Topic: What is nothing? Physicists debate
mightymoe's photo
Thu 05/23/13 08:00 AM





In science, there is evidence that the micro world is created by the observer. When the observer is not observing, what happens? It ceases to exist.

The most astounding experiment of quantum physics in recent scientific discovery is probably the double-slit experiment.

It is the experiment that shows the entire universe exists by being experienced.

The Observer Creates Reality simply by Observing.

Therefore, IF there is an observer, then NOTHING cannot have existence.






sometimes, i really wonder where you come up with this stuff... it only exists if were looking at it?...huh laugh laugh



Quantum physics.

The observer creates reality.




quantum fantasy, not physics... but everyone creates there own reality, so in a way, your a little right...:wink:


In my own reality... I am ALWAYS RIGHT. bigsmile


laugh laugh

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Thu 05/23/13 03:29 PM
laugh laugh laugh :tongue: :banana: :banana:

willing2's photo
Thu 05/23/13 04:02 PM
I looked, but, there is no list of ingredients on my bag of nothing.

Can anyone list the ingredients of nothing?

willing2's photo
Thu 05/23/13 04:02 PM
I looked, but, there is no list of ingredients on my bag of nothing.

Can anyone list the ingredients of nothing?

Leosxl's photo
Sat 05/25/13 09:56 PM
Every event that a human being can think of is a reality that can happen.

Since we were born, we were "something;" we had "something." Consciousness itself is something, even in the deepest of empty spaces. Even if we were to imagine a place without anything (no energy fields, no physical laws, no particles - no mass, etc), the purely act of imagining it turns it into "something." Therefore, is "nothing" just a concept that we created from experiencing many things?

When I child looks inside a box, and there's "nothing" inside, then he/she will eventually say: "It's empty." As the article states, that's a concept that human beings are able to grasp since a young age. But physically speaking, there are many things inside the box. For all that I know, there could be dark matter inside that box!

The only possible way of really turning the theoretical side of "nothing" into reality would be to observe such an odd phenomenon, and so far it didn't happen (as far as I know).

I guess the closest that our minds can get to the concept of nothing is the creation of the Universe itself - the most accepted theory at the moment: the big bang. But even so, what proofs do we have to say that the Universe came from the nothingness? Or even better - how can something be created from nothingness? Or, just like this post says - what is "nothing?"

The meaning is deep, certainly. It's probably something that Philosophers and scientists have been looking through ages and ages, trying to find an answer for something that is long unsolved.

But that why Physics is fun, isn't it? To sit on your chair and think about something "so simple," and find out that it's something really hard to comprehend and answer...it only shows how the Universe and human nature are complex and beautiful.

That is, of course, my opinion on this matter. As a Physicist, I eager for knowledge; however, I also know that I'll die way before many of the mysteries that surrounds me gets solved.

Maybe after I die, I'll be one step closer in finding out what "nothing" really is.

0Landis0's photo
Sun 05/26/13 04:54 AM
There should be no way to prove that nothing exists. If one were to try to detect absence of material one would have to contaminate nothingness.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 05/26/13 05:35 AM
It's The Under-Belly Of Something!
Don't believe me?
Prove me wrong!laugh

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Sun 05/26/13 09:15 PM

It's The Under-Belly Of Something!
Don't believe me?
Prove me wrong!laugh



I'm sure in your reality, you are never wrong.


Conrad_73's photo
Mon 05/27/13 12:10 AM


It's The Under-Belly Of Something!
Don't believe me?
Prove me wrong!laugh



I'm sure in your reality, you are never wrong.


Let this Guy tell you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgcxGFmYyPs

Sargent Schultz - I know nothing, I am not here - I did not even get up this morning! :laughing:

metalwing's photo
Mon 05/27/13 05:47 AM
I just got positive proof of nothing.

It's what is allowed on my new diet!ohwell

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Tue 05/28/13 03:58 AM
Edited by akhil2310 on Tue 05/28/13 04:00 AM
I think nothing means a state in which there is no ENERGY OR MATTER and in most space in universe there is energy or it's condensed form-matter

metalwing's photo
Tue 05/28/13 02:02 PM
It could be the void between two universes in a multiverse system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE7xRgfPjAI

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Thu 06/27/13 11:58 AM
Should a distinction be made between scientific nothing and philosophical nothing?

I think nothing is a mental concept that we apply to the absence of something. Does the absence of something exist still within our minds when we've cognitively negated its existence?

If a room is empty of the object of my search I have created a no thing. That thing does not exist in this room.

Nothing really is where our sense faculties naked or aided by tools fails to find something.

If we go to the edge of the known universe we wont see nothing we will see space with dimensions. Can nothing be nothing if we can measure it?

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Thu 06/27/13 12:03 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/27/13 12:21 PM
Nothing, like infinity, can't be measured. Therefore, according to the scientific method, it does not exist.

To exist, it has to be either matter, or energy. Nothing is neither.

Spirit, is also neither matter or energy. The scientific method cannot confirm, detect, or measure spirit therefor according to the scientific method spirit does not exist.

If a scientist tries to tell you that "nothing" does exist, and that "spirit" does not exist, then he has contradicted himself logically.


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Thu 06/27/13 12:18 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/27/13 12:26 PM
This is a bit of a dilemma for me as I have always concluded that "nothing" does NOT exist and spirit does.

So the solution is in the definition of "existence."

What is it?

If we define existence as either matter or energy and that is all, then "nothing" does not exist. It is neither matter or energy.

So the question becomes, what is the difference between "nothing" and Spirit?"

In this case you have to imagine what these things do.

Nothing... does nothing. Right?

I have contended that Spirit is creative potential, but perhaps it is not the potential, but the thought quanta itself...

What does 'potential' do? It does nothing also, because it is simply potential. Potential doesn't actually do anything.

But I have said that Spirit creates thought quanta and thought quanta is "something." It is feeling. Still, it is neither matter or energy. So spirit does not create thought quanta, it IS thought quanta.

Thought quanta is "the something" that emerges out of the "nothing."
In Biblical terms, it is "the word" or "the holy spirit" itself.

Thought quanta is less detectable than energy particles which are very close to nothing themselves. Thought quanta comes together and forms energy particles, energy particles form matter.

(E=mc 2)

But what this information suggests is that spirit must be moving (vibrating or emerging) in order to exist. If spirit quit emerging, that would be nothing. It would be the death of spirit.

conclusion: Nothing represents the death of spirit.

Spirit quanta is eternal, therefore nothing does not exist.

















dovebear's photo
Tue 07/02/13 11:25 AM
Edited by dovebear on Tue 07/02/13 11:34 AM
There is no such thing as nothingness. You can take any infinitesimal point of space and always find something.

There is no such thing as somethingness. You can take any infinitesimal point of something and always find nothing.

Furthermore, the more you search for something the more nothingness you will find. And the more you search for nothingness the more of something you will find.

The only true things that exists in this universe are oxymoron's and paradox's.

Peace. :D


TBRich's photo
Tue 07/02/13 01:33 PM
One day up near Salinas, Lord, I let her slip away,
She's looking for that home and I hope she finds it,
But I'd trade all of my tomorrows for one single yesterday
To be holding Bobby's body next to mine.

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose,
Nothing, that's all that Bobby left me, yeah,
But feeling good was easy, Lord, when she sang the blues,
Hey, feeling good was good enough for me, hmm hmm,
Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 07/02/13 01:45 PM

One day up near Salinas, Lord, I let her slip away,
She's looking for that home and I hope she finds it,
But I'd trade all of my tomorrows for one single yesterday
To be holding Bobby's body next to mine.

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose,
Nothing, that's all that Bobby left me, yeah,
But feeling good was easy, Lord, when she sang the blues,
Hey, feeling good was good enough for me, hmm hmm,
Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee.
ah,good old Kris Kristofferson.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 07/02/13 01:46 PM
maybe all is just a:

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/4/4d/Brain-fart.giflaugh

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Wed 07/03/13 09:10 PM
Edited by onlyson on Wed 07/03/13 09:18 PM
Someone was wise stating "nothing is so simple a child could understand" However the realization of what nothing is was not given.

Nothing is this: The absence of faith.

Definition of faith is this: faith is being sure

Of what we hope for

And certain of what we do not see.


Even as the scientist's state "empty space is something"

And if someone should argue empty space is nothing then there is only one question for you.... where is your faith?

Because we know from the beginning of time - given to men - that the universe was formed at Gods command, so that what is seen was not made out of what is visible.

And alas all science seeks is that which is not visible. Therefore the definition of nothing is only this: faithlessness, hopelessness.

And we know this definition is true and accurate as children because we know the power in the tongue as adults to speak things into being just as God did!