In the news muslims have been constantly assailed for violence.., yet it is a very small portion of those who claim ...yes claim to be muslim who do violence, killing scores...including muslims...what is your opinion?

What's yours?

IF, it is such a small portion, THEN it would behoove the Muslim community majority to police their own people and root out all those that are supporting them. Without someone paying for their food, their lodging their transportation they can't pose much of a threat.......like a barking dog.

Considering the fact that Muhammad used an army and a threat of physical force to coerce people into converting to Islam, I'd say that the violent Muslims are more like Muhammad than the peaceful Muslims are willing to admit.

your right.. lets just call them "some people who are doing this for some reason".

todays news flash!!: some people who are doing this for some reason attacked and killed some other people today... reason unknown.. stay tune!!

that may be PC.. but it is not the truth

they Are Muslim! They are seeking out perdomantly non Muslims, and murdering them in horrific ways.. all over the globe. And thy are doing it in the name of their religion.... fact

And the non Muslim community is supposed to be PC?.... not happening.

I generally refer to fanatics, as crazy f'ing arseholes.
Doesn't matter what religion they are.

Just remember those 72 virgins.

What is this "labeling" you speak of?

The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris.

That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny.

religious labels are tricky, religious doctrines are as well, particularly those which are extremely old,, for they hold a history/timeline of both cultural context AND spiritual and people can nitpick instead of seeking context and entirety

I believe individuals of all religions are diverse, and that their core can be reinforced by their interpretation of religious teachings,

but the mind naturally categorizes and puts things in boxes to make them easier to assess and recall, and it takes a desire to UNLEARN the tendency to stop at that INITIAL natural response and view things instead in entirety and context


in my opinion, 'muslim' tells me no more about a person except that they have values based upon their INTERPRETATION of islam and that interpretation will be driven by the type of person they are

so hateful and violent people exist in every religion, they just do, and every religion has plenty of history for them to find the parts that out of context support their hatred and violence

because we are a western political culture, the very association of religion with our values or politics is 'unconstitutional' and unamerican,

but in middle eastern religious cultures, the values and politics are directly tied to religion

so where we have 'patriotic' people who do horrible things in the name of protecting our constition/nation

there is an equivalent of 'religious' people who do horrible things in the name of protecting their religion(or their interpretation of it)

short answer, no , I dont believe muslims are any more violent than anyone else

I just believe they are muslims FIRST and so in all they do and live , it is based upon what they have interpreted in their religion

whereas , american christians, for example, are americans first,, so all they do and live is based upon what they have interpreted as 'american' and 'constitutional'


the labeling is different, but the natures (violent, hateful, dangerous, peaceful, loving, kind) are not,,


I bet middle eastern and religious nations here plenty about what awful things westerners have done, and associate it simply with the fact that we are westerners,,,,,its a hard habit to break,, that type of boxed in mentality

Yeah, EXACTLY.

It appears that (roughly) 70% of Muslims are giving 30% of them a bad name!!

so, three 'facts' are alleged

1. word gout out that people were attacked
2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering
3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris



questions

1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering?

2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word?

3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium?

4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence?

you should ask the muslims that were cheering... for me, i would rather have my doubts about muslims and hope i'm wrong rather than have no doubts and be wrong...

I could say something but this lady says it better then I'd ever be able to....

http://youtu.be/Ry3NzkAOo3s

smart woman...

This guy ( Mafia) said it as best as I could

These people are like walking machines. ISIS brainwashes them through the Internet," Giovanni Gambino told Mic of the terrorist threat. "You need to beat the **** out of them to the point where they stop coming back to life."

Mafia never did care much about PC... Lol..

so if I see a group of white folks beating up a black man at a Trump event, should I assume that is the norm amongst white folks, or maybe a smaller (radical) portion of the group? is that specific group representative of billions?

Well that just doesn't make any sense...what the hell would you be doing at a Trump event?

What makes sense to me, is to recognize and deal with the problems of RIGHT NOW. So the fact that there is horrific bloodshed associated with a religion deep in the past, isn't the right reason to condemn everyone associated with it today. Shame on those who want to blame the Christians of today, for the horrifying acts of their ancestors.

Today, we do have the problem that there are currently a lot more Muslims being manipulated into doing horrible things in the name of their religion, than there are Christians and others. However, just as it was Christian terrorists who bombed medical clinics and murdered doctors for their beliefs not long ago, but we refused to condemn ALL Christians for their actions, so too it makes no sense to condemn all of Islam for the acts of their minority of nuts.

We DO need to take actions, but they need to be specific.

For example, I would like to see more REASONABLE leaders, call for direct statements from those who are leaders of religions who have committed these acts. I wanted the Pope and other Christian leaders to come out and sharply condemn anyone who tried to use Christianity as a cover story for acts of violence against others, but that didn't happen. I wanted Republican leaders to speak out directly against the lies being told by their followers and pundits, but only McCain did so. I wanted Democrats to renounce those amongst them, who failed to uphold THEIR standards to speak out as well, but I heard nothing.

For certain, attacking the ENTIRE COMMUNITY when part of it misbehaves, is a failed concept. Historically, it has inevitably resulted in causing the rest of said community to join forces with the miscreants amongst them.