I'm posting this here, so it will enlighten other's about what/where exactly hell is in our discussion.

First I'd like to ask a question -
What is in the center of this world?
Is it not fire and brimstone? Or in our more advanced in knowledge sociaty today is it not melted rock, molten lave eg., fire and brimstone?


Matthew 12:40


40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
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Ephesians 4:9

9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
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Numbers 16:32-33


32And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.

33They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
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Which brings a question, how exactly did they know at this day and age that the center of the world was molten lava and or melted rock eg., really really really hot? If not informed to us by God himself, how exactly did they have this knowledge?
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And where are we informed Satan resides specifically?

Genesis 3

14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Luke 10

15And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.
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1 Peter 5:8


8Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour
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This shows Satan allowed to go from hell eg., the grave to walking the Earth causing troubles.

So all in all, yes "hell" is the grave. And that is why when it says "condemned" to the grave or "condemned" to hell, it is referring to the same place. And is why Jesus spent 3 days in the heart of the Earth eg., hell.

Here's a geology lesson for you. Over time the Earth's core is actually cooling. Which means that eventually, it will be come a solid core of mostly iron, just like on other planets.

I'm trying to remember what I know of Hell from the Bible. I don't think Hell would be a place on this physical plane as it is for the souls of the damned. Not the their physical body.

since you claim that Jesus is God...then who condemned Jesus to Hell? ...

We all did. Jesus went to hell for all or our sins eg., he died for all of our sins.

didn't you claim that God meant "title of authority" ...and since according to you no one but Jesus have title of authority and therefore the only one that makes the rules is why I ask the question again

who condemned Jesus to Hell? ...did he condemn himself perhaps?

Yes, it is, by my own recollection.



You are mistaking faith for common sense and logic.

I'll give you one prime example.

A Volcano.

They don't shoot downwards from the clouds, do they? No.

Their lava, melted rock, etc, come from below, beneath surface; deep underground.

Thus to make claim and say, 'how did they know', only shows that some people had common sense and logic.



A place called Hell far as I'm aware.
It was the relation between Hades, from Myth, and Satan of the newly founded Christian religion, that caused the instant relation that such is 'underground' as a way for their sudden and drastic switch in religions to be 'justified'.

..by the way Cowboy.

What's a 'ditty'?

I don't think I've heard that term.

-.-

do you know what Brimstone is?

S & S, my understanding of the word "ditty" is that it is a song.

Apparently we are to sing the praises of hell here.

Hell plus Jack and Diane?Let me guess Jesus went and pulled them out of hell also?They were just 2 American kids that grew up in the heartland.

Yes, it is sulfur.

oh wow, guess I should have looked up the meaning of ditty before posting lol. I just assumed from that song a "ditty" was like a little information. But just looked up the meaning, and "ditty" is a short simple song. My apologies everyone for the confusion.

Was a hypothetical question and was answered right after the question.

And where are we informed Satan resides specifically?

Genesis 3

14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

OK, few things.

1. If the serpent already had legs, he'd be a dragon or a lizard as far as my understanding goes.

2. Cursed above cattle? Wtf did the bull and cow ever do wrong? O.o Not to mention, how exactly is the snake worse off then the cow? Cow's are slaughtered daily, so I'm not sure how that's remotely true. Millions of people fear snakes.. because they are both deadly, poisonous, and can some can swallow a full grown infant. :O

3. "Beast of the field" ..horses, cows, and pigs are all... cursed? o.O Interesting... oh, and ox. Which, I don't know if you'll find those in a field anymore.

4. Dust for the rest of your life? Sweet deal, easy diet and doesn't take much to track that down.

..makes me wonder.

Only by "our" thoughts of what a serpant or dragon or lizard is. Who's to say that serpants originally didn't have legs? Who's to say they were created as they are now? Heck, that could explain a little about "dinosaurs". This isn't being said for absolute fact as I'm not sure if there were snake like dinosaurs. As far as I'm aware, there wasn't, sorry for the ignorance if there is.



Cursed above the cattle, does not state the cattle being cursed. Snakes are cursed ove cattle if you think about it. Cows are powerful animals, atleast more powerful then snake eg., they are dominate over snakes.

Yes cattles are slaughtered daily, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the nature of the two. Weather one is more prevailant over another or not. And doesn't matter if they are more deadly or poisonous, this again has absolutely nothing to do with the other. As a whole they are a less dominate species.



Again, does not say these other beasts were cursed, only that the serpant was cursed above them. Meaning they are cursed at being a lower life form, a lower "species" if you may.

In Earths Core?

..a cow is not aggressive. A bull is, but a snake compared to a bull; my money is on the snake; especially if it is poisonous. Hands down.

The bull would tear himself up trying to hit a snake on the ground.

Step out, trample, ok, maybe.

..but just one bite, one scratch.

TKO. Out of the count.

Dominant? Opinion..



..in whose eyes are they less dominant?



Exactly.
That's my point.

He is more cursed then something... not... cursed? O.O

..wtf kind of logic is that?

Dude, I am cursing you more than that dude I never actually cursed.

>.> Take that. :D

Don't snakes live in fields also?

Looks like the Serpent wasn't a snake or even an animal. The term "Serpent" is used to imply wisdom and in some cases deviousness. Genesis is talking about Satan, not some animal.



Hell is described alternately as being eaten by worms, as fire and as darkness. Hell isn't the grave. I believe that hell is annihilation.

No one said a cow was aggressive. Your money would be on the snake eh? Hmmm, yeah I can see where you'd think that a bull couldn't stampede on a snake before it bit the bull. Nobody said the bull would have to stab it with it's horn or ram it or anything. And yeah a snake might get lucky from time to time. But as a general factor, the bull would be the dominate species. Heck if you wanna get that technical, spides are the top dominate species. The poisonouse ones anyhow. They are small enough to be able to sneak up on any other beast, plus poinsonous enough to kill. A snake you can see easier then some spider. And a spider would be more of a possibility to bite you in your sleep and more prone to do so.



??? Do what??? You're stating this as it is a comparison. As in A was cursed and B was cursed as well, just A was cursed more then B. Nobody said the other animals were cursed. The serpant was cursed to being a lower dominate species, a lesser of a being so to speak then the rest of the beasts.