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Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/04/12 09:48 AM
I don't worship anyone else, I only worship God the father through Jesus Christ his son. Cowboy...you have posted that you did in fact worship Jesus...so let's get it on the record are you claiming that you don't worship Jesus as God? Jesus is OUR God. OUR authority. Notice he always says for instance Do not tempt the LORD "THY" God. And the verse that says I am the LORD "THY" God that brought you out of Egypt. Unless you know of a verse that Jesus just plainly says he is God. Cowboy..do you worship Jesus as God...yes or no? Yes, he is OUR God. so you worship the father and you worship Jesus ...so you worship two individuals ....

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 07/04/12 09:48 AM
I don't worship anyone else, I only worship God the father through Jesus Christ his son. Cowboy...you have posted that you did in fact worship Jesus...so let's get it on the record are you claiming that you don't worship Jesus as God? Jesus is OUR God. OUR authority. Notice he always says for instance Do not tempt the LORD "THY" God. And the verse that says I am the LORD "THY" God that brought you out of Egypt. Unless you know of a verse that Jesus just plainly says he is God. And is why when Jesus was on the cross he cried "My God, My God". Because his father has authority over him. sorry but the Romans had Title of Authority of his apse They had very little authority over him. Matthew 10:28 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/04/12 09:50 AM
They had very little authority over him. when someone have you nailed to a cross crying for your Father ...then they have authority over you

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 07/04/12 09:52 AM
I don't worship anyone else, I only worship God the father through Jesus Christ his son. Cowboy...you have posted that you did in fact worship Jesus...so let's get it on the record are you claiming that you don't worship Jesus as God? Jesus is OUR God. OUR authority. Notice he always says for instance Do not tempt the LORD "THY" God. And the verse that says I am the LORD "THY" God that brought you out of Egypt. Unless you know of a verse that Jesus just plainly says he is God. Cowboy..do you worship Jesus as God...yes or no? Yes, he is OUR God. so you worship the father and you worship Jesus ...so you worship two individuals .... I worship God the father through Jesus Christ, the LORD God. I love and obey Jesus' commands I am loving and obeying God the father's commands. Jesus is the way, the path to the father. But nevertheless God the father comes first.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 07/04/12 09:55 AM
They had very little authority over him. when someone have you nailed to a cross crying for your Father ...then they have authority over you Matthew 10:28 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/04/12 09:57 AM
I worship God the father through Jesus Christ, finally a Christian that do not worship Jesus ..congrads Cowboy

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/04/12 10:00 AM
They had very little authority over him. when someone have you nailed to a cross crying for your Father ...then they have authority over you Matthew 10:28 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. the romans had the authority to send Jesus to Hell for three days......and according to you title of authority makes you God

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 07/04/12 10:03 AM
They had very little authority over him. when someone have you nailed to a cross crying for your Father ...then they have authority over you Matthew 10:28 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. the romans had the authority to send Jesus to Hell for three days......and according to you title of authority makes you God The Romans didn't send Jesus to Hell for three days. He went to hell for three days. He could have stopped it if he wanted to, but that would not be fulfilled the prophecies, the plan that was being set forth.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 07/04/12 10:04 AM
I worship God the father through Jesus Christ, finally a Christian that do not worship Jesus ..congrads Cowboy No, I worship Jesus Christ. Worshiping Jesus Christ is following the will of God the father, therefore worshiping God the father as well. Thus Jesus is the way to God the father, he is the path.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 07/04/12 10:05 AM
They had very little authority over him. when someone have you nailed to a cross crying for your Father ...then they have authority over you Matthew 10:28 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. the romans had the authority to send Jesus to Hell for three days......and according to you title of authority makes you God The Romans didn't send Jesus to Hell for three days. He went to hell for three days. He could have stopped it if he wanted to, but that would not be fulfilled the prophecies, the plan that was being set forth. He died, so you would not have to. So no one would have to if they accepted the gift he did when he laid down his life for us all.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/04/12 10:06 AM
I worship God the father through Jesus Christ, finally a Christian that do not worship Jesus ..congrads Cowboy No, I worship Jesus Christ. Worshiping Jesus Christ is following the will of God the father, therefore worshiping God the father as well. Thus Jesus is the way to God the father, he is the path. oh so you do worship two individuals ....

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/04/12 10:09 AM
They had very little authority over him. when someone have you nailed to a cross crying for your Father ...then they have authority over you Matthew 10:28 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. the romans had the authority to send Jesus to Hell for three days......and according to you title of authority makes you God The Romans didn't send Jesus to Hell for three days. He went to hell for three days. He could have stopped it if he wanted to, but that would not be fulfilled the prophecies, the plan that was being set forth. He died, so you would not have to. So no one would have to if they accepted the gift he did when he laid down his life for us all. in that case...it's good that the romans were God and had the wisdom and the title of authority to kill Jesus

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 07/04/12 10:09 AM
I worship God the father through Jesus Christ, finally a Christian that do not worship Jesus ..congrads Cowboy No, I worship Jesus Christ. Worshiping Jesus Christ is following the will of God the father, therefore worshiping God the father as well. Thus Jesus is the way to God the father, he is the path. oh so you do worship two individuals .... Yes, but they are one God. For again "God" means figure of authority. Jesus is the one whom created us eg., LORD God.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/04/12 10:10 AM
The Romans didn't send Jesus to Hell for three days. He went to hell for three days. He could have stopped it if he wanted to, but that would not be fulfilled the prophecies, the plan that was being set forth. Jesus couldn't stop anything...he was crying like a baby on the cross

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 07/04/12 10:11 AM
They had very little authority over him. when someone have you nailed to a cross crying for your Father ...then they have authority over you Matthew 10:28 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. the romans had the authority to send Jesus to Hell for three days......and according to you title of authority makes you God The Romans didn't send Jesus to Hell for three days. He went to hell for three days. He could have stopped it if he wanted to, but that would not be fulfilled the prophecies, the plan that was being set forth. He died, so you would not have to. So no one would have to if they accepted the gift he did when he laid down his life for us all. in that case...it's good that the romans were God and had the wisdom and the title of authority to kill Jesus They killed his flesh, they did not kill Jesus. You are not of this flesh, this flesh is temporary. Matthew 10:28 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. And is why/how Jesus resurrected on the third day. Because death could not hold his soul and he defeated death for us all.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/04/12 10:13 AM
I worship God the father through Jesus Christ, finally a Christian that do not worship Jesus ..congrads Cowboy No, I worship Jesus Christ. Worshiping Jesus Christ is following the will of God the father, therefore worshiping God the father as well. Thus Jesus is the way to God the father, he is the path. oh so you do worship two individuals .... Yes, but they are one God. For again "God" means figure of authority. Jesus is the one whom created us eg., LORD God. doesn't matter...you still worship two different individuals...that's Polytheism

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/04/12 10:15 AM
They killed his flesh, they did not kill Jesus. You are not of this flesh, this flesh is temporary. Jesus being dead on the cross and in Hell is proof enough that the Romans killed him

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 07/04/12 10:18 AM
I worship God the father through Jesus Christ, finally a Christian that do not worship Jesus ..congrads Cowboy No, I worship Jesus Christ. Worshiping Jesus Christ is following the will of God the father, therefore worshiping God the father as well. Thus Jesus is the way to God the father, he is the path. oh so you do worship two individuals .... Yes, but they are one God. For again "God" means figure of authority. Jesus is the one whom created us eg., LORD God. doesn't matter...you still worship two different individuals...that's Polytheism Incorrect Polytheism - The belief in or worship of more than one god. Jesus and the Father are one God, they are one authority to us. They work in accordance with one another. One doesn't say this but the other says that, they are one.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/04/12 10:20 AM
Jesus and the Father are one God, Cowboy you claimed in this forum many times that The Father and Jesus were two seperate individuals..... is this true of not?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Wed 07/04/12 10:21 AM
They killed his flesh, they did not kill Jesus. You are not of this flesh, this flesh is temporary. Jesus being dead on the cross and in Hell is proof enough that the Romans killed him If they killed him, how did he rise the third day? He would be dead if they killed "him". They killed his flesh, yes this much is true. But they did not kill him, for he defeated death for us all when he resurrected.