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Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus
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Sun 06/03/12 10:43 AM




Sinning and "denying" the lord are absolutely two different things.


no Cowboy my young jedi padawan...they are the same ...ask Yoda


No, sinning is being disobedient to the father. Denying the father would be proclaiming to not know God, or that you don't follow him, or that you don't even believe in him. Again, two different things. People make mistakes, thus God offers forgiveness of those sins through his graceful love.


Christians always tell you how all sin is the same.....were they all lying or all mistaken?


A sin is a sin, yes. But denying the Lord thy God has been specifically separated from the rest. God has told us specifically the outcome of that specific sin.


Matthew 10:33

33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

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Sun 06/03/12 10:45 AM

Well for one, I never said I personally go to the doctor when I'm sick lol.

Secondly I could never "heal myself". It would be all done by God.


right...God don't need his followers to go to no stinking Doctors ..

don't you agree?

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Sun 06/03/12 10:48 AM


Well for one, I never said I personally go to the doctor when I'm sick lol.

Secondly I could never "heal myself". It would be all done by God.


right...God don't need his followers to go to no stinking Doctors ..

don't you agree?


First off, God doesn't "need" anything.

But, that doesn't mean we don't need the doctors. God gave "them" that ability. We all are given our own abilities. Some are doctors, other's are firemen, other's are therapists, other's are mailmen, ect.

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Sun 06/03/12 10:53 AM

A sin is a sin, yes. But denying the Lord thy God has been specifically separated from the rest. God has told us specifically the outcome of that specific sin.


Matthew 10:33

33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.



sorry but Christians also have seven deadly sins.....and it's impossible to commit any sin including denying God without violating one of those seven deadly sins

now do you understand why all sins are the same?

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Sun 06/03/12 10:56 AM


A sin is a sin, yes. But denying the Lord thy God has been specifically separated from the rest. God has told us specifically the outcome of that specific sin.


Matthew 10:33

33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.



sorry but Christians also have seven deadly sins.....and it's impossible to commit any sin including denying God without violating one of those seven deadly sins

now do you understand why all sins are the same?


All sins but one are the same. All sins are forgivable, but that one. As we are told, we deny the lord before man, he will deny us before the father. That is the only sin that our God has told us is like that.

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Sun 06/03/12 10:59 AM


Well for one, I never said I personally go to the doctor when I'm sick lol.

Secondly I could never "heal myself". It would be all done by God.


right...God don't need his followers to go to no stinking Doctors ..

don't you agree?


First off, God doesn't "need" anything.

But, that doesn't mean we don't need the doctors. God gave "them" that ability. We all are given our own abilities. Some are doctors, other's are firemen, other's are therapists, other's are mailmen, ect.


I think this is probably the best thing that explains what I'm saying here.


A religious man is on top of a roof during a great flood. A man comes by in a boat and says "get in, get in!" The religous man replies, " no I have faith in God, he will grant me a miracle."

Later the water is up to his waist and another boat comes by and the guy tells him to get in again. He responds that he has faith in god and god will give him a miracle. With the water at about chest high, another boat comes to rescue him, but he turns down the offer again cause "God will grant him a miracle."

With the water at chin high, a helicopter throws down a ladder and they tell him to get in, mumbling with the water in his mouth, he again turns down the request for help for the faith of God. He arrives at the gates of heaven with broken faith and says to Peter, I thought God would grand me a miracle and I have been let down." St. Peter chuckles and responds, "I don't know what you're complaining about, we sent you three boats and a helicopter."


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Sun 06/03/12 11:00 AM

First off, God doesn't "need" anything.

But, that doesn't mean we don't need the doctors. God gave "them" that ability. We all are given our own abilities. Some are doctors, other's are firemen, other's are therapists, other's are mailmen, ect.


so if you get caught on fire...you are going to call a fireman first?..because he has special fire putting out abilities?

or are you going to try and put out the fire yourself?

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Sun 06/03/12 11:03 AM


First off, God doesn't "need" anything.

But, that doesn't mean we don't need the doctors. God gave "them" that ability. We all are given our own abilities. Some are doctors, other's are firemen, other's are therapists, other's are mailmen, ect.


so if you get caught on fire...you are going to call a fireman first?..because he has special fire putting out abilities?

or are you going to try and put out the fire yourself?


I would have to put it out lol. There wouldn't enough time if I was on fire, to call the fireman, wait for him to come, then put it out.

If the house was on fire, I would get out and if I couldn't get out, I would have faith God would send the firemen there in time and give them the ability to put the fire out.

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Sun 06/03/12 11:06 AM


All sins but one are the same. All sins are forgivable, but that one. As we are told, we deny the lord before man, he will deny us before the father. That is the only sin that our God has told us is like that.


no Cowboy...all sins are the same...it's impossible for a Christian to sin without it being one of those seven deadly sins

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Sun 06/03/12 11:07 AM

I would have to put it out lol. There wouldn't enough time if I was on fire, to call the fireman, wait for him to come, then put it out.


and what if there weren't enough time to call the Doctor?

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Sun 06/03/12 11:08 AM



All sins but one are the same. All sins are forgivable, but that one. As we are told, we deny the lord before man, he will deny us before the father. That is the only sin that our God has told us is like that.


no Cowboy...all sins are the same...it's impossible for a Christian to sin without it being one of those seven deadly sins


There is only one unforgivable sin. Denying the lord thy God. The rest are forgivable. But also keep in mind, someone may deny the lord today, but tomorrow find God and worship thereafter. They then would have nothing to be "forgiven" for in that area, for judgement day has not come and we have no had to seek forgiveness of a judgement, for again it has not come yet.

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Sun 06/03/12 11:12 AM

There is only one unforgivable sin. Denying the lord thy God. The rest are forgivable.


nope...each of the seven deadly sins are supposed to be an abomination

isn't denying the Lord an abomination?

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Sun 06/03/12 11:12 AM


I would have to put it out lol. There wouldn't enough time if I was on fire, to call the fireman, wait for him to come, then put it out.


and what if there weren't enough time to call the Doctor?


I don't know about you lol, but I don't call the doctor when there's a fire, I call the fireman.

And if there wasn't enough time for the fireman to get to the house or whatever this fire is in time before it consumed the house or whatever and me. Then that's how it is lol. So I had to endure a little time span of the fire. What's it matter when you have an eternity of Heaven, love, and so on?

As the saying goes "Crap happens". If you thought this building was a danger, it was by your own free will you were in the building. If the fire caught by something you did, then again it was done by your own free will. If someone caught fire to the building, again it was by your own free will to be in that building at that time.

Choice my friend, choice.

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Sun 06/03/12 11:15 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 06/03/12 11:17 AM


There is only one unforgivable sin. Denying the lord thy God. The rest are forgivable.


nope...each of the seven deadly sins are supposed to be an abomination

isn't denying the Lord an abomination?


There is technically no such thing as the 7 deadly sins anyways. No where in the scriptures will you find the term "7 deadly sins" or anything close. The 7 deadly sins is someone's perspective and there way of explain the jift of sins, grouping them together.

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Sun 06/03/12 11:16 AM

I don't know about you lol, but I don't call the doctor when there's a fire, I call the fireman.


if you had faith...why would you call either


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Sun 06/03/12 11:19 AM


I don't know about you lol, but I don't call the doctor when there's a fire, I call the fireman.


if you had faith...why would you call either




Again, the two have almost nothing to do with one another. I would have faith God would show me a way to get out, no need for a fireman in that manner. But to get the fire out, would have to call the fireman to keep the fire from spreading and possibly harming other people.

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Sun 06/03/12 11:23 AM

There is technically no such thing as the 7 deadly sins anyways. No where in the scriptures will you find the term "7 deadly sins" or anything close. The 7 deadly sins is a catholic thing.


see there you go again...allowing me to make you deny your Christian beliefs .....remember you were here in this forum claiming that Lust was an abomination ...or that you should only have sex to make babies and not out of Lust ..and look at you now...trying to claim that it's a Catholic belief....

shame shame shame....repent heathen



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Sun 06/03/12 11:26 AM

I would have faith God would show me a way to get out, no need for a fireman in that manner. But to get the fire out, would have to call the fireman to keep the fire from spreading and possibly harming other people.


Cowboy...remember you were the one of fire....so what are you going to do..

call a fireman...call God...or call on yourself?

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Sun 06/03/12 11:31 AM


There is technically no such thing as the 7 deadly sins anyways. No where in the scriptures will you find the term "7 deadly sins" or anything close. The 7 deadly sins is a catholic thing.


see there you go again...allowing me to make you deny your Christian beliefs .....remember you were here in this forum claiming that Lust was an abomination ...or that you should only have sex to make babies and not out of Lust ..and look at you now...trying to claim that it's a Catholic belief....

shame shame shame....repent heathen






Funches lol, you're comparing apples and oranges. Lust is a deadly sin, this much is true. But the TERM "7 deadly sins" is not in the scriptures. It's known as a deadly sin for it comes in many different forms, porn, discussions with the oposite sex, walking down the street looking at the women, ect. But nevertheless they are forgivable. And yes, sex is for making babies, and making love in the process. The knowing of the action that the two are doing together is possibly going to make another life, to raise, share memories with, ect.

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Sun 06/03/12 11:35 AM


I would have faith God would show me a way to get out, no need for a fireman in that manner. But to get the fire out, would have to call the fireman to keep the fire from spreading and possibly harming other people.


Cowboy...remember you were the one of fire....so what are you going to do..

call a fireman...call God...or call on yourself?


Well since I was the one on fire, I guess I would burn up. But nevertheless would have been something brought on myself. Through possible actions of doing something unsafe with fire or any number of possibilities. People don't just light up in flames for no reason. And your question is still kind of weird lol, who on fire thinks of calling anything? Imagine yourself up in a ball of flames, are you really going to think to stop and call the fireman? lol.

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