Topic: Feminism vs Sexism
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Sun 05/03/15 12:21 PM

And the same goes for women.
It's not only men who don't respect women, it's women too.



I don't need or demand respect. I respect myself, and that's enough.

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Sun 05/03/15 12:30 PM
If you respect yourself and you see yourself as a woman, then there is a conflict if you don't respect feminists. They are people who fought for your human rights, if you don't appreciate them or respect them, how can you say you respect yourself as a woman?

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Sun 05/03/15 12:39 PM
Edited by MariahsFantasy on Sun 05/03/15 12:40 PM
I think today's feminist is vastly different than what it used to mean. Anybody who says they are a feminist more than likely has no clue what it means.

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Sun 05/03/15 12:43 PM

If you respect yourself and you see yourself as a woman, then there is a conflict if you don't respect feminists. They are people who fought for your human rights, if you don't appreciate them or respect them, how can you say you respect yourself as a woman?


LOL...I don't only see myself as a woman, I am a woman....laugh I don't think you fully understand what a modern feminist is or what they stand for, Estelle.

Feminists do not fight for my human rights. My human rights are God-given. I don't need a "feminist" to fight for me...ha! Just as human life is God-given. And feminists have NO respect for human life. You still wanna tell me about respecting feminists, Estelle? You don't even know what they stand for, do you?

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Sun 05/03/15 12:51 PM

Estelle stated >>>
If you respect yourself and you see yourself as a woman, then there is a conflict if you don't respect feminists. They are people who fought for your human rights, if you don't appreciate them or respect them, how can you say you respect yourself as a woman?

Bashajones stated >>>
LOL...I don't only see myself as a woman, I am a woman....laugh I don't think you fully understand what a modern feminist is or what they stand for, Estelle.

Feminists do not fight for my human rights. My human rights are God-given. I don't need a "feminist" to fight for me...ha! Just as human life is God-given. And feminists have NO respect for human life. You still wanna tell me about respecting feminists, Estelle? You don't even know what they stand for, do you?


I'm all 'EARS'...please enlighten me? This will be interesting; what the younger generation thinks and feels about feminists and how you've arrived at that conclusion "that they have NO respect for human life"! So, fill me in...I seem to have lost something as I've aged!

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Sun 05/03/15 12:55 PM

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Sun 05/03/15 01:01 PM


Estelle stated >>>
If you respect yourself and you see yourself as a woman, then there is a conflict if you don't respect feminists. They are people who fought for your human rights, if you don't appreciate them or respect them, how can you say you respect yourself as a woman?

Bashajones stated >>>
LOL...I don't only see myself as a woman, I am a woman....laugh I don't think you fully understand what a modern feminist is or what they stand for, Estelle.

Feminists do not fight for my human rights. My human rights are God-given. I don't need a "feminist" to fight for me...ha! Just as human life is God-given. And feminists have NO respect for human life. You still wanna tell me about respecting feminists, Estelle? You don't even know what they stand for, do you?


I'm all 'EARS'...please enlighten me? This will be interesting; what the younger generation thinks and feels about feminists and how you've arrived at that conclusion "that they have NO respect for human life"! So, fill me in...I seem to have lost something as I've aged!


Alright. The modern feminist agenda has become entirely about birth control (prevention of life) and abortion (termination of life). How does that show any respect for human life?

Feminists nowadays are focused on the abortion lobby and making sure that teens can get the "morning-after" pill...Okay, well, that's fine for all the females that ALSO support that.

But, what about those of us that don't? Those of us that aren't "feminists"....

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Sun 05/03/15 01:06 PM


If you respect yourself and you see yourself as a woman, then there is a conflict if you don't respect feminists. They are people who fought for your human rights, if you don't appreciate them or respect them, how can you say you respect yourself as a woman?


LOL...I don't only see myself as a woman, I am a woman....laugh I don't think you fully understand what a modern feminist is or what they stand for, Estelle.

Feminists do not fight for my human rights. My human rights are God-given. I don't need a "feminist" to fight for me...ha! Just as human life is God-given. And feminists have NO respect for human life. You still wanna tell me about respecting feminists, Estelle? You don't even know what they stand for, do you?


I agree that human rights are a given, but they can be abused and taken from us, and they have been taken from women. Feminists are needed to balance it out.

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Sun 05/03/15 01:15 PM



If you respect yourself and you see yourself as a woman, then there is a conflict if you don't respect feminists. They are people who fought for your human rights, if you don't appreciate them or respect them, how can you say you respect yourself as a woman?


LOL...I don't only see myself as a woman, I am a woman....laugh I don't think you fully understand what a modern feminist is or what they stand for, Estelle.

Feminists do not fight for my human rights. My human rights are God-given. I don't need a "feminist" to fight for me...ha! Just as human life is God-given. And feminists have NO respect for human life. You still wanna tell me about respecting feminists, Estelle? You don't even know what they stand for, do you?


I agree that human rights are a given, but they can be abused and taken from us, and they have been taken from women. Feminists are needed to balance it out.


No, my dear. Feminists are certainly not NEEDED...lol

I, for one, don't need them at all. I can fight for my own rights, I don't need a feminist to do it for me.

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Sun 05/03/15 01:16 PM



Estelle stated >>>
If you respect yourself and you see yourself as a woman, then there is a conflict if you don't respect feminists. They are people who fought for your human rights, if you don't appreciate them or respect them, how can you say you respect yourself as a woman?

Bashajones stated >>>
LOL...I don't only see myself as a woman, I am a woman....laugh I don't think you fully understand what a modern feminist is or what they stand for, Estelle.

Feminists do not fight for my human rights. My human rights are God-given. I don't need a "feminist" to fight for me...ha! Just as human life is God-given. And feminists have NO respect for human life. You still wanna tell me about respecting feminists, Estelle? You don't even know what they stand for, do you?


I'm all 'EARS'...please enlighten me? This will be interesting; what the younger generation thinks and feels about feminists and how you've arrived at that conclusion "that they have NO respect for human life"! So, fill me in...I seem to have lost something as I've aged!


Alright. The modern feminist agenda has become entirely about birth control (prevention of life) and abortion (termination of life). How does that show any respect for human life?

Feminists nowadays are focused on the abortion lobby and making sure that teens can get the "morning-after" pill...Okay, well, that's fine for all the females that ALSO support that.

But, what about those of us that don't? Those of us that aren't "feminists"....



Respect for human life ends when woman's right to make decisions about her own body and her own life is taken away.



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Sun 05/03/15 01:19 PM




Estelle stated >>>
If you respect yourself and you see yourself as a woman, then there is a conflict if you don't respect feminists. They are people who fought for your human rights, if you don't appreciate them or respect them, how can you say you respect yourself as a woman?

Bashajones stated >>>
LOL...I don't only see myself as a woman, I am a woman....laugh I don't think you fully understand what a modern feminist is or what they stand for, Estelle.

Feminists do not fight for my human rights. My human rights are God-given. I don't need a "feminist" to fight for me...ha! Just as human life is God-given. And feminists have NO respect for human life. You still wanna tell me about respecting feminists, Estelle? You don't even know what they stand for, do you?


I'm all 'EARS'...please enlighten me? This will be interesting; what the younger generation thinks and feels about feminists and how you've arrived at that conclusion "that they have NO respect for human life"! So, fill me in...I seem to have lost something as I've aged!


Alright. The modern feminist agenda has become entirely about birth control (prevention of life) and abortion (termination of life). How does that show any respect for human life?

Feminists nowadays are focused on the abortion lobby and making sure that teens can get the "morning-after" pill...Okay, well, that's fine for all the females that ALSO support that.

But, what about those of us that don't? Those of us that aren't "feminists"....



Respect for human life ends when woman's right to make decisions about her own body and her own life is taken away.





That is a feminist point of view and EXACTLY why I don't respect or need feminism.

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Sun 05/03/15 01:22 PM
Edited by Pansytilly on Sun 05/03/15 01:23 PM
Hmmm....Im with basha on this one...

You don't need to be a feminist to recognize and respect common human dignity, rights, morals and ethics.

"Feminism" seem to be a term loosely used and abused nowadays to mean any agenda that any group of women would want to advance for their own purposes...

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Sun 05/03/15 01:25 PM

Hmmm....Im with basha on this one...

You don't need to be a feminist to recognize and respect common human dignity, rights, morals and ethics.

"Feminism" seem to be a term loosely used and abused nowadays to mean any agenda that any group of women would want to advance for their own purposes...


:thumbsup:

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Sun 05/03/15 01:31 PM


Hmmm....Im with basha on this one...

You don't need to be a feminist to recognize and respect common human dignity, rights, morals and ethics.

"Feminism" seem to be a term loosely used and abused nowadays to mean any agenda that any group of women would want to advance for their own purposes...


:thumbsup:


drinker <--- still learning something from you :tongue:

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Sun 05/03/15 01:39 PM
I need feminism because after I told someone that I didn't find his sexist joke funny, he told me I'd make a good lesbian.

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Sun 05/03/15 01:41 PM





Estelle stated >>>
If you respect yourself and you see yourself as a woman, then there is a conflict if you don't respect feminists. They are people who fought for your human rights, if you don't appreciate them or respect them, how can you say you respect yourself as a woman?

Bashajones stated >>>
LOL...I don't only see myself as a woman, I am a woman....laugh I don't think you fully understand what a modern feminist is or what they stand for, Estelle.

Feminists do not fight for my human rights. My human rights are God-given. I don't need a "feminist" to fight for me...ha! Just as human life is God-given. And feminists have NO respect for human life. You still wanna tell me about respecting feminists, Estelle? You don't even know what they stand for, do you?


I'm all 'EARS'...please enlighten me? This will be interesting; what the younger generation thinks and feels about feminists and how you've arrived at that conclusion "that they have NO respect for human life"! So, fill me in...I seem to have lost something as I've aged!


Alright. The modern feminist agenda has become entirely about birth control (prevention of life) and abortion (termination of life). How does that show any respect for human life?

Feminists nowadays are focused on the abortion lobby and making sure that teens can get the "morning-after" pill...Okay, well, that's fine for all the females that ALSO support that.

But, what about those of us that don't? Those of us that aren't "feminists"....



Respect for human life ends when woman's right to make decisions about her own body and her own life is taken away.





That is a feminist point of view and EXACTLY why I don't respect or need feminism.


It's your right to not want to make your own decisions about your own body and your own life, but it's my right to want to make those decisions for myself. So, you really don't need to disrespect feminism then do you? They are not threatening your right to disregard your own human rights.

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Sun 05/03/15 01:45 PM

I need feminism because after I told someone that I didn't find his sexist joke funny, he told me I'd make a good lesbian.



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Sun 05/03/15 01:48 PM
Edited by WonderWoman48 on Sun 05/03/15 01:51 PM
Estelle Estelle Estelle!
Please listen!
Life is too short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, call me... I'll laugh at you...I'm sure you have my number.

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Sun 05/03/15 01:52 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Sun 05/03/15 01:56 PM

Estelle stated >>>
If you respect yourself and you see yourself as a woman, then there is a conflict if you don't respect feminists. They are people who fought for your human rights, if you don't appreciate them or respect them, how can you say you respect yourself as a woman?

Bashajones stated >>>
LOL...I don't only see myself as a woman, I am a woman....laugh I don't think you fully understand what a modern feminist is or what they stand for, Estelle.

Feminists do not fight for my human rights. My human rights are God-given. I don't need a "feminist" to fight for me...ha! Just as human life is God-given. And feminists have NO respect for human life. You still wanna tell me about respecting feminists, Estelle? You don't even know what they stand for, do you?


I'm all 'EARS'...please enlighten me? This will be interesting; what the younger generation thinks and feels about feminists and how you've arrived at that conclusion "that they have NO respect for human life"! So, fill me in...I seem to have lost something as I've aged!
Bashajones stated >>>
Alright. The modern feminist agenda has become entirely about birth control (prevention of life) and abortion (termination of life). How does that show any respect for human life?

Feminists nowadays are focused on the abortion lobby and making sure that teens can get the "morning-after" pill...Okay, well, that's fine for all the females that ALSO support that.

But, what about those of us that don't? Those of us that aren't "feminists"....


Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, cultural, personal, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment.


Granted, Basha...there are a lot of groups that have gotten behind the 'RIGHT TO LIFE/PRO-CHOICE' that have used such terms as Liberated Woman/Groups from WOW etc., etc., but for the basic Feminism/Feminist it's the same top 5 social structure issues that we struggled with back in the mid 60's

1. The Division of Domestic Labor
2. The Media
3. The Glass Ceiling
4. Social Inequality
5. Violence Against Women

Progress has been made but it's still a huge up hill battle and it slow going! And when I read things like what happened in India where those women took it upon themselves to find the rapist and beat him senseless because their own government wasn't respecting their fear and doing anything about this horror; I CHEERED and had hope in my heart that the courage to stand up to abuse is spreading and we are making inroads and we are helping make social changes!

You belong to this 'SISTERHOOD' rather you like it or not; and should you ever have a daughter and she asks your about the Feminist Movement, well I'd hope you'd see the entire panoramic work that we've been doing - not just the Pro-Choice issue!

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Sun 05/03/15 01:57 PM






Estelle stated >>>
If you respect yourself and you see yourself as a woman, then there is a conflict if you don't respect feminists. They are people who fought for your human rights, if you don't appreciate them or respect them, how can you say you respect yourself as a woman?

Bashajones stated >>>
LOL...I don't only see myself as a woman, I am a woman....laugh I don't think you fully understand what a modern feminist is or what they stand for, Estelle.

Feminists do not fight for my human rights. My human rights are God-given. I don't need a "feminist" to fight for me...ha! Just as human life is God-given. And feminists have NO respect for human life. You still wanna tell me about respecting feminists, Estelle? You don't even know what they stand for, do you?


I'm all 'EARS'...please enlighten me? This will be interesting; what the younger generation thinks and feels about feminists and how you've arrived at that conclusion "that they have NO respect for human life"! So, fill me in...I seem to have lost something as I've aged!


Alright. The modern feminist agenda has become entirely about birth control (prevention of life) and abortion (termination of life). How does that show any respect for human life?

Feminists nowadays are focused on the abortion lobby and making sure that teens can get the "morning-after" pill...Okay, well, that's fine for all the females that ALSO support that.

But, what about those of us that don't? Those of us that aren't "feminists"....



Respect for human life ends when woman's right to make decisions about her own body and her own life is taken away.





That is a feminist point of view and EXACTLY why I don't respect or need feminism.


It's your right to not want to make your own decisions about your own body and your own life, but it's my right to want to make those decisions for myself. So, you really don't need to disrespect feminism then do you? They are not threatening your right to disregard your own human rights.


OMG...What makes you think I don't make my own decisions about my body and my own life? Because I'm not a feminist? Where do you get your information? I don't need to be a feminist to make my own choices. Why don't you try making your own choices and thinking for yourself?

And, I repeat...If feminism continues to disregard human life, I will neither support nor respect it. I am 100% against abortion, and that is my choice to be so. I do not need you or any feminists approval.

"They are not threatening your right to disregard your own human rights"? I don't even know what the hell that means?...what