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Topic: Could You Do It?
Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Fri 03/30/12 02:29 PM
Spilt milk and definate maybes.....the government way!

TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Fri 03/30/12 02:30 PM
I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? No, if I could, I would have joined the military a long time ago. Although, I did manufacture circuit boards and many were for the military and used in weapons and equipment such as J-DAM, HUD headsets, tanks, aircraft, Predator drones, etc. So then your just an accessory to murder

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Fri 03/30/12 02:31 PM
The real quistion is why they didnt intercept. It is after all standerd procedure. huh, i thought i just answered why... They didnt bother to intercept at all no real effort, as if they wanted it to happen. Thats my opinion it is far more logical than what happened. could be, but more likely they just didn't want to shot down passenger planes for no reason. they knew something was wrong, but no one had any clue what was really going on...

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Fri 03/30/12 02:33 PM
The real quistion is why they didnt intercept. It is after all standerd procedure. huh, i thought i just answered why... They didnt bother to intercept at all no real effort, as if they wanted it to happen. Thats my opinion it is far more logical than what happened. could be, but more likely they just didn't want to shot down passenger planes for no reason. they knew something was wrong, but no one had any clue what was really going on... Oh yea I forgot "If only we knew" excuse

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Fri 03/30/12 02:34 PM Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 03/30/12 02:36 PM
I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? No, if I could, I would have joined the military a long time ago. Although, I did manufacture circuit boards and many were for the military and used in weapons and equipment such as J-DAM, HUD headsets, tanks, aircraft, Predator drones, etc. So then your just an accessory to murder "Guns don't kill people....blah, blah, blah..." they would love to make it "our" fault for trying to make a living under their rules. Sad how that actually works for them. Our 2nd amendment rights are next thanks to Eric Holder and Biden now they have our freedom and liberty!

Totage Joined Sat 10/13/07 Posts: 24210	Fri 03/30/12 02:34 PM
I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? No, if I could, I would have joined the military a long time ago. Although, I did manufacture circuit boards and many were for the military and used in weapons and equipment such as J-DAM, HUD headsets, tanks, aircraft, Predator drones, etc. So then your just an accessory to murder Not exactly, who's to say any of my boards ever made it out there? For all we know they could be stock piled, or could have failed once they put additional components on to them. lol Kinda like blaming the gun powder manufacturer for the murder of a person.

TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Fri 03/30/12 02:37 PM
lighten up it was just a little humer that's why I put the laughing guy in there

Totage Joined Sat 10/13/07 Posts: 24210	Fri 03/30/12 02:40 PM
I know, I was joking about the stock pile and my boards failing. That's why I put the lol. :)

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Fri 03/30/12 09:29 PM
I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? In the same way that the passengers on one plane 'took' control knowing that action would kill them all... One does things one must when many lives are at stake.

Redykeulous Joined Thu 11/09/06 Posts: 6052	Fri 03/30/12 09:34 PM
I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? What makes the action you've described any different than the actions that have taken the lives of civilians in the Middle East?

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Fri 03/30/12 09:41 PM
I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? What makes the action you've described any different than the actions that have taken the lives of civilians in the Middle East? Most of those lives were taken by the same kind of religious idiots that flew the 9/11 planes... Sure our soldiers have caused a few civilians to die... Yet a sucide bomber TARGETS civilians as a matter of course (so that terror keeps their masters from being ripped limb from limb by the victims).

oldhippie1952 Joined Mon 03/14/11 Posts: 22693	Fri 03/30/12 09:41 PM
I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? Yes I could.

Redykeulous Joined Thu 11/09/06 Posts: 6052	Fri 03/30/12 10:12 PM
I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? What makes the action you've described any different than the actions that have taken the lives of civilians in the Middle East? Most of those lives were taken by the same kind of religious idiots that flew the 9/11 planes... Sure our soldiers have caused a few civilians to die... Yet a sucide bomber TARGETS civilians as a matter of course (so that terror keeps their masters from being ripped limb from limb by the victims). We've been there for 10 years, and by your reconning ""our soldiers have caused a few civilians to die..."". Perhaps you need to catch up, or maybe broaden the scope of media you read.

AndyBgood Joined Thu 12/25/08 Posts: 12437	Sat 03/31/12 12:38 AM
Yeah, they shoot an airliner down over a populated city. What happens to the civilians on the ground when it hits? Let us say it landed in a residential district? I would hope that the Air Force is smarter than that! I also wonder how Obama would buck and wing if his orders caused the deaths of THOUSANDS all because an Airliner strayed off course? Gutless coward would probably throw his own wife under a train if he thought it would save his own skin! That was off topic though, could you do it? If I KNEW it had a nuke in it HELL YES but I would want the jet hit with so many missiles it comes to earth it lands in tiny pieces. Otherwise I would order the plane diverted by other means like trying to cripple it gradually like shoot out an engine or punch a few holes in the fuel tanks. Jet fuel does not spontaneously combust when hit with bullets and jets don't get too far without fuel. Frankly the idea is minimal casualties. If a plane suddenly dives for congress and it is seen on radar with the technology we have at least the president can be evaluated if a jet was aimed at the White House and congressmen jammed into bunkers within congress hall. If it hit either target fewer civilians would be harmed. Sacrificing the Whitehouse or Congress hall would be the most noble sacrifice this country could make in a situation like that. That also would piss off and wake up enough Americans that we might finally begin to get a handle on things... MAYBE! But again in an attempt to be concise I would have to have an idea of what I am facing. Like I said, if I knew it had a nuke on board DOWN SHE GOES!

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 03/31/12 12:39 AM
I wish they would have followed standerd operating procedure for a plane off course on 911. Maybe then we wouldnt be involved in these bankrupting wars. Aviation Intercepts Typical Procedures It is important for people to understand that scrambling jet fighters to intercept aircraft showing the signs of experiencing "IN-FLIGHT EMERGENCIES" such as going off course without authorization, losing a transponder signal and/or losing radio contact is a common and routine task executed jointly between the FAA and NORAD controllers. The entire "national defense-first responder" intercept system has many highly-trained civilian and military personnel who are committed and well-trained to this task. FAA and NORAD continuously monitor our skies and fighter planes and pilots are on the ready 24/7 to handle these situations. Jet fighters typically intercept any suspect plane over the United States within 10 - 15 minutes of notification of a problem [1]. So, why was this particular day any different? Why weren’t the standard operating procedures for aviation intercept followed? http://www.laymans911.info/node/3 What does that have to do with you being able to or not able to pull the trigger?

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 03/31/12 12:39 AM
Kent State Ruby Ridge Waco Mai Lai Katrina victims now in Afghanistan....just to name a few..... Those who make the laws consider themselves above them. They appoint their chosen heros for us to personify with...... or persecute. Oliver North is a PERFECT example! "All the world's a stage...we are just the actors...." The directors need fired! What does that have to do with you being able to or not able to pull the trigger?

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 03/31/12 12:40 AM
I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? Yes. But, I would cry while I did it. I would to, and after for a LONG time.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 03/31/12 12:42 AM
is it acceptable to kill a few hundred to save a few thousand people? what would have been the reaction of the people if they had shot down the planes before they hit the WTC? since they would have never known what was happening, they would have wanted bushes head on a platter for it. but to answer your question, yes, no problem at all with it... It doesn't matter the reaction. Only a couple hundred people would have died that day instead of over 3,000.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 03/31/12 12:44 AM
The real quistion is why they didnt intercept. It is after all standerd procedure. Because of the massive miscommunication. The two that were launched from right by Washington DC were given the wrong directions and were out in the Atlantic. The two in New York were also given wrong information and Flight 93 would have never been hijacked if the pilot would have secured the cabin after he got the text about the other hijackings. Instead he tried to confirm the text when they could have just secured the cockpit then confirmed it.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 03/31/12 12:45 AM
The real quistion is why they didnt intercept. It is after all standerd procedure. huh, i thought i just answered why... They didnt bother to intercept at all no real effort, as if they wanted it to happen. Thats my opinion it is far more logical than what happened. That's sick. No military officer wanted 9/11 to happen.