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Topic: Militants continue occupation in Oregon
msharmony's photo
Sun 01/03/16 11:32 AM
( I imagine the distinction between militant and terrorist must have to do with civilian lives taken)


Law enforcement agencies are remaining mum about plans to end militiamen's occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters.

A splinter group of militia in town to support a local ranching family took over the federal office Saturday afternoon in a development that stunned the community and visiting militia.

Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward said in a statement late Saturday that "a collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution."

Here's a summary of key elements of this unfolding story:
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/militia_continue_occupation_of.html

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 01/03/16 11:34 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 01/03/16 11:38 AM
GOOD!

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/

Full Story on What’s Going on In Oregon – Militia Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to Hammond Family Persecution…
Posted on January 3, 2016 by sundance
Grab a coffee, because this is soup-to-nuts.
Many people will awaken today to the news of approximately 100 to 150 armed militia taking control of a closed Wildlife Park Headquarters, and not know the full back-story – so here it is:


The short summary is: in an effort to draw attention to a ridiculous arrest of a father and son pair of Oregon Ranchers (“Dwight Lincoln Hammond, Jr., 73, and his son, Steven Dwight Hammond, 46,) who are scheduled to begin five year prison sentences (turning themselves in tomorrow January 4th 2016), three brothers from the Cliven Bundy family and approximately 100/150 (and growing) heavily armed militia (former U.S. service members) have taken control of Malheur Wildlife Refuge Headquarters in the wildlife reserve. They are prepared to stay there indefinitely.

Here’s the long version: including history, details, links video(s) and explanations:.............

no photo
Sun 01/03/16 11:52 AM
( I imagine the distinction between militant and terrorist must have to do with civilian lives taken)

Or amount of actual "terror" produced?

In this situation big difference between "people are killing others at random, any time, any place, bombs, guns, beheadings! They're threatening nuclear bombs, they're threatening deadly gas attacks! They're taken a bunch of hostages and are threatening to kill them!" and "some guys are sitting in the lodge and they're saying they're not leaving or letting anyone in. Kinda like my 9 year old when he has a tantrum, goes into the bathroom, and locks the door so he doesn't get grounded."


msharmony's photo
Sun 01/03/16 11:54 AM
does your daughter go in her room fully armed and declare she is willing to kill or be killed?

lilott's photo
Sun 01/03/16 12:10 PM

( I imagine the distinction between militant and terrorist must have to do with civilian lives taken)


Law enforcement agencies are remaining mum about plans to end militiamen's occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters.

A splinter group of militia in town to support a local ranching family took over the federal office Saturday afternoon in a development that stunned the community and visiting militia.

Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward said in a statement late Saturday that "a collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution."

Here's a summary of key elements of this unfolding story:
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/militia_continue_occupation_of.html

lilott's photo
Sun 01/03/16 12:14 PM
Good for them. It's about time someone fights back against a corrupt government.

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/03/16 12:15 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 01/03/16 12:17 PM
Viva La ORegon militants and BLM!!!

fight back against corruption,,,,


but, isn't that what MOST extremists believe they are doing?

should BLM take up arms in their fight too? or might we reasonably believe there would be a lot of dead BLM folks if that ever happened?...lol

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/03/16 12:24 PM
oh, thugs don't need to try and take a cops gun do they? just HAVING a weapon that could be deemed a 'threat' is enough to decide whether their life is worth taking or saving

especially if they verbalized during the confrontation that they would either 'kill or be killed'

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/03/16 12:33 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 01/03/16 12:34 PM
oh, I know my audience, those who cheer an ARMED occupation but sneer at peaceful protests around the country as 'havoc',,,lol

but it provided ME with a good laugh,,lol

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/03/16 12:47 PM
laugh laugh

yeah, I provide laughs sometimes too,,

misuse of a word, funnier because of how uncommon it is for me to do it

Thanks for the correction,:wink:

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/03/16 12:58 PM
nah

Im aware of what level of intelligence I possess or don't,, you wont catch me in a debate for instance about chemical compositions or geography,,lol

but on this, yeah, pretty basic concept that doesn't require the highest iq to merely discuss,,


the thread was

originally about an armed occupation by people who wont allow anyone in or out and have declared a willingness to kill or be killed


the first response was of support which caused a tangent response addressing the differing semantics and reactions to peoples behaviors

these men are 'militants' being supported in their armed occupation because they are 'fighting corruption'

while others, such as BLM are berated as 'hate groups' and causing 'havoc' in response to their UNARMED protests around the country,,






msharmony's photo
Sun 01/03/16 01:17 PM
ya know?

logic usually is a bit more of a hit amongst the logical,,,



Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 01/03/16 01:54 PM
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

motowndowntown's photo
Sun 01/03/16 04:21 PM
If this "militant militia" were in Chicago, they'd all be dead by now.

We need to build a wall to keep "militant militias" out of this country.

no photo
Sun 01/03/16 05:28 PM

If this "militant militia" were in Chicago, they'd all be dead by now.

We need to build a wall to keep "militant militias" out of this country.


I know, Fairycon would bring out his 10 million man army.laugh

Rock's photo
Sun 01/03/16 06:01 PM



oh, thugs don't need to try and take a cops gun do they? just HAVING a weapon that could be deemed a 'threat' is enough to decide whether their life is worth taking or saving

especially if they verbalized during the confrontation that they would either 'kill or be killed'



lol

so you believe a 'thug' could garnish a weapon, let alone a group of 'thugs' garnish WEAPONS, declaring they will kill or be killed to get what they want

and they would come out alive?


laugh laugh laugh laugh


Brandish*
Brandishing*

However, I do believe, that if it were a group of abundantly pigmented folks, you'd be referring to them as "political protesters".

So... In keeping the faith...
I believe these political protesters may have chosen a better path, than the one they're on.

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/03/16 08:31 PM


If this "militant militia" were in Chicago, they'd all be dead by now.

We need to build a wall to keep "militant militias" out of this country.


I know, Fairycon would bring out his 10 million man army.laugh


only if he wasn't around to see what happened to the armed black panthers of yesteryear, who were only protecting their OWN neighborhoods, with their 'right to bear arms',,

no photo
Sun 01/03/16 08:36 PM



If this "militant militia" were in Chicago, they'd all be dead by now.

We need to build a wall to keep "militant militias" out of this country.


I know, Fairycon would bring out his 10 million man army.laugh


only if he wasn't around to see what happened to the armed black panthers of yesteryear, who were only protecting their OWN neighborhoods, with their 'right to bear arms',,


Protecting their turf and dealing drugs.laugh

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/03/16 08:41 PM
so they were killed in their sleep over weed?...laugh laugh laugh

why didn't they just offer them 'rehab'?


laugh

tulip2633's photo
Sun 01/03/16 08:51 PM

laugh laugh

yeah, I provide laughs sometimes too,,

misuse of a word, funnier because of how uncommon it is for me to do it

Thanks for the correction,:wink:


Your brain was probably thinking of 'brandish'.

Maybe?

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