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| Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus | |
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Sinning is not "betraying" God. Sinning is being disobedient. It's not denying God in any shape or form. Again, what are you talking about? didn't one of the disciples deny Jesus three times..clearly denying that you know you leader makes you a traitor...which is why it's a betrayal since all sins are the same...all sins are a betrayal ...perhaps that fact will stop you from believing you have some God given right to go around intentionally sinning Jesus taught the disciples the mysteries of Heaven so they knew about Death, but when it came down to their lives...they place their love of their life above that of Jesus therefore they could no longer meet with Jesus's demand that his followers love him above all ...they at that point in time were no longer disciples now do you see how that works....once you start loving your life and the lives of your family friends and children above that of Jesus...you now understand what love is, and are therefore cured of hate and can no longer be a Christian disciple ... |
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There is no such thing as "Afterlife". You're either alive through Jesus Christ, or dead in your sins. if there is an After-Death..then there is an After-Life ...simple logic |
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i could never imagine being ashamed of God, let alone thinking of 50 reasons why... didnt even want to bother reading them.... sad... praying for those who are.... as for cowboy saying there is no afterlife... so true... we live on with the promise of our Lord... i cant wait for that day... God is good... all the time! you always hear believing claiming that they can't wait for that day....but once they get sick or get hurt what is the first thing they do...they scurry off to the doctor and do everything in their power to stop that day for taking place .... which sort of press the point that all believers are Agnostics |
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Sinning is not "betraying" God. Sinning is being disobedient. It's not denying God in any shape or form. Again, what are you talking about? didn't one of the disciples deny Jesus three times..clearly denying that you know you leader makes you a traitor...which is why it's a betrayal since all sins are the same...all sins are a betrayal ...perhaps that fact will stop you from believing you have some God given right to go around intentionally sinning Jesus taught the disciples the mysteries of Heaven so they knew about Death, but when it came down to their lives...they place their love of their life above that of Jesus therefore they could no longer meet with Jesus's demand that his followers love him above all ...they at that point in time were no longer disciples now do you see how that works....once you start loving your life and the lives of your family friends and children above that of Jesus...you now understand what love is, and are therefore cured of hate and can no longer be a Christian disciple ... What you are talknig about? Oh I'm sorry, did a little more research. Seems Judas and Peter both "betrayed" Jesus. Judas was possessed by Satan and Peter denied Jesus 3 times to save his own rear. And all but one sin is the same in the fact that they can be forgiven. Jesus taught the disciples the mysteries of Heaven so they knew about Death, but when it came down to their lives...they place their love of their life above that of Jesus therefore they could no longer meet with Jesus's demand that his followers love him above all ...they at that point in time were no longer disciples now do you see how that works....once you start loving your life and the lives of your family friends and children above that of Jesus...you now understand what love is, and are therefore cured of hate and can no longer be a Christian disciple ... What are you talking about? 1. Yes Jesus did teach them the mysterious of Heaven, but that doesn't mean they put the love of their lives above Jesus. We're speaking of 2 people out of 12. And you're making it seem like all to most of his disciples did this. 2. When did they become not discples? What are you talking about again? When could they not meet? |
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i could never imagine being ashamed of God, let alone thinking of 50 reasons why... didnt even want to bother reading them.... sad... praying for those who are.... as for cowboy saying there is no afterlife... so true... we live on with the promise of our Lord... i cant wait for that day... God is good... all the time! you always hear believing claiming that they can't wait for that day....but once they get sick or get hurt what is the first thing they do...they scurry off to the doctor and do everything in their power to stop that day for taking place .... which sort of press the point that all believers are Agnostics Again, what are you talking about? People don't go to the doctor so they can live longer, per say. They go to the doctor so he can give them some medicine or something and make them feel better while they are living. |
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Oh I'm sorry, did a little more research. Seems Judas and Peter both "betrayed" Jesus. Judas was possessed by Satan and Peter denied Jesus 3 times to save his own rear. And all but one sin is the same in the fact that they can be forgiven. Jeez you just can't get a break on that "Free WIll" deal if you obey God like a puppet then you have "Free Will" but if you betray God by sinning then you're possessed by Satan and don't have "Free WIll" in that case apparently all the disciples were possessed by Satan..because they all betrayed Jesus only Peter out of the 12 disciples didn't betray Jesus by fleeing....Peter betrayal came in the form of denying that he knew Jesus if they were so willing to betray Jesus the one they supposedly loved above all others...imagine the betrayal they are willing to do against their children, family and friends this is another example of why one should place their children first above all others....if not....then seek help or don't have children |
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Again, what are you talking about? People don't go to the doctor so they can live longer, per say. They go to the doctor so he can give them some medicine or something and make them feel better while they are living. there are no Atheists in a foxhole and no Believers in the Doctor's Office |
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Oh I'm sorry, did a little more research. Seems Judas and Peter both "betrayed" Jesus. Judas was possessed by Satan and Peter denied Jesus 3 times to save his own rear. And all but one sin is the same in the fact that they can be forgiven. Jeez you just can't get a break on that "Free WIll" deal if you obey God like a puppet then you have "Free Will" but if you betray God by sinning then you're possessed by Satan and don't have "Free WIll" in that case apparently all the disciples were possessed by Satan..because they all betrayed Jesus only Peter out of the 12 disciples didn't betray Jesus by fleeing....Peter betrayal came in the form of denying that he knew Jesus if they were so willing to betray Jesus the one they supposedly loved above all others...imagine the betrayal they are willing to do against their children, family and friends this is another example of why one should place their children first above all others....if not....then seek help or don't have children if you obey God like a puppet then you have "Free Will" If you obey God like a puppet, you would have no free will Funches. That would be God physicallying controlling your every action. God does not do that, thus you have free will. No, if you betray God, you have chosen to do that action. You decided to betray God, what are you talking about? Didn't say everyone that disobeys God is possessed by Satan. Luke 22:3 3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve. |
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Again, what are you talking about? People don't go to the doctor so they can live longer, per say. They go to the doctor so he can give them some medicine or something and make them feel better while they are living. there are no Atheists in a foxhole and no Believers in the Doctor's Office Why wouldn't there be a believer in the doctor's office? God works through people. |
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If you obey God like a puppet, you would have no free will Funches In the land of Commandments..."Free Will" can't not exist |
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Why wouldn't there be a believer in the doctor's office? God works through people. hummm...so people are the robots of God |
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If you obey God like a puppet, you would have no free will Funches In the land of Commandments..."Free Will" can't not exist Sure it can, for again you obey by choice. Regardless of the outcome of either obedience or disobedience, you still have a choice. A computer has no choice but to do what you tell it to do. A person chooses if they do it or not do it, thus free will. |
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Why wouldn't there be a believer in the doctor's office? God works through people. hummm...so people are the robots of God No, just God gives people the things they ask and or need when they come to him for help and or guidance. |
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Didn't say everyone that disobeys God is possessed by Satan. why else would a follower dare to disobey God... |
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Sure it can, for again you obey by choice. Free Will and Obey is a contradiction |
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Didn't say everyone that disobeys God is possessed by Satan. why else would a follower dare to disobey God... Free will, and pride. Same reason a child disobeys their parent. Because they choose to. |
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Sure it can, for again you obey by choice. Free Will and Obey is a contradiction How so? You'll need to elaborate on that. If there was no free will, there would be no need to "obey" because we would automatically do it without thought, without using our own will to do that in question. |
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Why wouldn't there be a believer in the doctor's office? God works through people. hummm...so people are the robots of God No, just God gives people the things they ask and or need when they come to him for help and or guidance. if God works through people...then heal thyself...not run to a Doctor |
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Didn't say everyone that disobeys God is possessed by Satan. why else would a follower dare to disobey God... Free will, and pride. Same reason a child disobeys their parent. Because they choose to. so followers have the minds of children? |
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Why wouldn't there be a believer in the doctor's office? God works through people. hummm...so people are the robots of God No, just God gives people the things they ask and or need when they come to him for help and or guidance. if God works through people...then heal thyself...not run to a Doctor If someone wholeheartedly prays for being healed, they will. There are lots of healings that come from prayer. People have gotten back to walking through prayer when medical laws said they would never walk again and so on. There are many miracles out there if one pays attention. |
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