Topic: Religion and incest
izzyphoto1977's photo
Mon 03/10/14 06:05 PM


But it's so much fun to be evil. hehehe



izzyphoto1977 If you have more fun the way...Is your own choice. I just have a question for you, I hope you can answer.

Why do you want "to work harder on being evil" ?


Isn't the answer in the question? If I say that being evil is more fun then wouldn't it stand to reason that to have even more fun I would want to be more evil?

Brizzlekicks's photo
Mon 03/10/14 07:05 PM
I wish I could post a pic but it won't let me :(.

Bobby1050's photo
Fri 04/11/14 09:34 PM





What I am addressing is what any Christian believes in. All the people came from Adam and Eve. No one else. So based on that everyone is related and we are all, regardless as to where we come from, committing incest when having sex. I don't really think this is true. But when you think of that little fact-let that according to the bible we all come from two people. That we should probably by now be cancer covered retarded mutants from hell. But obviously we aren't mutants. So I would kind of like to know how a religious person would explain that. I should say a religious person who believes in the bible.

I've also heard there are people who think the Earth has only been around for 2000 years. So I guess they think that Jesus created the Earth.


This may seem strange to you OP; but most Christians actually do not believe in the ideas you are postulating in this thread.

Most Christians I know believe in the New Testament but recognize the OT was written by ... well, plagiarizers, is the most polite word I can think of at the moment.

Most educated Christians understand the so called "5 books of Moses" aka the "Torah" was written by priests belonging to the tribes of Judah and Benjamin during the 2nd captivity, circa 586 B.C or so.

Those ignoramuses didn't even know their own history or origins so they stole the history of their captors, changed the names and claimed it for their own.

So called "Mosaic law" was stolen from the code of Hammurabi.

Why do you think Jesus Christ was at constant war w/ the Pharisee's? He knew what the truth was. He knew they were propagating a false religion.

Nearly every Christian I know is aware of this.

As to your actual title of religion and incest though an your OP;...do you know what endogamic marriages are?

As practiced by Judaics?

Incest is rampant in those families. 1st cousin marriages. Uncle/niece and Aunt/nephew marriages are common.

Haven't you ever read the Talmud? Incest is encouraged in the Talmud.

Are you aware there are whole hospitals nowadays whose sole function is to treat jewish genetic disorders? Caused by centuries of endogamic marriages?

That might be an interesting thread topic. Maybe I'll start it. Would this be the right forum for it? Or, is there a more suitable forum?

beedstar's photo
Sat 04/12/14 12:12 AM
Guys please read complete...may annoy some of you due to complicity or nonreligious views...My view..
Every religion has its theory of human evolution... but human being as a product is considerably same evenif belonging to different religion.... this compels me to believe in scientific view of human evolution/genetics/incest and hereditary deseases...
Thought goes like .......
1.earth evolved 430millian yrs ago.
2.man evolved from different species of monkeys on earth some 10000 yrs ago; so ddifferent people have different origin in various parts of world.
3.even if man in particular area evolved from specific species of monkeys.... there occured great genetic variations due to mutations, recombinations, intetracial physical contacts and many more...thats why genetic diversity in world population is very high.
5.genetic variation is at such level that no two individuals are genetically same... variations in genetics are directly related with pedigree distance bbetween relations...e.g. even if parents are genetically distant..say one nigroid and other Caucasian... their children will have close genetic material but not exactly same..and these children will have some genetic resemblance to their uncle as well as maternal uncle..(here uncle n maternal unkle are genetically very distant... their neice/nephews have some genetic resemblance to both) now we can see that a) if there is sexual relation between niece and her maternal uncle(Incest)> child may get hereditary disease.
b) if their is sexual relation between maternal uncle and paternal aunt (not an incest)> their child is verry very less likely to get any hereditary desease as patents of this child are genetically very distant.

Evolution for a large period of time has createf genetic diversity... so we cant say that sexual relationship between any two individuals is an incest...



Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/12/14 03:14 AM

Guys please read complete...may annoy some of you due to complicity or nonreligious views...My view..
Every religion has its theory of human evolution... but human being as a product is considerably same evenif belonging to different religion.... this compels me to believe in scientific view of human evolution/genetics/incest and hereditary deseases...
Thought goes like .......
1.earth evolved 430millian yrs ago.
2.man evolved from different species of monkeys on earth some 10000 yrs ago; so ddifferent people have different origin in various parts of world.
3.even if man in particular area evolved from specific species of monkeys.... there occured great genetic variations due to mutations, recombinations, intetracial physical contacts and many more...thats why genetic diversity in world population is very high.
5.genetic variation is at such level that no two individuals are genetically same... variations in genetics are directly related with pedigree distance bbetween relations...e.g. even if parents are genetically distant..say one nigroid and other Caucasian... their children will have close genetic material but not exactly same..and these children will have some genetic resemblance to their uncle as well as maternal uncle..(here uncle n maternal unkle are genetically very distant... their neice/nephews have some genetic resemblance to both) now we can see that a) if there is sexual relation between niece and her maternal uncle(Incest)> child may get hereditary disease.
b) if their is sexual relation between maternal uncle and paternal aunt (not an incest)> their child is verry very less likely to get any hereditary desease as patents of this child are genetically very distant.

Evolution for a large period of time has createf genetic diversity... so we cant say that sexual relationship between any two individuals is an incest...




do you have any specific Evidence supporting your Timeline?

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Sat 04/12/14 08:25 AM
Edited by alleoops on Sat 04/12/14 08:27 AM

Incest isn't illegal in all countries.

Some believe, it's the obligation of the father to deflower his daughter.


I believe it's legal in Arkansas too.

Bobby1050's photo
Sat 04/12/14 08:36 AM


Incest isn't illegal in all countries.

Some believe, it's the obligation of the father to deflower his daughter.


I believe it's legal in Arkansas too.


Whew! Bill Clinton signed some INTERESTING legislation into law as Governor, huh?

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/12/14 08:59 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 04/12/14 09:01 AM

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Sat 04/12/14 09:38 AM


Incest isn't illegal in all countries.

Some believe, it's the obligation of the father to deflower his daughter.



As much as I love my daughter that thought makes me feel ill. ill

I agree Hippy, and whoever believes incest is an obligation or ok needs crucifying.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/12/14 09:59 AM
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Henry_Makow

Dr.[1]Henry Makow is what you get when you cross a whiny, Warren Farrellian men's rights activist with a paranoid, David Ickian conspiracy theorist. In Makow's warped imagination, the world is being controlled by nefarious Judeo-Masonic/Satanic/Communist forces spearheaded by the Rockefeller Foundation, to which feminism can be attributed as a scheme designed to encourage women not to have children as part of greater depopulation efforts. He also designs board games.[2]

Makow believes that the world is controlled by the satanic Skull and Bones society, which is apparently an Illuminati front group. He knows this because George W. Bush once made the Satanic horn sign.[3] Makow also believes that the Illuminati was created by Kabbalah Jews acting in concert with the Knights Templar.[4] Feminism was apparently created as a way to get women on their side, and to encourage women to hate men, deign not to have children and take jobs outside of the home to reduce the population (the conspirators furthermore encourage homosexuality for the same reason). Makow refers to this as "the psychological sterilization of the human female", and naturally believes [A] that the proper place of women is barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and that all career women are covertly miserable on the inside.[5] Like some MGTOWers, and all too many mail order bride websites, he advocates that western men try marrying Asian women under the belief that they are more traditionally submissive, and has even written a decidedly creepy book about his experiences shopping for a bride in the Philippines[6]. Makow also believes in Federal Reserve crankery, and that Ezra Pound[wp] was going to blow the whistle on the Fed and then was jailed.[5]

laugh laugh laugh

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/12/14 12:53 PM


Incest isn't illegal in all countries.

Some believe, it's the obligation of the father to deflower his daughter.


I believe it's legal in Arkansas too.


isn't 'pursuit of happinesss' one of those inalienable/unalienable rights


if two grown consenting adults are happy together, what 'right' should society/government have to tell them they cant be because of their gender OR their family history?


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Sat 04/12/14 01:00 PM



Incest isn't illegal in all countries.

Some believe, it's the obligation of the father to deflower his daughter.


I believe it's legal in Arkansas too.


isn't 'pursuit of happinesss' one of those inalienable/unalienable rights


if two grown consenting adults are happy together, what 'right' should society/government have to tell them they cant be because of their gender OR their family history?



It was you who said being gay was an illness.
So is incest an illness

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/12/14 01:06 PM



Incest isn't illegal in all countries.

Some believe, it's the obligation of the father to deflower his daughter.


I believe it's legal in Arkansas too.


isn't 'pursuit of happinesss' one of those inalienable/unalienable rights


if two grown consenting adults are happy together, what 'right' should society/government have to tell them they cant be because of their gender OR their family history?




they produce genetically damaged offspring...

no1phD's photo
Sat 04/12/14 01:16 PM
.. I have a question.
is incest or inbreeding.
. frowned upon in the Bible..?.. in other words does the maker of all of us.. look down upon it... I will wait for your reply..hmm...hmmm...hmm..hmmmm...hmm...hmmm.hmmm..hmm..hmmm.hmmm... okay you're busy I'll come back in a little bit....lol

izzyphoto1977's photo
Sat 04/12/14 03:15 PM






What I am addressing is what any Christian believes in. All the people came from Adam and Eve. No one else. So based on that everyone is related and we are all, regardless as to where we come from, committing incest when having sex. I don't really think this is true. But when you think of that little fact-let that according to the bible we all come from two people. That we should probably by now be cancer covered retarded mutants from hell. But obviously we aren't mutants. So I would kind of like to know how a religious person would explain that. I should say a religious person who believes in the bible.

I've also heard there are people who think the Earth has only been around for 2000 years. So I guess they think that Jesus created the Earth.


This may seem strange to you OP; but most Christians actually do not believe in the ideas you are postulating in this thread.

Most Christians I know believe in the New Testament but recognize the OT was written by ... well, plagiarizers, is the most polite word I can think of at the moment.

Most educated Christians understand the so called "5 books of Moses" aka the "Torah" was written by priests belonging to the tribes of Judah and Benjamin during the 2nd captivity, circa 586 B.C or so.

Those ignoramuses didn't even know their own history or origins so they stole the history of their captors, changed the names and claimed it for their own.

So called "Mosaic law" was stolen from the code of Hammurabi.

Why do you think Jesus Christ was at constant war w/ the Pharisee's? He knew what the truth was. He knew they were propagating a false religion.

Nearly every Christian I know is aware of this.

As to your actual title of religion and incest though an your OP;...do you know what endogamic marriages are?

As practiced by Judaics?

Incest is rampant in those families. 1st cousin marriages. Uncle/niece and Aunt/nephew marriages are common.

Haven't you ever read the Talmud? Incest is encouraged in the Talmud.

Are you aware there are whole hospitals nowadays whose sole function is to treat jewish genetic disorders? Caused by centuries of endogamic marriages?

That might be an interesting thread topic. Maybe I'll start it. Would this be the right forum for it? Or, is there a more suitable forum?


While it is evident that you have read more religious stuff then I have and you probably care more about it then I do. I really didn't and kind of don't care what you think most Christians know or think. I know I don't speak for the entire human race. So if an alien asked me a question about people I could only postulate as to what the answer is based on my personal experience which could be very accurate or it could be way off track.

I simply wanted to ask a question to start a discussion and see where it went. This one is kind of funny since it keeps getting revived by people who find it buried in the depths of mingle and decide to dust it off and breath life into it once again.

To any and all who want to participate in this thread. Understand I am not a religious person and I really don't care what the answer is. It's just a thought I had and decided to see what would happen from the topic. I'm sure I'm going to have to say this again sooner or later. hahaha

izzyphoto1977's photo
Sat 04/12/14 03:18 PM




Incest isn't illegal in all countries.

Some believe, it's the obligation of the father to deflower his daughter.


I believe it's legal in Arkansas too.


isn't 'pursuit of happinesss' one of those inalienable/unalienable rights


if two grown consenting adults are happy together, what 'right' should society/government have to tell them they cant be because of their gender OR their family history?




they produce genetically damaged offspring...


How about if a bro and sis fall in love, the bro gets his testies removed and the sis gets her ovaries removed. Now they can't have offspring. So do you still say they can't have sex? lol

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/12/14 06:35 PM




Incest isn't illegal in all countries.

Some believe, it's the obligation of the father to deflower his daughter.


I believe it's legal in Arkansas too.


isn't 'pursuit of happinesss' one of those inalienable/unalienable rights


if two grown consenting adults are happy together, what 'right' should society/government have to tell them they cant be because of their gender OR their family history?



It was you who said being gay was an illness.
So is incest an illness


I agree. But the law has declassified gayness as illness and supports it as the right of consenting adults ,,,


much like they will one day have to do with incest, in my opinion


msharmony's photo
Sat 04/12/14 06:39 PM




Incest isn't illegal in all countries.

Some believe, it's the obligation of the father to deflower his daughter.


I believe it's legal in Arkansas too.


isn't 'pursuit of happinesss' one of those inalienable/unalienable rights


if two grown consenting adults are happy together, what 'right' should society/government have to tell them they cant be because of their gender OR their family history?




they produce genetically damaged offspring...



that is not a legal justification because
1) they do NOT always produces damaged offspring , just have a much higher INCIDENCE of producing,, much like homosexuals have a much higher INCIDENCE of certain stds

unless

2) consenting adults choose to be 'responsible' everyday in the use of condoms, birth control,


much like homosexuals cant be legally restricted from pursuing happiness if they are consenting adults,, in spite of higher risks of stdss,,,,,families wont be legally restricted much longer from pursuing happiness if they are consenting adults, in spite of a higher risk of genetic defect,,,


msharmony's photo
Sat 04/12/14 06:46 PM

.. I have a question.
is incest or inbreeding.
. frowned upon in the Bible..?.. in other words does the maker of all of us.. look down upon it... I will wait for your reply..hmm...hmmm...hmm..hmmmm...hmm...hmmm.hmmm..hmm..hmmm.hmmm... okay you're busy I'll come back in a little bit....lol



as with most issues, the bible is complex on the issues, people will take what they will from it,,

there are both passages which SEEM to support and condemn the action,, yet my personal belief(what I take from the bible) is that it should be shunned,,,,,

TBRich's photo
Sat 04/12/14 08:18 PM





Incest isn't illegal in all countries.

Some believe, it's the obligation of the father to deflower his daughter.


I believe it's legal in Arkansas too.


isn't 'pursuit of happinesss' one of those inalienable/unalienable rights


if two grown consenting adults are happy together, what 'right' should society/government have to tell them they cant be because of their gender OR their family history?




they produce genetically damaged offspring...



that is not a legal justification because
1) they do NOT always produces damaged offspring , just have a much higher INCIDENCE of producing,, much like homosexuals have a much higher INCIDENCE of certain stds

unless

2) consenting adults choose to be 'responsible' everyday in the use of condoms, birth control,


much like homosexuals cant be legally restricted from pursuing happiness if they are consenting adults,, in spite of higher risks of stdss,,,,,families wont be legally restricted much longer from pursuing happiness if they are consenting adults, in spite of a higher risk of genetic defect,,,




Never took a course in Logic in College, did you?