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Topic: Riots and looting in Baltimore
2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Thu 04/30/15 05:45 AM
Over on page#6 RebalArcher and I were butting heads about this issue yesterday and I had some problem with the lack of 'PLANNING' from the head of the police department and went looking for his reference's:

The Police Commissioner POSTED December 27, 2013
Police Commissioner, Anthony W. Batts

Anthony W. Batts was appointed Police Commissioner of the City of Baltimore, Maryland in September of 2012 and commands the eighth largest police agency in the United States. With over three decades of law enforcement experience, Batts previously served as Chief of Police for two of California'��s largest police agencies. During his tenure, he has presided over major reductions in crime and violence. He is credited with reforming the City of Oakland'��s police agency to focus on data-driven policing. In Long Beach, California, he established an Office of Community Policing and reduced excessive force complaints, while simultaneously reducing crime, including reducing homicides by 37% from 2002 to 2007.
http://www.baltimorepolice.org/police-commissioner


Certainly the 'MAYOR' had to sign off on his 'PLAN' but WTF...this DUDE devised this cluster F'd up mess {see Conrad's time line} and just sat back and watched the CHAOS unfold!!! She's the mayor and he's the guy with the technology and knowhow and this is what he came up with; he needs his a$$ fired ASAP! NO EXCUSES - this was a nightmare and he's to blame - period! IMHO

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Thu 04/30/15 06:00 AM

Over on page#6 RebalArcher and I were butting heads about this issue yesterday and I had some problem with the lack of 'PLANNING' from the head of the police department and went looking for his reference's:

The Police Commissioner POSTED December 27, 2013
Police Commissioner, Anthony W. Batts

Anthony W. Batts was appointed Police Commissioner of the City of Baltimore, Maryland in September of 2012 and commands the eighth largest police agency in the United States. With over three decades of law enforcement experience, Batts previously served as Chief of Police for two of California'��s largest police agencies. During his tenure, he has presided over major reductions in crime and violence. He is credited with reforming the City of Oakland'��s police agency to focus on data-driven policing. In Long Beach, California, he established an Office of Community Policing and reduced excessive force complaints, while simultaneously reducing crime, including reducing homicides by 37% from 2002 to 2007.
http://www.baltimorepolice.org/police-commissioner


Certainly the 'MAYOR' had to sign off on his 'PLAN' but WTF...this DUDE devised this cluster F'd up mess {see Conrad's time line} and just sat back and watched the CHAOS unfold!!! She's the mayor and he's the guy with the technology and knowhow and this is what he came up with; he needs his a$$ fired ASAP! NO EXCUSES - this was a nightmare and he's to blame - period! IMHO

its all part of the plan. now people are protesting in other cities... soon will be martial law.

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Thu 04/30/15 06:14 AM
Ever since 'Ferguson, MO' and that sorry arsed situation and the officer got off scott-free {loads of misconduct in that grand jury process over there} the nation is aware of how our law enforcement is abusing our minorities and getting away with this crap; and the 'WORD' spreads and so does the support for protesting!

I don't want to pretend to understand the 'MOB' mentality that exudes into those humans that become so incited that they'll destroy their own grocery stores/pharmacies/local establishments but if we have allowed our college students this ability to react this way after sporting events and we don't STOP THEM --- well for someone my age --- I find it all MIND BLOWING! My college days we never would have thought to have behaved in such a horrid manner and even in my 'Viet Nam' protest march era---we weren't the ones attacking/spitting on anyone --- it was the upper classmen/super rich/upper echelon of my society; standing along the side lines calling us 'STINKING HIPPIES' that threw rotten eggs/fruit at us...when we marched and protested to STOP THE WAR!

A cousin was shot in the back at Kent State by the National Guard...and they tried to cover that up; told my aunt & uncle that they could claim her body but they wouldn't be allowed to 'VIEW' her; they sent the coffin back SEALED and my uncle had in 'UNSEALED' and found her wounds! The police report and the National Guard report all lied about her wounds --- I LOVE MY COUNTRY - BUT I FEAR MY GOVERNMENT explode


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Thu 04/30/15 07:15 AM





funny, but sadly all too true.


This is ridiculous. This does not describe cops at all....C'mon...:angry:

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Thu 04/30/15 07:20 AM

Ever since 'Ferguson, MO' and that sorry arsed situation and the officer got off scott-free {loads of misconduct in that grand jury process over there} the nation is aware of how our law enforcement is abusing our minorities and getting away with this crap; and the 'WORD' spreads and so does the support for protesting!

I don't want to pretend to understand the 'MOB' mentality that exudes into those humans that become so incited that they'll destroy their own grocery stores/pharmacies/local establishments but if we have allowed our college students this ability to react this way after sporting events and we don't STOP THEM --- well for someone my age --- I find it all MIND BLOWING! My college days we never would have thought to have behaved in such a horrid manner and even in my 'Viet Nam' protest march era---we weren't the ones attacking/spitting on anyone --- it was the upper classmen/super rich/upper echelon of my society; standing along the side lines calling us 'STINKING HIPPIES' that threw rotten eggs/fruit at us...when we marched and protested to STOP THE WAR!

A cousin was shot in the back at Kent State by the National Guard...and they tried to cover that up; told my aunt & uncle that they could claim her body but they wouldn't be allowed to 'VIEW' her; they sent the coffin back SEALED and my uncle had in 'UNSEALED' and found her wounds! The police report and the National Guard report all lied about her wounds --- I LOVE MY COUNTRY - BUT I FEAR MY GOVERNMENT explode



its not just minorities, cops are unfair with everyone. they have quotas to meet, they dont care what color you are. the issue here is not race, its psychotic police. go on youtube and watch some police brutality videos, trust me they do the same thing to white people and i have actually seen it before with my own eyes. and felt it too. lets just say i got arrested for a minor summary offense, they took me to city hall to where the cells are, punched me in the back of the head 3 times and maced me while i was handcuffed then took the cuffs of me and threw me in the cell. my eyes were burning for hours. trust me they dont care what color you are. but try telling that to a judge and see how far it gets you, unless you have multiple witnesses a judge will never believe you over a cop. and even if you have multiple witnesses theres still no guarantee. the problem here is not race, its out of control cops who have no boundaries on what theyre allowed to do.

bashajones's photo
Thu 04/30/15 07:24 AM


Ever since 'Ferguson, MO' and that sorry arsed situation and the officer got off scott-free {loads of misconduct in that grand jury process over there} the nation is aware of how our law enforcement is abusing our minorities and getting away with this crap; and the 'WORD' spreads and so does the support for protesting!

I don't want to pretend to understand the 'MOB' mentality that exudes into those humans that become so incited that they'll destroy their own grocery stores/pharmacies/local establishments but if we have allowed our college students this ability to react this way after sporting events and we don't STOP THEM --- well for someone my age --- I find it all MIND BLOWING! My college days we never would have thought to have behaved in such a horrid manner and even in my 'Viet Nam' protest march era---we weren't the ones attacking/spitting on anyone --- it was the upper classmen/super rich/upper echelon of my society; standing along the side lines calling us 'STINKING HIPPIES' that threw rotten eggs/fruit at us...when we marched and protested to STOP THE WAR!

A cousin was shot in the back at Kent State by the National Guard...and they tried to cover that up; told my aunt & uncle that they could claim her body but they wouldn't be allowed to 'VIEW' her; they sent the coffin back SEALED and my uncle had in 'UNSEALED' and found her wounds! The police report and the National Guard report all lied about her wounds --- I LOVE MY COUNTRY - BUT I FEAR MY GOVERNMENT explode



its not just minorities, cops are unfair with everyone. they have quotas to meet, they dont care what color you are. the issue here is not race, its psychotic police. go on youtube and watch some police brutality videos, trust me they do the same thing to white people and i have actually seen it before with my own eyes. and felt it too. lets just say i got arrested for a minor summary offense, they took me to city hall to where the cells are, punched me in the back of the head 3 times and maced me while i was handcuffed then took the cuffs of me and threw me in the cell. my eyes were burning for hours. trust me they dont care what color you are. but try telling that to a judge and see how far it gets you, unless you have multiple witnesses a judge will never believe you over a cop. and even if you have multiple witnesses theres still no guarantee. the problem here is not race, its out of control cops who have no boundaries on what theyre allowed to do.


This represents an extremely small percentage of cops. There are bad people in every profession. I suppose you think all Catholic priests are child molesters, too?

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Thu 04/30/15 07:24 AM
Edited by tomato86 on Thu 04/30/15 07:29 AM






funny, but sadly all too true.


This is ridiculous. This does not describe cops at all....C'mon...:angry:

maybe its ridiculous to you, seems like reality to me. thats a funny pic but trust me im sure theres some cops out there that actually think like that. like the 8 cops that beat a homeless schizophrenic man to death on camera for 15 mintues? all while hes screaming for his dad as theyre holding him down beating him to death. please lady you got too much faith in cops. cops are the reason we are having this discussion in the first place. or then theres the homeless guy who cops gunned down with an assault rifle as he turned away from them because he had a pocket knife in his hand. he was a good 20 feet away from them and they shot him multiple times with an assault rifle, then shot him with bean bags and then let a police dog attack his dead body, all on camera. so how ridiculous is it? i can go on and on about police brutality because its all on video. theres no refuting it. not every single cop in this country is bad, but most of these a holes get a gun and a badge and feel like they can do whatever they want because theres never any accountability for them.

bashajones's photo
Thu 04/30/15 07:30 AM







funny, but sadly all too true.


This is ridiculous. This does not describe cops at all....C'mon...:angry:

maybe its ridiculous to you, seems like reality to me. thats a funny pic but trust me im sure theres some cops out there that actually think like that. like the 8 cops that beat a homeless schizophrenic man to death on camera for 15 mintues? all while hes screaming for his dad as theyre holding him down beating him to death. please lady you got too much faith in cops. cops are the reason we are having this discussion in the first place. or then theres the homeless who cops gunned down with an assault rifle as he turned away from them because he had a pocket knife in his hand. they shot him multiple times with an assault rifle, then shot him with bean bags and then let a police dog attack his dead body, all on camera. so how ridiculous is it?


This is ridiculous because it represents a small percentage of cops. There are bad people in every profession. That doesn't mean they are all bad. Cops are a necessary part of society (and believe me, I've had a few run-ins with cops)...

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Thu 04/30/15 07:33 AM






funny, but sadly all too true.


This is ridiculous. This does not describe cops at all....C'mon...:angry:

i suggest you do some research. every single day in this country cops beat people, falsely arrest them, kill them, plant drugs on them. they ruin peoples lives every single day because they can. cause they got a gun and a badge and are on a power trip. my cousin was shot by a cop in his backyard, she tased him multiple times before shooting him twice in the chest. and she said there was an "altercation" and she "had to shoot" when eyewitnesses and video evidence PROVE otherwise. so dont tell me about cops.

bashajones's photo
Thu 04/30/15 07:35 AM







funny, but sadly all too true.


This is ridiculous. This does not describe cops at all....C'mon...:angry:

maybe its ridiculous to you, seems like reality to me. thats a funny pic but trust me im sure theres some cops out there that actually think like that. like the 8 cops that beat a homeless schizophrenic man to death on camera for 15 mintues? all while hes screaming for his dad as theyre holding him down beating him to death. please lady you got too much faith in cops. cops are the reason we are having this discussion in the first place. or then theres the homeless guy who cops gunned down with an assault rifle as he turned away from them because he had a pocket knife in his hand. he was a good 20 feet away from them and they shot him multiple times with an assault rifle, then shot him with bean bags and then let a police dog attack his dead body, all on camera. so how ridiculous is it? i can go on and on about police brutality because its all on video. theres no refuting it. not every single cop in this country is bad, but most of these a holes get a gun and a badge and feel like they can do whatever they want because theres never any accountability for them.


And they are certainly held accountable when they are actually guilty. The recent events involving black men being killed by cops are proving that these cops were innocent. So explain what is going on? There is NO common sense left anymore....

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Thu 04/30/15 07:37 AM







funny, but sadly all too true.


This is ridiculous. This does not describe cops at all....C'mon...:angry:

i suggest you do some research. every single day in this country cops beat people, falsely arrest them, kill them, plant drugs on them. they ruin peoples lives every single day because they can. cause they got a gun and a badge and are on a power trip. my cousin was shot by a cop in his backyard, she tased him multiple times before shooting him twice in the chest. and she said there was an "altercation" and she "had to shoot" when eyewitnesses and video evidence PROVE otherwise. so dont tell me about cops.


You are talking about a "handful" of cops! Do you realize this? Use your common sense...

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Thu 04/30/15 07:39 AM
why is that all you see everyday on the news is people getting gunned down by cops? if its such a small percentage it wouldnt be happening EVERY DAY. since the iraq and ahfganistan wars started theres been almost just as many people killed by police in this country than soldiers killed in those wars, so you really think its a small percentage? look at the statistics of how many people die at the hands of cops in this country. that is whats ridiculous because it shouldnt happen at all. out tax dollars pay these guys salary to ptotect us, and instead they just do whatever they feel like. no innocent person should ever die at the hands of a cop, cops should be held to way higher of a standard than the average citizen. but instead they run around like thugs with badges because they know they can get away with it. because who is going to investigate it? other police!

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Thu 04/30/15 07:42 AM








funny, but sadly all too true.


This is ridiculous. This does not describe cops at all....C'mon...:angry:

maybe its ridiculous to you, seems like reality to me. thats a funny pic but trust me im sure theres some cops out there that actually think like that. like the 8 cops that beat a homeless schizophrenic man to death on camera for 15 mintues? all while hes screaming for his dad as theyre holding him down beating him to death. please lady you got too much faith in cops. cops are the reason we are having this discussion in the first place. or then theres the homeless guy who cops gunned down with an assault rifle as he turned away from them because he had a pocket knife in his hand. he was a good 20 feet away from them and they shot him multiple times with an assault rifle, then shot him with bean bags and then let a police dog attack his dead body, all on camera. so how ridiculous is it? i can go on and on about police brutality because its all on video. theres no refuting it. not every single cop in this country is bad, but most of these a holes get a gun and a badge and feel like they can do whatever they want because theres never any accountability for them.


And they are certainly held accountable when they are actually guilty. The recent events involving black men being killed by cops are proving that these cops were innocent. So explain what is going on? There is NO common sense left anymore....

yep just like the cops who choked eric garner to death over selling untaxed cigarettes. they couldnt just write him a citation and be on their way... nope they hadda choke him out and end up killing him. thats why people are flipping, because theres never any justice as cops have a license to do whatever they want it seems.

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Thu 04/30/15 07:42 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 04/30/15 07:47 AM

The first rule of protection these days if you are in trouble.....don't call the police!.... unless you're into S&M and need a rest with 3 hots and a cot provided.... or you have a thing for green bologna and orange jump suits and want to quit smoking

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Thu 04/30/15 07:44 AM


The first rule of protection these days if you are in trouble.....don't call the police!.... unless you're into S&M and need a rest with 3 hots and a cot provided.... and you have a thing for green bologna and orange jump suits

exactly!

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Thu 04/30/15 07:44 AM

why is that all you see everyday on the news is people getting gunned down by cops? if its such a small percentage it wouldnt be happening EVERY DAY. since the iraq and ahfganistan wars started theres been almost just as many people killed by police in this country than soldiers killed in those wars, so you really think its a small percentage? look at the statistics of how many people die at the hands of cops in this country. that is whats ridiculous because it shouldnt happen at all. out tax dollars pay these guys salary to ptotect us, and instead they just do whatever they feel like. no innocent person should ever die at the hands of a cop, cops should be held to way higher of a standard than the average citizen. but instead they run around like thugs with badges because they know they can get away with it. because who is going to investigate it? other police!



These statistics? They don't prove your point any more than you do...


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Thu 04/30/15 07:48 AM
Edited by tomato86 on Thu 04/30/15 07:49 AM


why is that all you see everyday on the news is people getting gunned down by cops? if its such a small percentage it wouldnt be happening EVERY DAY. since the iraq and ahfganistan wars started theres been almost just as many people killed by police in this country than soldiers killed in those wars, so you really think its a small percentage? look at the statistics of how many people die at the hands of cops in this country. that is whats ridiculous because it shouldnt happen at all. out tax dollars pay these guys salary to ptotect us, and instead they just do whatever they feel like. no innocent person should ever die at the hands of a cop, cops should be held to way higher of a standard than the average citizen. but instead they run around like thugs with badges because they know they can get away with it. because who is going to investigate it? other police!



These statistics? They don't prove your point any more than you do...



hahahaha really, it seeems like you just proved my point for me. why did that many people die at the hands of cops in 1 year if its such a "small percentage". 992 deaths by police in 1 year. yes u just proved my point for me thank you for posting that. and you gotta love how the media makes it seem like only black people get killed by cops but yet theres more white people killed by cops than black people. way to go MSM.

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Thu 04/30/15 07:53 AM



why is that all you see everyday on the news is people getting gunned down by cops? if its such a small percentage it wouldnt be happening EVERY DAY. since the iraq and ahfganistan wars started theres been almost just as many people killed by police in this country than soldiers killed in those wars, so you really think its a small percentage? look at the statistics of how many people die at the hands of cops in this country. that is whats ridiculous because it shouldnt happen at all. out tax dollars pay these guys salary to ptotect us, and instead they just do whatever they feel like. no innocent person should ever die at the hands of a cop, cops should be held to way higher of a standard than the average citizen. but instead they run around like thugs with badges because they know they can get away with it. because who is going to investigate it? other police!



These statistics? They don't prove your point any more than you do...



hahahaha really, it seeems like you just proved my point for me. why did that many people die at the hands of cops in 1 year if its such a "small percentage". 992 deaths by police in 1 year. yes u just proved my point for me thank you for posting that. and you gotta love how the media makes it seem like only black people get killed by cops but yet theres more white people killed by cops than black people. way to go MSM.


LOL...Do you have any clue how many people are in the US? And how many cops?.....Use your common sense. This is an extremely small percentage.

If you support the looting and rioting that is going on, I'm sorry, but you are very misguided. Maybe you've gotten in too much trouble with the cops and have a grudge? I don't know, and I really don't care. I just know that your argument is lacking...

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Thu 04/30/15 08:01 AM
Edited by tomato86 on Thu 04/30/15 08:03 AM




why is that all you see everyday on the news is people getting gunned down by cops? if its such a small percentage it wouldnt be happening EVERY DAY. since the iraq and ahfganistan wars started theres been almost just as many people killed by police in this country than soldiers killed in those wars, so you really think its a small percentage? look at the statistics of how many people die at the hands of cops in this country. that is whats ridiculous because it shouldnt happen at all. out tax dollars pay these guys salary to ptotect us, and instead they just do whatever they feel like. no innocent person should ever die at the hands of a cop, cops should be held to way higher of a standard than the average citizen. but instead they run around like thugs with badges because they know they can get away with it. because who is going to investigate it? other police!



These statistics? They don't prove your point any more than you do...



hahahaha really, it seeems like you just proved my point for me. why did that many people die at the hands of cops in 1 year if its such a "small percentage". 992 deaths by police in 1 year. yes u just proved my point for me thank you for posting that. and you gotta love how the media makes it seem like only black people get killed by cops but yet theres more white people killed by cops than black people. way to go MSM.


LOL...Do you have any clue how many people are in the US? And how many cops?.....Use your common sense. This is an extremely small percentage.

If you support the looting and rioting that is going on, I'm sorry, but you are very misguided. Maybe you've gotten in too much trouble with the cops and have a grudge? I don't know, and I really don't care. I just know that your argument is lacking...




so who should we really be afraid of? you can defend the scum all you want but the stats dont lie.

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Thu 04/30/15 08:06 AM





why is that all you see everyday on the news is people getting gunned down by cops? if its such a small percentage it wouldnt be happening EVERY DAY. since the iraq and ahfganistan wars started theres been almost just as many people killed by police in this country than soldiers killed in those wars, so you really think its a small percentage? look at the statistics of how many people die at the hands of cops in this country. that is whats ridiculous because it shouldnt happen at all. out tax dollars pay these guys salary to ptotect us, and instead they just do whatever they feel like. no innocent person should ever die at the hands of a cop, cops should be held to way higher of a standard than the average citizen. but instead they run around like thugs with badges because they know they can get away with it. because who is going to investigate it? other police!



These statistics? They don't prove your point any more than you do...



hahahaha really, it seeems like you just proved my point for me. why did that many people die at the hands of cops in 1 year if its such a "small percentage". 992 deaths by police in 1 year. yes u just proved my point for me thank you for posting that. and you gotta love how the media makes it seem like only black people get killed by cops but yet theres more white people killed by cops than black people. way to go MSM.


LOL...Do you have any clue how many people are in the US? And how many cops?.....Use your common sense. This is an extremely small percentage.

If you support the looting and rioting that is going on, I'm sorry, but you are very misguided. Maybe you've gotten in too much trouble with the cops and have a grudge? I don't know, and I really don't care. I just know that your argument is lacking...




so who should we really be afraid of? you can defend the scum all you want but the stats dont lie.


I feel sorry for you if you have this attitude. You just better hope you don't need an officer some day. I don't know what you're gonna do? I hope you own a gun. You're gonna need one.

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