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Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/04/12 05:53 PM
And again not polytheism. Polytheism is multiple Gods. Jesus and the father are one God, one authority. Cowboy..you already admitted that you worship two seperate individuals ....two means multiple ...hence polytheism Two separate persons that make up one God. So I worship one God. nowhere in the Holy or in The Unholy bible does it states that God is two or three persons.... but it probably does state that in the Pantheist Bible Cowboy..you can be the Pantheist Messiah of Mingle2 Behold for I have not come to change the laws of Mingle2 but to pantheize them

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 07/05/12 10:12 AM
And again not polytheism. Polytheism is multiple Gods. Jesus and the father are one God, one authority. Cowboy..you already admitted that you worship two seperate individuals ....two means multiple ...hence polytheism Two separate persons that make up one God. So I worship one God. nowhere in the Holy or in The Unholy bible does it states that God is two or three persons.... but it probably does state that in the Pantheist Bible Cowboy..you can be the Pantheist Messiah of Mingle2 Behold for I have not come to change the laws of Mingle2 but to pantheize them These verses will shed some light on it. 1 Corinthians 8 5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him ------------- Exodus 23:25 25 And ye shall serve the Lord your God, and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee. -------------- When ever it speaks of Jesus or the LORD, it always says YOUR God. Again, this is because "God" means authority and or person/being of authority. When Jesus spoke of his father, he never referred to him as your father, or your God. Always said his father, his God. Even when on the cross he cried out "my God, my God". He didn't just say God. And there's many verses of Jesus saying no other Gods before him. It's not that there is no other Gods. Just we serve the one and true God over us all, the creator of Earth and Heavens, Jesus Christ.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 07/05/12 10:19 AM
And again not polytheism. Polytheism is multiple Gods. Jesus and the father are one God, one authority. Cowboy..you already admitted that you worship two seperate individuals ....two means multiple ...hence polytheism Two separate persons that make up one God. So I worship one God. nowhere in the Holy or in The Unholy bible does it states that God is two or three persons.... but it probably does state that in the Pantheist Bible Cowboy..you can be the Pantheist Messiah of Mingle2 Behold for I have not come to change the laws of Mingle2 but to pantheize them These verses will shed some light on it. 1 Corinthians 8 5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him ------------- Exodus 23:25 25 And ye shall serve the Lord your God, and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee. -------------- When ever it speaks of Jesus or the LORD, it always says YOUR God. Again, this is because "God" means authority and or person/being of authority. When Jesus spoke of his father, he never referred to him as your father, or your God. Always said his father, his God. Even when on the cross he cried out "my God, my God". He didn't just say God. And there's many verses of Jesus saying no other Gods before him. It's not that there is no other Gods. Just we serve the one and true God over us all, the creator of Earth and Heavens, Jesus Christ. I wish to bring attention especially to this verse 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him Notice it says "but to us" there is but one God, the Father. That is because again the word "god" means authority. To us there is only one being that has authority in our lives and that is God the father whom sent his only begotten son to give us the laws and tell us what to do or not do. So then when we serve Jesus Christ, we are doing the will of the father, thus serving one God.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 07/05/12 11:04 AM
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him Cowboy...you're proving my point...God the Father is the only God you should be worshipping... also the passage you presented refer to Jesus as "Lord Jesus Christ" ...nothing about Jesus being "Lord God" or a "God" period remember you tried to claim that Jesus was "Lord God" in Genesis...well the verse you presented just kicked Jesus out of Genesis ...

johnny4132012 Joined Tue 07/03/12 Posts: 2	Thu 07/05/12 11:10 AM
Its Not hard at all to refute this article,in fact its easy! in order to be able to call it truth,it actually needs to be based in truth. this article is far from truth. all points are very much taken out of context,time frame,who it was written to and why. the bible is not a book to be read from cover to cover, it is a library divided into two sections. you cannot take one section and cobble it with another section out of context. what you end up with is a horrible book that no one would want to follow! your paper has nothing to do with our lord and Savior,nor what he came here to accomplish. It is an evil hate filled paper,based in untruths,put together by someone being used by Satan.It is sad to see someone who has so little hope as the author who wrote this. If he would but turn to Jesus, who loves him, there would be much hope in his life. the Bible Is an irrefutable Truth left Here by God so that no man will be with out excuse. On the Day he returns every knee Will bow and EVERY tongue will confess. Scary to bee on the side this author is on, and worse for him any who follow! Jesus is the truth and the light, and he who believes and is baptized, should have ever lasting life. Don't be discourage followers,by rags such as this, or to those on the fence.Jesus does not want to destroy families he wants your commitment to put him first,in your life.God is love,and the real truth is,it is only us that separates us from his truth. he wants all of us to have a relationship with him,he sent his only son,as a perfect sacrifice for sin,So that all men might have inherited a son-ship with God. Wow Gods children,What a Friend We have in Jesus!

johnny4132012 Joined Tue 07/03/12 Posts: 2	Thu 07/05/12 11:17 AM
Courageous! awesome christian movie!

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 07/05/12 11:39 AM
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him Cowboy...you're proving my point...God the Father is the only God you should be worshipping... also the passage you presented refer to Jesus as "Lord Jesus Christ" ...nothing about Jesus being "Lord God" or a "God" period remember you tried to claim that Jesus was "Lord God" in Genesis...well the verse you presented just kicked Jesus out of Genesis ... How did that kick Jesus our of Genesis? God the father is the only God I worship. I worship God the father through Jesus Christ, our LORD God.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 07/05/12 12:08 PM
POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God the father is the only God I worship. POSTED BY COWBOY 2: No, I worship Jesus Christ. ok ...now who do "Cowboy 3" worship?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 07/05/12 01:06 PM
POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God the father is the only God I worship. POSTED BY COWBOY 2: No, I worship Jesus Christ. ok ...now who do "Cowboy 3" worship? Yeah, with worshiping Jesus I worship the father. AGAIN, I worship the Father THROUGH Jesus Christ. Worshiping Jesus, obeying Jesus, is obeying and worshiping the father. For Jesus came to do his father's will, gave us the laws his father desires. In the Christian belief, we don't have rightuals, we don't do anything like that to worship our God. We worship by our obedience and our everyday life.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 07/05/12 04:25 PM
POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God the father is the only God I worship. POSTED BY COWBOY 2: No, I worship Jesus Christ. ok ...now who do "Cowboy 3" worship? Yeah, with worshiping Jesus I worship the father. AGAIN, I worship the Father THROUGH Jesus Christ. Worshiping Jesus, obeying Jesus, is obeying and worshiping the father. For Jesus came to do his father's will, gave us the laws his father desires. In the Christian belief, we don't have rightuals, we don't do anything like that to worship our God. We worship by our obedience and our everyday life. Cowboy 1...worships only The Father Cowboy 2...worships only Jesus Cowboy 3...worships both Jesus and The Father don't anyone ever worship the Holy Spirit...poor Holy Spirit...but anyway two of you Cowboys that worship that other than the Father are going to be tossed into the lake of Fire that's an interesting concept..as two of you Cowboys are getting your apses roasted in the fire will the third Cowboy feel it

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 07/05/12 04:35 PM
POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God the father is the only God I worship. POSTED BY COWBOY 2: No, I worship Jesus Christ. ok ...now who do "Cowboy 3" worship? Yeah, with worshiping Jesus I worship the father. AGAIN, I worship the Father THROUGH Jesus Christ. Worshiping Jesus, obeying Jesus, is obeying and worshiping the father. For Jesus came to do his father's will, gave us the laws his father desires. In the Christian belief, we don't have rightuals, we don't do anything like that to worship our God. We worship by our obedience and our everyday life. Cowboy 1...worships only The Father Cowboy 2...worships only Jesus Cowboy 3...worships both Jesus and The Father don't anyone ever worship the Holy Spirit...poor Holy Spirit...but anyway two of you Cowboys that worship that other than the Father are going to be tossed into the lake of Fire that's an interesting concept..as two of you Cowboys are getting your apses roasted in the fire will the third Cowboy feel it What are you talking about? I worship God the father through his son Jesus Christ. I have never said differently. Worshiping Jesus Christ is worshiping the Father all in one bang. Doing the will of Jesus is doing the will of the father, they are one, he came to do the father's will. I've never even said I only worship one or the other. Luke 12:10 10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven. How could this be if they were the exact same person/being? It couldn't. This is but another example of them being separate persons/being but one God.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 07/05/12 04:41 PM
POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God the father is the only God I worship. POSTED BY COWBOY 2: No, I worship Jesus Christ. ok ...now who do "Cowboy 3" worship? Yeah, with worshiping Jesus I worship the father. AGAIN, I worship the Father THROUGH Jesus Christ. Worshiping Jesus, obeying Jesus, is obeying and worshiping the father. For Jesus came to do his father's will, gave us the laws his father desires. In the Christian belief, we don't have rightuals, we don't do anything like that to worship our God. We worship by our obedience and our everyday life. Cowboy 1...worships only The Father Cowboy 2...worships only Jesus Cowboy 3...worships both Jesus and The Father don't anyone ever worship the Holy Spirit...poor Holy Spirit...but anyway two of you Cowboys that worship that other than the Father are going to be tossed into the lake of Fire that's an interesting concept..as two of you Cowboys are getting your apses roasted in the fire will the third Cowboy feel it What are you talking about? I worship God the father through his son Jesus Christ. I have never said differently. Worshiping Jesus Christ is worshiping the Father all in one bang. Doing the will of Jesus is doing the will of the father, they are one, he came to do the father's will. I've never even said I only worship one or the other. Luke 12:10 10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven. How could this be if they were the exact same person/being? It couldn't. This is but another example of them being separate persons/being but one God. And again, it's not there aren't other Gods. It's that we worship only one God. We don't put any other god's before our God. Deuteronomy 10:17 17 For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward: Notice, "God of gods". And this one puts a little light on why Christianity is a montheism. Because we obey and worship one God. God the father, through Jesus Christ. Whom was sent to fulfill the old covenant and give us a new. Exodus 20:3 3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Deuteronomy 5:7 7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.

dmle Joined Tue 11/03/09 Posts: 147	Thu 07/05/12 06:43 PM
Boy! Jesus sucks. Satan rules.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 07/06/12 04:48 AM
POSTED BY COWBOY 1 I've never even said I only worship one or the other. POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God the father is the only God I worship. Cowboy...do the truth even exist in you my Son? have you ever consider that you might be a pathological liar?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 07/06/12 05:01 AM
In the Christian belief, we don't have rightuals, we don't do anything like that to worship our God. We worship by our obedience and our everyday life. but Cowboy after pages and pages of debate I finally got you to admit that you weren't a Christian and that you didn't follow Christianity ....you claim to be only a child of God so is your post and indication that you're ready to go to the DMV and renew your Christian I.D. Card?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 07/06/12 05:42 AM
POSTED BY COWBOY 1 I've never even said I only worship one or the other. POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God the father is the only God I worship. Cowboy...do the truth even exist in you my Son? have you ever consider that you might be a pathological liar? Yeah, I worship God the father through Jesus Christ. You can't worship God the father without first going through Jesus Christ.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 07/06/12 06:53 AM
POSTED BY COWBOY 1 I've never even said I only worship one or the other. POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God the father is the only God I worship. Cowboy...do the truth even exist in you my Son? have you ever consider that you might be a pathological liar? Yeah, I worship God the father through Jesus Christ. You can't worship God the father without first going through Jesus Christ. the Jews can

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 07/06/12 06:57 AM
POSTED BY COWBOY 1 I've never even said I only worship one or the other. POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God the father is the only God I worship. Cowboy...do the truth even exist in you my Son? have you ever consider that you might be a pathological liar? Yeah, I worship God the father through Jesus Christ. You can't worship God the father without first going through Jesus Christ. the Jews can Nobody can, Jesus is the only way to the Father.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 07/06/12 07:00 AM
POSTED BY COWBOY 1 I've never even said I only worship one or the other. POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God the father is the only God I worship. Cowboy...do the truth even exist in you my Son? have you ever consider that you might be a pathological liar? Yeah, I worship God the father through Jesus Christ. You can't worship God the father without first going through Jesus Christ. the Jews can Nobody can, Jesus is the only way to the Father. Moses would call you a liar

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 07/06/12 07:01 AM
POSTED BY COWBOY 1 I've never even said I only worship one or the other. POSTED BY COWBOY 1: God the father is the only God I worship. Cowboy...do the truth even exist in you my Son? have you ever consider that you might be a pathological liar? Yeah, I worship God the father through Jesus Christ. You can't worship God the father without first going through Jesus Christ. the Jews can Nobody can, Jesus is the only way to the Father. Moses would call you a liar I don't care what Moses would say. And why would he call me a liar? What's your scriptual evidence he believed differently? The only one that matters of what they said, is Jesus. And he said the following. John 14:6 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.