mmmmm, no. Restore is not clean install.

I'd take it in, don't you have a buddy with a licensed older copy of Windows? lol chuck Win8. Personally I won't even deal with it. Can't control anything over WinXP.

the only positive is that i did get a much better computer.

Yes, but like you said, it's like tossing money away. It can still be made to work.

i know, i just haven't been able to solve the problem..............yet.

mmmmm, no. Restore is not clean install.

I'd take it in, don't you have a buddy with a licensed older copy of Windows? lol chuck Win8. Personally I won't even deal with it. Can't control anything over WinXP.

So what programs do you recommend for protecting PC's?

What do you guys think of the prospect of Win 10? I usually wait a year before touching a new OS. That, or the first major patch.

I'd caution against installing XP, granted it was/is one of the most stable OSs however it is no longer supported by Microsoft so any new vulnerabilities found will remain unpatched and you will be opening yourself up to hackers. Win8 isn't that bad, essentially it IS win7 with gui overlay, a little bit of new navigation must be learned but after that it is pretty stable.

I didn't recommend XP. I just said that you can't control anything over XP. Meaning anything higher than that. Secure routers that are up to date usually help. Oh yeah, that's networking,eh?

i know what a clean restore is and so does the microsoft rep...that would be why he had me load a different copy of 8 and not re-install the version i have.

kc....curious did you contact Microsoft or did they contact you first?

The reason I ask is because there is a phone scam going around where people pretending to be Microsoft call and have users give them remote access to their computers and pretend to fix them.....

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ok, so my old laptop wouldn't stop downloading and installing win 8.1 and it corrupts my system and renders the lapper useless.

after trying for countless hours to make it stop this and spending somewhere around 35 hours online with microsoft tech's, i finally gave up and purchased a new one. (microsoft refused to replace the orginal laptop)

now i have a year-&-a-half old, $600.00 paperweight.

it runs win 8 and the techs keep telling me that it is not supposed to install 8.1 on it's own, but every time i revert back to 8, it takes about 4 days for it to install 8.1 again...




Format the thing from a cold boot. Never install Win 8 on it again. Got a copy of Win 7 or anything else? Use that as the O/S.

well my problem with that is, i purchased a computer that came with a legal copy of windows, because of this 'apparently' forced upgrade, it no longer functions...but i shouldn't have to resort to an illegal o/s to be able to use it.


I didn't say illegal. You can format and put any licensed version of any O/S on it that you have.
eta: any brand that is IBM based, not Mac or Apple.

Just download the drivers for whatever brand of laptop it is after. If you can find the folder where they are now, save them before the format. Just because hardware is a brand doesn't mean you have to use the O/S that came with it.

Seems that the version it came with is the problem from what little you say. It will only happen again if you can not control the UPDATE settings for Win 8....if you put the same restore disc back in.

Therefore, use another O/S.

well i was hoping i didn't have to put more money into this, as purchasing an additional computer has already cost me more than the original expense. (sinse i don't happen to have a box of o/s's laying around. haha)


But it still needs clean install.

Then try the restore disc that you have for it, after you format, if you think you can control the Windows Updates and not let it without your permission...can you do that?...that's your new assignment. lol

but i've done that several times, so did the microsoft tech.

even found an update that was supposedly causing the issue...removed it and it still updated....been around and around this mess for weeks now.


Did you re partition AND format the hard drive before that restore disc? Because if you didn't, it is just laying it on top of the first copy and the problem is still there. There's hooks into everything, everywhere in the registries...

I'd think you could take it in to a local pc repair shop and they would do a format and clean install for you for not too much. Only takes a couple hours.

i understand that and yes we did that, three times.

the problem seems to come from microsoft forcing this upgrade. the strange thing is, they keep denying the existence of the upgrade.

the last tech i dealt with (a level 3 tech at microsoft)had my computer under his control for his entire shift, he searched, cleaned, formatted, complete system restore, ran several anti spyware/virus...ect, programs...he even sent me to a microsoft web page to download a new win 8 o/s....

nothing has worked, hence the new lapper.


mmmmm, no. Restore is not clean install.

I'd take it in, don't you have a buddy with a licensed older copy of Windows? lol chuck Win8. Personally I won't even deal with it. Can't control anything over WinXP.
Edited by tealbreeze on Wed 02/18/15 03:06 AM



Example---------- Quote upon Quote upon Quote!!!!!!

What was the purpose of this post? You do know how to stay on topic and contribute to the conversation right?

Anyways.....KC are yoy at all familiar with live CDs and/or Linux?

hey i got question... i got windows xp2003 only 75 gbram in it... but i also got windows xp2007 just the hard drive. wat would happen if i took the hard drive from the 07xp and put it in the 03xp? i know i could also run two hard drives ,,,right? appreciate answer.