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A man on your arm, will keep the wolf's away  Or... we could push the man in front of us to be eaten by the wolf so we women can run away unharmed!    I am not a meal for a wolf.
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A man on your arm, will keep the wolf's away Or... we could push the man in front of us to be eaten by the wolf so we women can run away unharmed! I am not a meal for a wolf. Nooooooo. You are a savior pf women. You lay down your life for us 
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A man on your arm, will keep the wolf's away Or... we could push the man in front of us to be eaten by the wolf so we women can run away unharmed! I am not a meal for a wolf. Nooooooo. You are a savior pf women. You lay down your life for us Peggy, I would if you were with me, but first you have to be with me.
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A man on your arm, will keep the wolf's away Or... we could push the man in front of us to be eaten by the wolf so we women can run away unharmed! I am not a meal for a wolf. Nooooooo. You are a savior pf women. You lay down your life for us Peggy, I would if you were with me, but first you have to be with me. Phone people...??? Wolf is a metaphor. In this case it represents "guys" As in other guys. haha!  
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Phone people...??? Wolf is a metaphor. In this case it represents "guys" As in other guys. haha! I thought that the wolf referred to was . . . 
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Well being friends with someone of the opposite sex is a totally different animal to being their mate. The expectations and stakes are higher in a relationship, thereby interferring with the level of tolerance and forgiveness that we typically have for our friends. This is only compounded by the dymamic of competition between the genders in the home ,which evolving gender roles has sparked in us.I think it was charles 1962 who suggested in another thread that we should think of our mates as our friends and I think that might help us along nicely Wow I don't think I could disagree with you more. IMHO if someone is a true mate then friendship, actually liking you, the person would be core and vice versa, and the other parts sex, kids, sharing life in general would just be icing on the cake. I care about my friends a lot but not even remotely as much as I do a mate and if anything that motivates me to amp up my forgiveness and tolerance not make it harder to give. If people are competing with mates in gender roles, old or new, with in the home then the relationship has about the same maturity that a little brother would have when you are eleven and is basically Dead on Arrival as far as a relationship that will last. Wow! My response to this is late. I was looking at the relationship with a mate vs that with a friend from the angle of investment, expectation and disappointment. For example, if both my daughter and and my niece got pregnant before they completed their education , I personally would be way more devastated and disappointed in my daughter than in my niece even if I am super close to my niece and see her as a daughter. The reason why I would be more devastated in my daughter is because my level of investment and expectation in her is much higher and I see herself somewhat as a reflection of me. I could handle my niece's teen pregnancy with a clearer head but with my daughter , I would be freaking out. That is what I meant about men as friends vs men as a mate . We love them both deeply but the level of investment and expectation is so much higher in a mate than a friend. Arguments that you might approach in a more neutral tone with your friend, you may find yourself screaming at your mate, but that's because offenses hurt that much more with your mate than with your friend because again the expectations are higher. It is not strange to think that this could heavily impact on one's level of patience /tolerance with THEIR mate even if that hasnt been your personal experience. As for your comment about the death of a relationship being expected if men are women are immature enough to compete against each other in terms of gender roles.... Um... yeah... Ofcourse it is immature but it is not an uncommon behaviour in modern relationships. And my point was that if we could see our mate as our friend/ally instead of a competitor , it would create a more harmonious dynamic in the home |
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Well being friends with someone of the opposite sex is a totally different animal to being their mate. The expectations and stakes are higher in a relationship, thereby interferring with the level of tolerance and forgiveness that we typically have for our friends. This is only compounded by the dymamic of competition between the genders in the home ,which evolving gender roles has sparked in us.I think it was charles 1962 who suggested in another thread that we should think of our mates as our friends and I think that might help us along nicely Wow I don't think I could disagree with you more. IMHO if someone is a true mate then friendship, actually liking you, the person would be core and vice versa, and the other parts sex, kids, sharing life in general would just be icing on the cake. I care about my friends a lot but not even remotely as much as I do a mate and if anything that motivates me to amp up my forgiveness and tolerance not make it harder to give. If people are competing with mates in gender roles, old or new, with in the home then the relationship has about the same maturity that a little brother would have when you are eleven and is basically Dead on Arrival as far as a relationship that will last. Wow! My response to this is late. I was looking at the relationship with a mate vs that with a friend from the angle of investment, expectation and disappointment. For example, if both my daughter and and my niece got pregnant before they completed their education , I personally would be way more devastated and disappointed in my daughter than in my niece even if I am super close to my niece and see her as a daughter. The reason why I would be more devastated in my daughter is because my level of investment and expectation in her is much higher and I see herself somewhat as a reflection of me. I could handle my niece's teen pregnancy with a clearer head but with my daughter , I would be freaking out. That is what I meant about men as friends vs men as a mate . We love them both deeply but the level of investment and expectation is so much higher in a mate than a friend. Arguments that you might approach in a more neutral tone with your friend, you may find yourself screaming at your mate, but that's because offenses hurt that much more with your mate than with your friend because again the expectations are higher. It is not strange to think that this could heavily impact on one's level of patience /tolerance with THEIR mate even if that hasnt been your personal experience. As for your comment about the death of a relationship being expected if men are women are immature enough to compete against each other in terms of gender roles.... Um... yeah... Ofcourse it is immature but it is not an uncommon behaviour in modern relationships. And my point was that if we could see our mate as our friend/ally instead of a competitor , it would create a more harmonious dynamic in the home peggy122 I fear your daughter will not finish school till well over 35 with all those letters after her name like: Daniela Simidchieva  ________________________________________________________________________ As peggy122 said: A burning candle represents our embodiment. Together we light a third candle, joining our flames together. Putting out our personal candles. Holding the one candle together, we walk into the darkness. aawwwww
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Well being friends with someone of the opposite sex is a totally different animal to being their mate. The expectations and stakes are higher in a relationship, thereby interferring with the level of tolerance and forgiveness that we typically have for our friends. This is only compounded by the dymamic of competition between the genders in the home ,which evolving gender roles has sparked in us.I think it was charles 1962 who suggested in another thread that we should think of our mates as our friends and I think that might help us along nicely Wow I don't think I could disagree with you more. IMHO if someone is a true mate then friendship, actually liking you, the person would be core and vice versa, and the other parts sex, kids, sharing life in general would just be icing on the cake. I care about my friends a lot but not even remotely as much as I do a mate and if anything that motivates me to amp up my forgiveness and tolerance not make it harder to give. If people are competing with mates in gender roles, old or new, with in the home then the relationship has about the same maturity that a little brother would have when you are eleven and is basically Dead on Arrival as far as a relationship that will last. Wow! My response to this is late. I was looking at the relationship with a mate vs that with a friend from the angle of investment, expectation and disappointment. For example, if both my daughter and and my niece got pregnant before they completed their education , I personally would be way more devastated and disappointed in my daughter than in my niece even if I am super close to my niece and see her as a daughter. The reason why I would be more devastated in my daughter is because my level of investment and expectation in her is much higher and I see herself somewhat as a reflection of me. I could handle my niece's teen pregnancy with a clearer head but with my daughter , I would be freaking out. That is what I meant about men as friends vs men as a mate . We love them both deeply but the level of investment and expectation is so much higher in a mate than a friend. Arguments that you might approach in a more neutral tone with your friend, you may find yourself screaming at your mate, but that's because offenses hurt that much more with your mate than with your friend because again the expectations are higher. It is not strange to think that this could heavily impact on one's level of patience /tolerance with THEIR mate even if that hasnt been your personal experience. As for your comment about the death of a relationship being expected if men are women are immature enough to compete against each other in terms of gender roles.... Um... yeah... Ofcourse it is immature but it is not an uncommon behaviour in modern relationships. And my point was that if we could see our mate as our friend/ally instead of a competitor , it would create a more harmonious dynamic in the home peggy122 I fear your daughter will not finish school till well over 35 with all those letters after her name like: Daniela Simidchieva ________________________________________________________________________ As peggy122 said: A burning candle represents our embodiment. Together we light a third candle, joining our flames together. Putting out our personal candles. Holding the one candle together, we walk into the darkness. aawwwww .... Or better yet, maybe both parties should keep their individual candles lit and keep their individual identoties in tact and also.light a candle together representing joint goals etc. . Increased illumination to guide our paths might not be a bad thing 
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ok, we need men to make us laugh is that ok?  Women make us laugh and you already have your device to hang your curtains. I dont think you have any use for a man B  that is why i am alone Peggy. i wish they had never made that curtain hanging device, then i would have a boyfriend maybe lol |
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ok, we need men to make us laugh is that ok? Women make us laugh and you already have your device to hang your curtains. I dont think you have any use for a man B that is why i am alone Peggy. i wish they had never made that curtain hanging device, then i would have a boyfriend maybe lol Hahaha! Curtain hanging devices are the number one reason for women being single ! 
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Well being friends with someone of the opposite sex is a totally different animal to being their mate. The expectations and stakes are higher in a relationship, thereby interferring with the level of tolerance and forgiveness that we typically have for our friends. This is only compounded by the dymamic of competition between the genders in the home ,which evolving gender roles has sparked in us.I think it was charles 1962 who suggested in another thread that we should think of our mates as our friends and I think that might help us along nicely Wow I don't think I could disagree with you more. IMHO if someone is a true mate then friendship, actually liking you, the person would be core and vice versa, and the other parts sex, kids, sharing life in general would just be icing on the cake. I care about my friends a lot but not even remotely as much as I do a mate and if anything that motivates me to amp up my forgiveness and tolerance not make it harder to give. If people are competing with mates in gender roles, old or new, with in the home then the relationship has about the same maturity that a little brother would have when you are eleven and is basically Dead on Arrival as far as a relationship that will last. Wow! My response to this is late. I was looking at the relationship with a mate vs that with a friend from the angle of investment, expectation and disappointment. For example, if both my daughter and and my niece got pregnant before they completed their education , I personally would be way more devastated and disappointed in my daughter than in my niece even if I am super close to my niece and see her as a daughter. The reason why I would be more devastated in my daughter is because my level of investment and expectation in her is much higher and I see herself somewhat as a reflection of me. I could handle my niece's teen pregnancy with a clearer head but with my daughter , I would be freaking out. That is what I meant about men as friends vs men as a mate . We love them both deeply but the level of investment and expectation is so much higher in a mate than a friend. Arguments that you might approach in a more neutral tone with your friend, you may find yourself screaming at your mate, but that's because offenses hurt that much more with your mate than with your friend because again the expectations are higher. It is not strange to think that this could heavily impact on one's level of patience /tolerance with THEIR mate even if that hasnt been your personal experience. As for your comment about the death of a relationship being expected if men are women are immature enough to compete against each other in terms of gender roles.... Um... yeah... Ofcourse it is immature but it is not an uncommon behaviour in modern relationships. And my point was that if we could see our mate as our friend/ally instead of a competitor , it would create a more harmonious dynamic in the home peggy122 I fear your daughter will not finish school till well over 35 with all those letters after her name like: Daniela Simidchieva ________________________________________________________________________ As peggy122 said: A burning candle represents our embodiment. Together we light a third candle, joining our flames together. Putting out our personal candles. Holding the one candle together, we walk into the darkness. aawwwww .... Or better yet, maybe both parties should keep their individual candles lit and keep their individual identoties in tact and also.light a candle together representing joint goals etc. . Increased illumination to guide our paths might not be a bad thing  One candle makes you hold tighter together and focus together
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ok, we need men to make us laugh is that ok? Women make us laugh and you already have your device to hang your curtains. I dont think you have any use for a man B that is why i am alone Peggy. i wish they had never made that curtain hanging device, then i would have a boyfriend maybe lol You could buy 5 helium balloons, of different colours. Attach a note "Hi! guy that is around 30. Dinner with a nice women 536 456-6545"  *Later you would match the guy with the colour of the balloon. ** Trust the Norse god, Loki |
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Isnt being loved and giving love what we all want
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Edited by
peggy122
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Tue 01/26/16 06:33 PM
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Isnt being loved and giving love what we all want Yes. At the core, love is all everyone wants and needs, but this thread just addresses how evolving gender roles have undermined the value we attach to a male's contribution to the home. In this thread the men's contributions are being itemised and celebrated |
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Rolls change per situation. Thats like asking what is a cookie for. You can say basics.... for eating. Or you can dive deeper. For fun... deeper.... for Love..... now we are on a topic we all enjoy. Love. Is there only one kind of love? Do you love your mom as you do your best friend? Do you love your dad as you love your boyfriend? What are relationships for? Why do we even communicate? Are words the only way to communicate? What is yin and yang? Do we need balance? Why are you here on earth? The answer is Love. Um .. I think that is a really great answer for a different conversation thread I have decided to adjust my response to this comment since the issue of love has been raised more than once in this thread Yes. At the core, love is all everyone wants and needs, but this thread just addresses how evolving gender roles have undermined the value we attach to a male's contribution to the home. In this thread the men's contributions are being itemised and celebrated  |
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The answer is in the reversal and this is why the question is ridiculous.
1. What INVALUABLE qualities / services APART FROM SEX and the procreation process, do women have to offer in a relationship /home? 2. In the absence of being the main financial provider, what service do you bring as a woman to your home/relationship that makes you feel MOST proud or validated as a woman? |
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As peggy122 said: A burning candle represents our embodiment. Together we light a third candle, joining our flames together. Putting out our personal candles. Holding the one candle together, we walk into the darkness. aawwwww .... Or better yet, maybe both parties should keep their individual candles lit and keep their individual identoties in tact and also.light a candle together representing joint goals etc. . Increased illumination to guide our paths might not be a bad thing One candle makes you hold tighter together and focus together No probs Doug, I respect your choice but in my future relationship , I want to ensure that we join forces while still preserving some elements of our individual identities. Thats ok if you dont agree. We all have to choose what feels right for us
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The answer is in the reversal and this is why the question is ridiculous. 1. What INVALUABLE qualities / services APART FROM SEX and the procreation process, do women have to offer in a relationship /home? 2. In the absence of being the main financial provider, what service do you bring as a woman to your home/relationship that makes you feel MOST proud or validated as a woman? I am sorry. I don't understand what you are saying . Please feel free to explain if you have the time
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well, speaking for myself..I got my own stuff.. the man brings the rubs and hugs.
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