THIS is getting silly,,my reference of HER,,
was the OP's remarks,,,,,YOU didn't GET THAT,,from my above reply?
"she had said above",,,meaning the OP,,,
My remarks came from ONLY WHAT THE OP STATED,,,as I showed you above
This is not a PROBLEM with ME,,,as it was FELT A PROBLEM,,with the op...so THAT CAUGHT ALL MY ATTENTIONS,,,,,not anyone or anything.
JUST that FEELING SHE EXTENDED IN STATEMENT "AS WHAT SHE FELT HERE"
man,,,people,,,I was merely reminding ALL OF US,,,how WE SHOULD REMEMBER we were once new to posting,,and new on here..
And to not lose sight in knowing when someone is just ranting and up-set,,verses taking everything so personal...
kind-of-like now? lol,,life and feeling relaxed on here,,and
talking without fear of being critical about every issue that might
only be a venting from someone's anger..
Most who post our friends on here and new members don't always use their best judgments in writing their first posts,,,so whoopee.
we live and let live and we know each other through what we read
in their person as who they are,,and NEWBIES,,one never knows till they post,,,but seasoned readers as most here are,,know it was her first post,,,so MOST,,go light on them...THATS ALL I WAS SAYING.
or shall I say,,TRYING to say,,,and THIS IS WAY MORE than I ever felt Needed MORE explanation on,,,to understand my above copy of HER(OP)feelings "she" felt,, NOW,,,could I please not type this much anymore....I think I broke a nail...

I had to do quite a bit a reading to figure out the no actaul bananas were harmed in the writing of this thread.



Bottom line is that the people who raise their children a certain way or with an iron hand, too protective etc are just not going to listen to advice that other people give. They will do things there own way no matter what.

The best thing that open minded parents can do is be supportive role models to their kids. Caring parents can change the world you know.

Out of curiosity, you do know you can be both a stay at home mom AND a feminist, right? The two aren't mutually exclusive.

EQ, I just love the way you enter and
throw a bucket of common sense on someone.
I wish you would do it more :-)

Just for the record....

Some Mommas are great women who put up with an awful lot of crap from thier kids. My Mom (not biological) stepped into an uphill battle of dealing with me and my brother when she decided to marry into our family. I put that woman through hell. Still she gave me love and support even when I scorned her...

It was a long and hard road...but, in the end...she won my undying love and respect.....I LOVE my Mom.

In full knowledge that I am going to be called "elitist" and reprimanded for saying what I am going to say, I am going to say it anyway.

iam4u, I have an extremely difficult time understanding just about anything you write. I am not attacking your character, but your style of writing makes deciphering what you write a daunting task. I didn't even attempt to wade through all of the post that the above quote included.

I could give you some tips on how to improve the readability of your posts, but I will desist because I understand you are not here for lessons in composition, but with all due respect, I won't be attempting to translate your posts in the future.




Brava!

I stayed at home until my sons started school, and then I only worked part-time. A lot of people do not understand the essence of feminism: it is the knowledge that the sexes are different but equal.

Women who hate men are not, by definition, feminists: they are misandrists..

I have learned a hard lesson...

Don't drink and write on a lonely Friday Night (hey! that rhymes!), when you are still bitter about your ex.

Being told how wrong I was is a humbling experience, and I have decided its an awesome character builder.

Gwen, I am actually concerned for you, please get your blood pressure checked. It's been two days and you are still going strong. You are gonna give yourself a heart attack, and I'm pretty sure no one here is into necrophilia (all those guys need is a name and a shovel).

As far as my crass venting: I know that no one who actually does this behavior will ever listen to me.

As far as my title is concerned: You clicked on it, didn't you? Get a sense of humor.

Love Always,
Shayna

LOL!

Word!

:)

Don't sweat is Shay....

Not everyone here is as draconianly merciless. Just keep being you.

:)

(I know...I am about to get reamed for improper use of the term "Draconianly"...thank God I ain't gotta use it in proper context to suite the tastes of a bitter and condescending teacher who is gonna judge me even though I ain't in her class)......oh crap..I bet I was wrong on that......

HAhahahahaha who friggen cares!?

My mom chose to stay home with us because she didn't want my brother or I to be latch-key kids. However, both my parents discussed it and made the decision together. That didn't stop her from expecting equal treatment, and my dad was extremely involved with both of us growing up teaching us "manly" things. Our house was fairly balanced and we were expected to do everything necessary to keep basic house.

My whole immediate family are feminists.

Sigh......sticking my dik in the pickle slicer.......this sux.

thank you. (for the definition) and if it makes u feel any better I can't understand a word Iam4u says either

Oh, and BTW just because I was a stay at home mom who was not a feminist does not mean that I thought they were mutually exclusive. I don't think the comment was a "bucket of common sense" I found it condesending and an assumption (a false assumption) but most people seem to have difficulty understanding that an "assumption" is not a fact. If the comment about stay at home moms & feminism was directed at me, I feel insulted, offended and don't appreciate having words put in my mouth by anyone but myself.

You are so very lucky to have a family that thought about their children's needs in such a way. I think that is a family system I could come to admire and I hope I am lucky enough to raise a family in the same manner.

Tootsie, don't worry about me--I am not sitting and drinking on Friday nights!

I do, however, tend to express myself forcefully. It comes from many years of getting my point across in writing.

No worries, Krupa. Since you consistently stoop to ad hominem, personal insults instead of offering concrete criticism, this will be the last missive that I direct at you.

See that it is, Gwendolyn2009, and let's return to the topic please.

Thanks,
Mark.. (check your mail)

Gwen, it's so easy for some to make accusations and not address the reality of what they've said... It was a nice try though no?

Hmm well I am a Mum to 4 young boys and heaps of extras that have adopted me,
My boys are taught to respect women, as they should, also as they dont have a Dad in the home they are taught to be responsible for themselves and their actions, they look after me and their sisters, and would probably try to kill anyone who hurt us, even thought they are still children they are responsible young men.
They know that women are emotional, that we need to be protected at times but also have learnt when they cannot change our minds, having a Mum and 2 sister and their sisters friends constantly on their backs, they have learnt to deal with PMS, moodiness, madness and their mothers childishness.
They are all caring, but strong young men, Yep if they need help they ask there mum, but they all make their own decisions. And if they ever treat a women badly I would personally kick their butts.
Hmmm but since they are only 10 15 16 and 19. They still have heaps to learn.
I am not saying this just because they are my kids, I am saying this because they are wonderful young men, who hopefully will grow up full of love and patience for their partners, with enough balls to say no when they need to and run their household.

whatever happened to "it takes a village to raise a child"? i can recall a time when the neighborhood kids (myself included) where doing something after school (that kids do that they shouldn't) when one of the neighborhood dads who was off work that day caught us. he spanked each and every one of us and sent us to our respective houses. when my dad got home from work i was hoping that he would go over and kick the man's azz for spanking me. well the neighbor came over and told my dad what he had found and what he had done. my dad shook his hand, turned, closed the door, and spanked the tar out of me. i dare anyone to try to spank a neighbor's child nowadays

while I wouldn't advocate spanking the neighbor's children (as I didn't - or extremely seldom - spanked my own), I do agree with you that the "village" mentality of community is far too lacking - prolly the spread of urban "suburbs" and the growing mobile society that we have now

I think we have to look in places for a sense of community that are new and meet our current needs in the current environment