then once you have accepted Jesus as your savior you are without sin, because your sins have been forgiven.

Therefore a person could take that to mean that they are no supposed to start stoning sinners to death, because Jesus directed that those who are without sin should cast the first stone.

See how it can become a dangerous scenario?

The so-called "Laws that have been laid out before us" by Jesus, are extremely vague and unclear.




Nice try, but now you're twisting words. Yes we are forgiven of our sins when we accept Jesus as lord and saviour. But that does NOT mean we don't have them. Sins don't go away. Once you've committed a sin, you'll always have that sin. Jesus only offers forgiveness of those sins. So even with accepting Jesus as lord and saviour we are still not WITHOUT sin.

And no the laws laid out before us are no where near vague or unclear. They are only vague and unclear to those whom do not wish to believe in them and or follow them. Yes there may be different denominations, but that's not from anything being unclear. Each denomination follows the same laws. The only difference between the two is how they worship our father.