Topic: Why is it the men always have to make the first move in dati
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Wed 02/02/11 10:47 AM


We are the Alpha Sex we must exert and show confidence and go get ours...that's the way it is my old timer brother


So, what's with all the guys these days who have no confidence and want to sit around and wait for women to make a move? laugh


I definitely don't fit that category ahhh we are talking about America to much I think, this modern day society is messing chit up ahhh not for me though hahaha ;)



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Wed 02/02/11 10:49 AM

We are the Alpha Sex we must exert and show confidence and go get ours...that's the way it is my old timer brother


the more things change, the more they stay the sameflowerforyou

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Wed 02/02/11 11:11 AM



We are the Alpha Sex we must exert and show confidence and go get ours...that's the way it is my old timer brother


So I am supposed to drape on a bear skin, club the other guy in the head and drag the woman off grunting? I'm confident I can get girls that way!

:banana:


Yes my friend that is what I like to call going cave man pick up style

Or there is going Spartan too that's even better

The fact is a woman likes confidence so if you be confident and engage a woman you see and like she will respond,


Spartan Style is walking up to a woman and flatly telling her you intend to breed with her and put your guard up. She then puts her guard up and the two of you fight tooth and nail until she either submits, is beaten to the ground and gives up to you, or she kicks the living hell out of you and humiliates you for having the brass to think you could be strong enough to mate her. That was love Spartan Style. The only way a woman would outright submit was if the man was a hero or proven warrior.

Oddly I can respect a classic Spartan woman because they don't play weak. Samurai women likewise trained to fight. Their skills were more assassination style but they knew better than to jump face first into combat unless they absolutely had to. The samurai women were just as lethal as any man but were more graceful and subtle. But then again I am sure historically there were Samurai women who were loud, brash, and vicious fighters.

I modern day Amazon Indian tribes many times the women will fight along side of the men. In at least three African societies there were women warrior queens and the Romans ran into two of them! They are the ones credited with stopping Rome's advance into Africa.

Still, it never hurt my feelings when a woman asked me what I was up to and if they had any suggestions! I am always up to any good suggestions!

Okami04's photo
Wed 02/02/11 11:22 AM




We are the Alpha Sex we must exert and show confidence and go get ours...that's the way it is my old timer brother


So I am supposed to drape on a bear skin, club the other guy in the head and drag the woman off grunting? I'm confident I can get girls that way!

:banana:


Yes my friend that is what I like to call going cave man pick up style

Or there is going Spartan too that's even better

The fact is a woman likes confidence so if you be confident and engage a woman you see and like she will respond,


Spartan Style is walking up to a woman and flatly telling her you intend to breed with her and put your guard up. She then puts her guard up and the two of you fight tooth and nail until she either submits, is beaten to the ground and gives up to you, or she kicks the living hell out of you and humiliates you for having the brass to think you could be strong enough to mate her. That was love Spartan Style. The only way a woman would outright submit was if the man was a hero or proven warrior.

Oddly I can respect a classic Spartan woman because they don't play weak. Samurai women likewise trained to fight. Their skills were more assassination style but they knew better than to jump face first into combat unless they absolutely had to. The samurai women were just as lethal as any man but were more graceful and subtle. But then again I am sure historically there were Samurai women who were loud, brash, and vicious fighters.

I modern day Amazon Indian tribes many times the women will fight along side of the men. In at least three African societies there were women warrior queens and the Romans ran into two of them! They are the ones credited with stopping Rome's advance into Africa.

Still, it never hurt my feelings when a woman asked me what I was up to and if they had any suggestions! I am always up to any good suggestions!


I am pleased to see you know the style I speak of ,

The spartan way was good strong women were only for strong men

ahh my kind of society

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Wed 02/02/11 02:24 PM



We are the Alpha Sex we must exert and show confidence and go get ours...that's the way it is my old timer brother


So, what's with all the guys these days who have no confidence and want to sit around and wait for women to make a move? laugh


I definitely don't fit that category ahhh we are talking about America to much I think, this modern day society is messing chit up ahhh not for me though hahaha ;)





Oh, I wasn't saying you fit into that category :smile:. There are lots that do, though. Many of them are on this site.

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Wed 02/02/11 02:34 PM
SingMeSweet I am going to go Spartan if you don't want me you better put up a good fight lol

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Wed 02/02/11 02:41 PM
Edited by actionlynx on Wed 02/02/11 02:42 PM
In defense of the OP...

I bet he already knew about the confidence factor, etc.

However, why does a man get looked down upon when he poses the question like the OP did?

After all, we all go out looking for what we want. We all get rejected, often by someone we want, sometimes multiple times by the same person. After we face failure so many times, we begin to doubt whether there is someone out there for us, or we doubt the things we thought we wanted.

Now, if both sexes approached each other on a regular basis, the chances of us finding what we want increases....for all of us. If finding the right person was as easy as men just working over every woman they met, letting rejection just roll off each time like it was nothing, then none of us would be here for online dating UNLESS we all bury ourselves in work or stay holed up in our homes, shunning any possibility of meeting "that someone" out in the real world.

How many "confident" men have approached ladies only to be rejected, or who turn out to be losers once a woman knows him better?

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Wed 02/02/11 06:00 PM
This question has a few answers to it. Women love to be chased because it makes them feel wanted. Some women are taught that a man is supposed to approach a woman because that is just how it is done. Some women love to flirt, give off signals in the hopes that a man will see this and then prove he has a sac, nut up and approach her. Call it stroking a woman's ego, or call it a woman loving to be the object of a man's affectiion.

Truth is, women have and always will love to be chased. Yeah, some women will go after what they want. But, in most cases where this happens, it is because the guy just will not "see" that the chick likes him. There are women who have no qualms with seeing a dude and then going for him. But for the most part, women want to be pursued.

Now. Guys who whine about why women won't come after them are normally wussies. That, or they like a chick and are arfraid to ask them out because they have no confidence in themselves. I'm not knocking the OP here. Just stating my opinion.

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Wed 02/02/11 06:06 PM

SingMeSweet I am going to go Spartan if you don't want me you better put up a good fight lol


rofl

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Wed 02/02/11 06:08 PM

In defense of the OP...

I bet he already knew about the confidence factor, etc.

However, why does a man get looked down upon when he poses the question like the OP did?

After all, we all go out looking for what we want. We all get rejected, often by someone we want, sometimes multiple times by the same person. After we face failure so many times, we begin to doubt whether there is someone out there for us, or we doubt the things we thought we wanted.

Now, if both sexes approached each other on a regular basis, the chances of us finding what we want increases....for all of us. If finding the right person was as easy as men just working over every woman they met, letting rejection just roll off each time like it was nothing, then none of us would be here for online dating UNLESS we all bury ourselves in work or stay holed up in our homes, shunning any possibility of meeting "that someone" out in the real world.

How many "confident" men have approached ladies only to be rejected, or who turn out to be losers once a woman knows him better?


To me, it seemed more like the OP was complaining that women weren't making the first move. Complaining isn't going to help at all.

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Wed 02/02/11 06:10 PM
Better question...why complain about it? If you know they are waiting for you, jump. Not difficult.

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Wed 02/02/11 06:13 PM

Better question...why complain about it? If you know they are waiting for you, jump. Not difficult.


:thumbsup:

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Wed 02/02/11 06:21 PM
Ever consider that maybe he has been trying to make the first move with little success, and that maybe he is frustrated? Maybe he wanted to relieve some of that frustration by speaking his mind and getting feedback on it?

Online dating can be brutal for someone that lacks patience and expects immediate results. Perhaps the problem isn't confidence but rather patience.

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Wed 02/02/11 06:26 PM

Ever consider that maybe he has been trying to make the first move with little success, and that maybe he is frustrated? Maybe he wanted to relieve some of that frustration by speaking his mind and getting feedback on it?

Online dating can be brutal for someone that lacks patience and expects immediate results. Perhaps the problem isn't confidence but rather patience.


We can read into his post all we want, but really, only he will know what he has or has not been doing. I'm sure everyone gets frustrated at times. Complaining about no women making the first move just isn't going to help, though.

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Wed 02/02/11 06:29 PM

There are a lot of probabilities, but the OP did not mention it. What he did post is a statement expressing his opinion, which has been construed as a grievance designed to get attention. :)

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Wed 02/02/11 06:30 PM


Ever consider that maybe he has been trying to make the first move with little success, and that maybe he is frustrated? Maybe he wanted to relieve some of that frustration by speaking his mind and getting feedback on it?

Online dating can be brutal for someone that lacks patience and expects immediate results. Perhaps the problem isn't confidence but rather patience.


We can read into his post all we want, but really, only he will know what he has or has not been doing. I'm sure everyone gets frustrated at times. Complaining about no women making the first move just isn't going to help, though.


Yep. :)

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Wed 02/02/11 06:31 PM


There are a lot of probabilities, but the OP did not mention it. What he did post is a statement expressing his opinion, which has been construed as a grievance designed to get attention. :)


Exactly.

lalalove's photo
Wed 02/02/11 06:38 PM
i actually prefer to be the one to be first, so when a guy actually makes the first move on me i am shocked but like it:wink:

DTHRomeo's photo
Wed 02/02/11 06:46 PM

This question has a few answers to it. Women love to be chased because it makes them feel wanted. Some women are taught that a man is supposed to approach a woman because that is just how it is done. Some women love to flirt, give off signals in the hopes that a man will see this and then prove he has a sac, nut up and approach her. Call it stroking a woman's ego, or call it a woman loving to be the object of a man's affectiion.

Truth is, women have and always will love to be chased. Yeah, some women will go after what they want. But, in most cases where this happens, it is because the guy just will not "see" that the chick likes him. There are women who have no qualms with seeing a dude and then going for him. But for the most part, women want to be pursued.

Now. Guys who whine about why women won't come after them are normally wussies. That, or they like a chick and are arfraid to ask them out because they have no confidence in themselves. I'm not knocking the OP here. Just stating my opinion.



Word! smokin

TxsGal3333's photo
Wed 02/02/11 07:13 PM


This question has a few answers to it. Women love to be chased because it makes them feel wanted. Some women are taught that a man is supposed to approach a woman because that is just how it is done. Some women love to flirt, give off signals in the hopes that a man will see this and then prove he has a sac, nut up and approach her. Call it stroking a woman's ego, or call it a woman loving to be the object of a man's affectiion.

Truth is, women have and always will love to be chased. Yeah, some women will go after what they want. But, in most cases where this happens, it is because the guy just will not "see" that the chick likes him. There are women who have no qualms with seeing a dude and then going for him. But for the most part, women want to be pursued.

Now. Guys who whine about why women won't come after them are normally wussies. That, or they like a chick and are arfraid to ask them out because they have no confidence in themselves. I'm not knocking the OP here. Just stating my opinion.



Word! smokin


Ditto.......................bigsmile