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| Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus | |
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No it's not lol. There is no loving another more then another. With your way of thinking, every family in the world is causing mental trauma to their children. Say a family has 4 kids. With what you're saying is, one child will feel mental anguish cause the parents love the other 3 more then them. No Funches lol, there is no grading scale for love eg., loving this person more then that other person. You either love someone or you don't. Cowboy....if there were no grading scale then Jesus wouldn't demand that you love him above your children in order to be his disciple but the fact that you have it within yourself to tell a child that you love them less then the other three children and not see it as abuse ....is exactly the type of people Jesus is looking for to be his disciples Jesus was trying to send a message that it apparent that you are ashame of....that you have to lack empathy to be his disciple ..I mean how else are you going to be able to tolerate it as he toss your family, friends and Children into the Lake of Fire ..unless you had a "Lack of Empathy" so I guess it's now time to ask the eternal question to see if you as a claimant of being a Christian meet with the qualifications to be a disciple of Jesus THE QUESTION would you love Jesus above your own children ...yes or no? Again, there is no loving more, loving less. I would put Jesus first, yes. But again, there is no such thing as loving this person more then that person, ect. You either love someone or you don't. And God is put first in my house. |
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Again, there is no loving more, loving less. I would put Jesus first, yes. But again, there is no such thing as loving this person more then that person, ect. You either love someone or you don't. And God is put first in my house. Cowboy...you've just admitted that you would place your love for Jesus above the love you have for your own children which means that you would make a good disciple..but a lousy parent one of the factors of being a lousy parent is the willingness and eagerness to place someone else above their children ... all I'm doing is teaching you the same as Jesus would....that you should love your children above all else ...even if you have to be commanded to do so or fake doing so |
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Again, there is no loving more, loving less. I would put Jesus first, yes. But again, there is no such thing as loving this person more then that person, ect. You either love someone or you don't. And God is put first in my house. Cowboy...you've just admitted that you would place your love for Jesus above the love you have for your own children which means that you would make a good disciple..but a lousy parent one of the factors of being a lousy parent is the willingness and eagerness to place someone else above their children ... all I'm doing is teaching you the same as Jesus would....that you should love your children above all else ...even if you have to be commanded to do so or fake doing so Not specifically. Even with putting Jesus first, Jesus has told us to care for our children and to raise them the best possible. So even with loving Jesus first, would be raising my kids great. |
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Not specifically. Even with putting Jesus first, Jesus has told us to care for our children and to raise them the best possible. So even with loving Jesus first, would be raising my kids great. Cowboy...if you actually did what Jesus told you, then to raise your kids in the best possible way would mean that you would have to place them first ...not below someone else that you lack empathy and would place your children below another is exactly what makes you a Christian and why Jesus would want you for his disciple so it all works out in the end.....except for the children...and society |
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word of god--funny how it's always humans doing the talking :)
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word of god--funny how it's always humans doing the talking :) It's funny how your topics are always from some other site... |
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Not specifically. Even with putting Jesus first, Jesus has told us to care for our children and to raise them the best possible. So even with loving Jesus first, would be raising my kids great. Cowboy...if you actually did what Jesus told you, then to raise your kids in the best possible way would mean that you would have to place them first ...not below someone else that you lack empathy and would place your children below another is exactly what makes you a Christian and why Jesus would want you for his disciple so it all works out in the end.....except for the children...and society As I said, putting Jesus first is putting the children first - Ephesians 6:4 4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. - 2 Corinthians 12:14 14 Behold, the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. - Colossians 3:21 21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged. - Psalm 103:13 13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth them that fear him. -------------- And many many more. If we love God and obey his commandments, we will love and charish our children. We won't neglect them, we won't do anything foul or bring any form of harm to the child. We will love the children as they are to be loved. So what's your point Funches? |
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And many many more. If we love God and obey his commandments, we will love and charish our children. We won't neglect them, we won't do anything foul or bring any form of harm to the child. We will love the children as they are to be loved. So what's your point Funches? my point is the same, that you make a good disciple but a lousy parent...... those that are willing to place someone they never met (or had a delusion that they met and can't prove it) and place that love above that of their children, their family and oneself... should in fact become a Christian the same as those that place the love of alcohol or any (person place or thing) above the love of their children, family, friends and oneself should also seek some type of treatment |
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word of god--funny how it's always humans doing the talking :) it's the ultimate Ventriloquist Act....and the amazing part of the act is that God is invisible when he makes his dummies talk |
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And many many more. If we love God and obey his commandments, we will love and charish our children. We won't neglect them, we won't do anything foul or bring any form of harm to the child. We will love the children as they are to be loved. So what's your point Funches? my point is the same, that you make a good disciple but a lousy parent...... those that are willing to place someone they never met (or had a delusion that they met and can't prove it) and place that love above that of their children, their family and oneself... should in fact become a Christian the same as those that place the love of alcohol or any (person place or thing) above the love of their children, family, friends and oneself should also seek some type of treatment Loving God is loving our chrildren, again. - Ephesians 6:4 4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. - 2 Corinthians 12:14 14 Behold, the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. - Colossians 3:21 21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged. - Psalm 103:13 13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth them that fear him. -------------- And many many more. If we love God and obey his commandments, we will love and charish our children. We won't neglect them, we won't do anything foul or bring any form of harm to the child. We will love the children as they are to be loved. So what's your point Funches? |
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50 reasons to NOT be a fan of Jesus?
Hmmmmmm, I got nothing. |
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funches
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Sat 06/02/12 01:39 PM
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all of the disciples of Jesus loved him above all others....but yet in the end they all betrayed him by fleeing
I guess when you see a sword about to be stuck in your apse one tends to ask oneself..."do I really love Jesus above my own life" |
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all of the disciples of Jesus loved him above all others....but yet in the end they all betrayed him by fleeing I guess when you see a sword about to be stuck in your apse one tends to ask oneself..."do I really love Jesus above my own life" They all did? Please give this knowledge, for I only know of one that betrayed Jesus, Judas. He did it three times, but nevertheless, he is the only one I know of that betrayed him. Who else betrayed Jesus that I do not know of? I guess when you see a sword about to be stuck in your apse one tends to ask oneself..."do I really love Jesus above my own life" And that is their own lacking of faith and trust in God. There is nothing, that can't be done... with me and God. There's nothing that will come between... me and God. We're like two peas in a pod... me and God. With God, nothing can defeat you, so why worry about what they may think they can do to you by remaining in servitude of God? |
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all of the disciples of Jesus loved him above all others....but yet in the end they all betrayed him by fleeing I guess when you see a sword about to be stuck in your apse one tends to ask oneself..."do I really love Jesus above my own life" I guess when you see a sword about to be stuck in your apse one tends to ask oneself..."do I really love Jesus above my own life" And there is no sword up anything my friend. Death is the automatic ending of life. Jesus offers the gift of eternal life. Death is not a punishment put on an individual person for their disobedience. Death was put on the entire world as a punishment for our disobedience in the Garden of Eden. It's not an obey or die thing. It's an obey me and live thing. |
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They all did? Please give this knowledge, for I only know of one that betrayed Jesus, Judas. He did it three times, but nevertheless, he is the only one I know of that betrayed him. Cowboy...are you sure it was Judas that betrayed or denied Jesus three times? your answer will move the number to atleast two of those disciples that betrayed Jesus...and if you read the story further you will find out that rest of the disciples betrayed him by fleeing Who else betrayed Jesus that I do not know of? you did...didn't you admit to intentionally sinning? |
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50 reasons to NOT be a fan of Jesus? Hmmmmmm, I got nothing. so true,, a great quote for christians trying to understand anti Jesus statements George MacDonald, c. 1875 Man finds it hard to get what he wants, because he does not want the best; God finds it hard to give, because he would give the best, and man will not take it. |
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And there is no sword up anything my friend. Death is the automatic ending of life. Jesus offers the gift of eternal life. Death is not a punishment put on an individual person for their disobedience. Death was put on the entire world as a punishment for our disobedience in the Garden of Eden. It's not an obey or die thing. It's an obey me and live thing. apparently the disciples didn't believe any of that in the midst of running for their lives when one's life is in jeopardy one immediately tends to worry about their life...not the after-life.....and religon gets tossed out the window |
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They all did? Please give this knowledge, for I only know of one that betrayed Jesus, Judas. He did it three times, but nevertheless, he is the only one I know of that betrayed him. Cowboy...are you sure it was Judas that betrayed or denied Jesus three times? your answer will move the number to atleast two of those disciples that betrayed Jesus...and if you read the story further you will find out that rest of the disciples betrayed him by fleeing Who else betrayed Jesus that I do not know of? you did...didn't you admit to intentionally sinning? Sinning is not "betraying" God. Sinning is being disobedient. It's not denying God in any shape or form. Again, what are you talking about? |
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And there is no sword up anything my friend. Death is the automatic ending of life. Jesus offers the gift of eternal life. Death is not a punishment put on an individual person for their disobedience. Death was put on the entire world as a punishment for our disobedience in the Garden of Eden. It's not an obey or die thing. It's an obey me and live thing. apparently the disciples didn't believe any of that in the midst of running for their lives when one's life is in jeopardy one immediately tends to worry about their life...not the after-life.....and religon gets tossed out the window There is no such thing as "Afterlife". You're either alive through Jesus Christ, or dead in your sins. |
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i could never imagine being ashamed of God, let alone thinking of 50 reasons why... didnt even want to bother reading them.... sad... praying for those who are....
as for cowboy saying there is no afterlife... so true... we live on with the promise of our Lord... i cant wait for that day... God is good... all the time! |
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