Topic: Do you believe in life after death
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Mon 08/10/20 07:43 AM
As a spiritualist
YES.
I'm a medium and clairvoyant.
I see spirits just like i see humans
I hear them, see them, can smell them and feel them.
I had a bad experience once I was attacked, so since then I've closed myself.
But life after death is real.
Our soul just moves on we all go back home, some call it heaven some call it spirit world, I call it home.


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Sat 08/22/20 06:20 PM
Edited by null on Sat 08/22/20 07:02 PM
There have been many reports of the NDE phenomenon across many centuries and many cultures with remarkably similar narratives. Accounts retold from medical personnel of people who have died and returned are numerous as well.

As far as the personal accounts go people have recalled both good and bad experiences--some have even been neutral. Patients who have died have recalled conversations and events surrounding them by medical personnel that they should not have had a conscious awareness of in their debilitated state.

One of the standout statements that has been put forth on many occasions is that "The experience was more Real than Real" while also being a deeply personal experience. However one may view the subject suffice it to say that as a social construct there have been many people write books on the subject suggesting that at least in part that there would be no desire to capitalize on something that has been discussed many times if profit were the exclusive motive. Many have had a complete change in their life view after such events have occurred as well as losing their fear of death when having a positive experience.

Recently the AWAreness study which assayed both implicit and explicit events in NDE subjects came to some interesting conclusions. This was a trial conducted in Europe and the United States. It was suggested that further studies be done to analyze the validity of these claims. However one may choose to view the subject of NDE's the idea behind what is seen and communicated to experiencers is deeply fascinating.




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Sat 08/22/20 07:29 PM
I believe as well. At Times I feel a presence near, like there is something there. I believe in spirit guides.

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Tue 10/13/20 11:06 AM
I absolutely do....

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Tue 10/13/20 12:46 PM
Still...NO

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Mon 10/19/20 09:23 AM
Edited by Unknow on Mon 10/19/20 09:25 AM
Everything points to it.
It is also technically easier than existing the first time.

Life is similar to a new car model or other product, in that once the long and difficult process of design and preparation is complete, it's a matter of repetition of more simple processes.

What would be necessary is a complete set of information about someone -and the means to arrange components into a previous state (if a thing exists, it can technically be recorded and reproduced).

I'm not quite to the point of explaining it clearly, but that which exists required creativity (as evidenced by extreme purposeful complexity) -a component of which is memory. Even regardless of whether or not creativity was required, some sort of memory was required (the components of creativity can exist independently -as creativity is system by arrangement of those components -for example... DNA based evolution in and of itself is actually an intelligent designer -but is not self aware).

Anyway -long story short -if "you" are recorded, "you" can be reproduced.

As for everything pointing to life after death.... Not only are our minds capable of considering life after death... but due to our present form and the fact that our mind is not simply sufficient for our present form and function (as with other animals), we have problems (and even make problems) that other animals do not and can not.

None of those problems can be solved until we have permanence.

We also die after gaining just enough experience to get the general idea -so we can no longer apply those things to the present situation -and a new generation must learn everything anew. We may pass on information, but we can not pass on personal experience.

Even if not considering "God", the fact that we CAN consider life after death -and the fact that we need it to solve our problems and even survive -point to a future which is affected by those things.

From an evolutionary perspective... it is the ultimate fitness for survival -and logically possible.

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Mon 10/26/20 03:02 PM
One doesn’t live long in this world before realizing the reality of death and the fact that we all must face it someday. But the Christian has some additional news about this event—and it’s good news (2 Corinthians 5:1-9, especially verse 8)! When we are absent from this body (at death), we are present with the Lord. As believers, our spirits go immediately to be with Jesus.

The physical or natural body will remain in the grave until the return of Jesus at the Rapture when it will be resurrected like Jesus’ glorified body and reunited with its spirit (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18).

The Bible does not in any way support the idea of reincarnation. Hebrews 9:27 tells us, “It is appointed unto men once to die.” If people returned to earth reincarnated, they would have to die again and again.

When you realize that death to believers means being with Jesus until they are reunited with their resurrected bodies, you understand why death truly has no sting and Jesus did indeed destroy the power it had to hurt us. (Read 1 Corinthians 15 for more insight into death and the resurrection of the dead.)

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Sat 11/28/20 08:06 AM
About 12 years ago, I had a serious motorcycle accident in which two physicians thought I would die, and the head nurse in the hospital I was in thought that if I lived, I would be in a coma for life. I survived that, but had a difficult time for months being able to communicate with others again. I survived that as well. While there are similarities here from before my accident, there are many vast differences as well. Rather extreme, abrupt alterations in many things, people, politics, religion. I truly have no interests in many things, I am fascinated with quantum physics, and how and why I'm still here! I spend a lot of time doing as much research as possible, listening to music, and with the animals in my house (I have cats and dogs). Anyone here that has had a similar experience, or know of someone who has is of great interest to me.

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Tue 01/19/21 09:46 AM
Edited by Unknow on Tue 01/19/21 09:48 AM
We exist as patterns -arrangements of that which exists.

Reproduction shows that -at the very least -the pattern of a human can exist/be stored in some sort of memory.

A (human) zygote is essentially a mingling of data from two humans -which then produces another human.

So... life after death would require our individual patterns -including personal memories -to be stored/remembered -and a process by which we could be reproduced.

As information, it would also be editable -memories and characteristics could be changed.

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Tue 01/26/21 11:01 AM
It only goes to reason. Consider for a moment the working of our mind. In the physical universe, things happen according to physical laws...cause and effect...yet our minds are causal without cause...not something thst supposed to be feasible unless of course our minds operate outside the physical rules. Yes there are electrical impulses and chemical biological processes as science points out, but a computer operates same but not without programming...it falls within cause and effect and unless we are computers...the something beyond has to exist and if we are computers then someone programmed us...and they exist beyond.

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Tue 01/26/21 12:20 PM
What happens if you unplug a computer and destroy the motherboard and processor? The data specific to that computer is lost forever, is it not?

If the data is stored in a 'cloud', the data is then 'shared' by 'other' computers but the original computer and its individual characteristics are gone forever.

That specific computer will never add specifically unique data to the 'cloud' ever again. Nothing new, unique to that computer, will ever be added anywhere.

OT: Still....NO

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Tue 01/26/21 12:51 PM
Edited by Unknow on Tue 01/26/21 12:56 PM
Unless the specific computer and data could be perfectly reproduced....

On a physical level, our cells get replaced. We are not the same people we were in that sense.

That leaves memory and whatever remains overall as cells are replaced.

Though it might make us feel uneasy.... or less "special"....

......If memory, etc, can be PERFECTLY reproduced, the difference between an original and reproduction would not matter effectively.

It WOULD still be "us" -except for that negligible technicality.

Humans tend to believe either that they have some sort of eternal personal aspect -or that they will eventually cease to exist forever... but it really does depend on preservation or reproduction of states.

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Tue 01/26/21 01:51 PM
Ah, preservation of state is not who we are.
We are dynamic and ever changing based on the stimuli we encounter as we live.
A preserved state of me, replicated in any form, is not me as I am and as I will be till I die. That which is I, is me as I am in this state, as I exist in this state. You change the state, you change that which I am.
I will never exist as I am after this state is persihed.
This means everything, all I am, all I feel, all which matters to me, all that shapes my decisions, dreams, feelings and reactions is based on me in this state of existence.

In transhumanism there is a thing known as Mind Uploading. In mind uploading your mind is supposedly uploaded to a matrix (computer cloud). The problem with that is the fact what makes up our minds (soul) is more than thoughts and feelings. Its also the stimuli we encounter while moving thru reality in this environment. Changing anything like that changes the entirety of the essence we call "I".

Also important to consider every stimuli we encounter, every feeling, thought, dream and sensation is a chemical electric reaction in our material brains.
The proof resides in the fact we see vegatative people absent of 'soul'. You remove brain function, 'soul' (self) disappears. Once the brain is ... gone, there can be no 'self'. Without self there is no soul.

OT: Still...NO

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Tue 01/26/21 03:15 PM
definitely, yes!

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Tue 01/26/21 10:20 PM
Edited by Unknow on Tue 01/26/21 10:28 PM
I am including all those things in "state" -and let's say at the greatest/optimal point of development.
Everything is something. A "soul" or spirit -as everything else -would exist as an arrangement of something. If it has a function, it is or is part of a system.

If there is a recording of "you" at any point in your life, but "you" cease to exist except as information which can be used to reproduce you -thoughts, feelings and all -as they would also be by states of something -then there is no loss of continuity except in your personal experience.

"You" would exist as something similar to a .zip file of a program -which is -for all intents and purposes except access and activity -the same thing in its compressed state as in its extracted state. The only difference is -as with a compressed program -"you" would not experience anything until extracted again to an active state -at which point it would simply seem like you woke up.

You would very much still be you -in a temporarily inactive state. Not really much different than sleep -or the contents of ram being stored on a hard drive when shut down (inactive) -then moved back to ram when restarted (active)

Once understood well enough, there is no reason our thoughts, experiences, etc., which are already stored and also presently dynamic -could not be stored in an inactive state.

We tend to believe it -or similar -could not be that simple -but it isn't simple at all -we are just growing more complex in our understanding.
Mysteries are not unknowable -only not presently known


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Wed 01/27/21 09:54 PM
Edited by Unknow on Wed 01/27/21 10:49 PM
If any of our cells or even atoms can be replaced one at a time while still remaining ourselves, then we really are not those things -but a unique pattern/system/design made from such things.

The same would be true for any portion of what makes up our memories, personality, etc. We are not any individual component -or even a collection of specific components. We are actually the pattern/design/system.

If all components were replaced at the same instant, it would be no different.

If our pattern was perfectly recorded at a specific point -and the data was used to make an exact duplicate ...say a thousand years later ...there would still be no difference.

If you wrote "yourself" a note now for the exact duplicate later -explaining that the duplicate was made of no original components, it would not matter, as the duplicate would think, feel and remember exactly as you do because the pattern of the components -matter, energy, whatever -was exact. There would simply be a period of inactivity before you were set in motion again from the record of the previous state.


It would not make us any less special, unique, etc. -or our origin any less holy or divine, if you will, as such things are in the capability, complexity and artistry.
It may sound simple, but it is still very far beyond us -to day the least -and we are not in a position to do it for ourselves.

It would technicaly mean that any number of exact duplicates could be produced, but -as uniqueness is one of the most wonderful things about us (especially as we grow to be more unique as persons) -it would not be logical to do so.
Even so, identical twins are essentially a similar thing at an earlier stage -before experience -and grow as unique individuals from that point

Unsettling, perhaps -but not illogical.



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Mon 02/08/21 10:05 AM
i believe the soul is a parasite. It lives off the body's energy and when the body dies goes searching for a new one. I also believe the body benefits from the soul as the soul animates the body and allows it to function. I believe the soul is trapped in the body and is always trying to escape.

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Mon 02/08/21 12:48 PM
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cher - do u believe in life after love?

sorry
u carry on please :)

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Thu 02/11/21 12:06 AM
Yes I do belief there is life after death but it depends how do you live or did you’re life on earth.
Which means what kind of person you are what is the condition of your heart what kind of thoughts you have what kind of words do you speak what kind of friends do you have what kind of food or drinks you take of eating all that is life on earth Are they all positive or negative or are they all good to you because you think that it is ? While is not . That’s why as human beings go and do research on that in life and for life and than you will know the real answer for AFTER DEATH

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Sun 02/21/21 11:46 PM
the soul lives post death and it searches to find a new body., i have excelled in obe and astral projection., the body is temporary which deteoriates with wear and tear in laps of time.