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I look at Rupert Murdoch in awe, in his 80's and winning supermodel Jerry Hall's hand in marriage. She is very wealthy in her own right so I don't believe money was the attraction. However, I do think money attracts money meaning the very rich usually marry the very rich. I am sure she could have found a younger more attractive guy had she wanted to, it just shows there is hope for us all yet. 
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Edited by
peggy122
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Mon 03/07/16 07:25 AM
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I look at Rupert Murdoch in awe, in his 80's and winning supermodel Jerry Hall's hand in marriage. She is very wealthy in her own right so I don't believe money was the attraction. However, I do think money attracts money meaning the very rich usually marry the very rich. I am sure she could have found a younger more attractive guy had she wanted to, it just shows there is hope for us all yet. Okay. So I have a confession. Don't tell anyone this Duttoneer . I had a crush on Sean Connery up until age 70. AND... I had a crush on Hugh Hefner up until his late 60's .I kid you not. Not only did I find him physically sexy, but his personality even to this day is sooooooo charming and engaging. And although I am not a fan of his lifestyle, I loved that he was open and honest about it, and the fact that he played by his own rules . And I like earning my own money so his wealth was never a big draw for me.. I wish that Hugh stopped playing hard- to- get at an earlier age ,so he could have made an honest woman out of me.  People of ALL ages and ALL appearances have a chance at love and passion Duttoneer. I truly believe that I myself was deeply loved by a man who wasn't even attracted to my body. So I have experienced both extremes of the attraction spectrum. I am grateful to this day that he looked passed his preferences. That has been the best relationship of my life to date :) As I said earlier,this thread is not about people's looks or what people deserve in life . People have the right to use whatever criteria they want for choosing a mate. But when people are harshly critical and even derogatory about the looks of others when their looks are also noticeably flawed , the irony of it is never lost on me
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Edited by
peggy122
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Unfortunately we now live in a shallow society that puts so much emphasis on looks and body etc, that most people don't tend to see what's inside a person anymore. people are fussy in today's material, celebrity, enhanced world and therefore that is what people judge others on now Well Im never gonna deceive anybody by saying that looks don't matter. And certainly the way we present ourselves to the world will often inspire or discourage a person from exploring what we have to offer from the inside. But the balance is that no matter how inviting the package is, the quality of the contents inside is what matters the most :) yes but people don't get to see what's inside the box, simply because the wrapping doesn't appeal to them :( that's why there seems to be so many more unhappy and lonely people in the world, and i don't just mean desperate indians and africans, but people from all over, and different walks of life, all because all they want is someone next to them to look good! Hmmmm... I agree that looks are way more of a focus than they should be , but I would imagine there are many reasons why many of us are lonely and unhappy apart from superficiality. eg lack of confidence , a negative attitude towards life etc It doesn't seem like the beautiful looking couples are doing better in the relationship department than the so called average joes lol |
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Unfortunately we now live in a shallow society that puts so much emphasis on looks and body etc, that most people don't tend to see what's inside a person anymore. people are fussy in today's material, celebrity, enhanced world and therefore that is what people judge others on now Well Im never gonna deceive anybody by saying that looks don't matter. And certainly the way we present ourselves to the world will often inspire or discourage a person from exploring what we have to offer from the inside. But the balance is that no matter how inviting the package is, the quality of the contents inside is what matters the most :) yes but people don't get to see what's inside the box, simply because the wrapping doesn't appeal to them :( that's why there seems to be so many more unhappy and lonely people in the world, and i don't just mean desperate indians and africans, but people from all over, and different walks of life, all because all they want is someone next to them to look good! Hmmmm... I agree that looks are way more of a focus than they should be , but I would imagine there are many reasons why many of us are lonely and unhappy apart from superficiality. eg lack of confidence , a negative attitude towards life etc It doesn't seem like the beautiful looking couples are doing better in the relationship department than the so called average joes lol they probably don't need to or don't have the bollox to work hard at them, because they know if that one fails there is someone else willing to swoon over them, and so the circle continues. |
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Unfortunately we now live in a shallow society that puts so much emphasis on looks and body etc, that most people don't tend to see what's inside a person anymore. people are fussy in today's material, celebrity, enhanced world and therefore that is what people judge others on now Well Im never gonna deceive anybody by saying that looks don't matter. And certainly the way we present ourselves to the world will often inspire or discourage a person from exploring what we have to offer from the inside. But the balance is that no matter how inviting the package is, the quality of the contents inside is what matters the most :) yes but people don't get to see what's inside the box, simply because the wrapping doesn't appeal to them :( that's why there seems to be so many more unhappy and lonely people in the world, and i don't just mean desperate indians and africans, but people from all over, and different walks of life, all because all they want is someone next to them to look good! Hmmmm... I agree that looks are way more of a focus than they should be , but I would imagine there are many reasons why many of us are lonely and unhappy apart from superficiality. eg lack of confidence , a negative attitude towards life etc It doesn't seem like the beautiful looking couples are doing better in the relationship department than the so called average joes lol they probably don't need to or don't have the bollox to work hard at them, because they know if that one fails there is someone else willing to swoon over them, and so the circle continues. You may have a point there
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never mind having a point, what happened to my quoting ability!
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but those who are holding others to a higher standard then they hold themselves? puzzles me too People know their own issues, and what may be realistic for them. They can’t be expected to know someone else’s issues without being told. I understand that we don't know what other people's issues with US are until we are told. But it would be nice if we judged people's features with the compassion that we would want to be judged. As much as we are entitled to be harsh on other people's flaws , most of us would be crushed if people judged our flaws with that same harshness and scorn. |
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never mind having a point, what happened to my quoting ability!
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Where do people get their nerve
Sometimes I find it at the bottom of a bottle of 12 year old scotch... just sometimes! not all of the time.. The rest of the time I just find despair and desperation..not to mention an awful big hangover..lol |
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Where do people get their nerve Sometimes I find it at the bottom of a bottle of 12 year old scotch... just sometimes! not all of the time.. The rest of the time I just find despair and desperation..not to mention an awful big hangover..lol Aaawwww... What a rare treat... Doc is baring his soul... 
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That sounds very feasible to me. maybe the harsh criticizers on mingle are rich , powerful and talented like all the examples you described. Well if we don't at least consider that then aren't we just as guilty for judging them based on their looks alone? Men with money, will get almost any woman they want. They don't even have to have charm, talent or looks. Money talks so yes it is understandable why they would be picky. It would be interesting to interview the mingle criticizers to find out what they base their imperiousness on It may not only be money, it may be another quality all together that has enabled them in the past to attract a certain caliber of women, and they now because of that they refuse to 'settle' for less. If two guys of similar looks, one lives with his mom, no car, no job. The other owns his own hime, operates a small business, and is moderately successful. .. Is the expectation that these two gentleman date the same caliber of women based in their looks alone? |
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That sounds very feasible to me. maybe the harsh criticizers on mingle are rich , powerful and talented like all the examples you described. Well if we don't at least consider that then aren't we just as guilty for judging them based on their looks alone? Men with money, will get almost any woman they want. They don't even have to have charm, talent or looks. Money talks so yes it is understandable why they would be picky. It would be interesting to interview the mingle criticizers to find out what they base their imperiousness on It may not only be money, it may be another quality all together that has enabled them in the past to attract a certain caliber of women, and they now because of that they refuse to 'settle' for less. If two guys of similar looks, one lives with his mom, no car, no job. The other owns his own hime, operates a small business, and is moderately successful. .. Is the expectation that these two gentleman date the same caliber of women based in their looks alone? I agree that the criticizers may feel a sense of confidence in attributes other than their looks that have worked for them in the past. My thought however is that self confidence does not have to translate into berating others who don't meet one's standards. I will always wonder if harsh criticizers were subjected to the same harshness of judgment that they impute on others, what their reactions would be. |
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Men with money, will get almost any woman they want. They don't even have to have charm, talent or looks. Money talks so yes it is understandable why they would be picky. It would be interesting to interview the mingle criticizers to find out what they base their imperiousness on Can't find who wrote that, but what nonsense, very judgemental too. People with money have usually worked their behinds off to make it, they found this 'formula' to get it, which is basically called, confidence, stamina, having a dream, passion and determination to make it come true. That same attitude will appeal to women just as it does to sponsors and potential business investors. That's also the reason why you so often see that the ones who inherit that money usually lose the whole lot, because they never learnt how to create it nor how to hold on to it and/or expand. Those usually aren't the ones that appeal to women, cos they're losers, players, and party animals. This is also the reason why most ppl that win the lottery end up flat broke pretty fast. It's also quite judgemental to say that women are so shallow that they will go for a guy with money, regardless what kind of man he is. Apart from all that it's usually the happy ppl that are successful in life... not the whingers and whiners... Cos happy ppl are tapped in, tuned in and turned on to the flow and the flow brings prosperity and abundance. Sounds like you got hurt pretty bad. Whoever you are, cos I can't find it in this thread ... |
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I agree that the criticizers may feel a sense of confidence in attributes other than their looks that have worked for them in the past. My thought however is that self confidence does not have to translate into berating others who don't meet one's standards. I will always wonder if harsh criticizers were subjected to the same harshness of judgment that they impute on others, what their reactions would be. I agree that self confidence shouldn't translate into berating others. But I don't believe one should be given a 'pass' for berating others either because of some level of perceived societal attractiveness. I think my issue is the qualifier in the OP ...... I am NOT addressing people's looks in this thread. I am addressing the extremity of people's critique on OTHER's looks when they themselves will never be mistaken for Hugh Jackman or Jennifer Lopez. Is it that some people are so busy using their magnifying glasses on others that the forget to use their mirrors on themselves? Where do some people get the nerve to be so blind about their own looks, but so critical about the looks of others ? So if someone WILL be mistaken for Hugh Jackman or Jennifer Lopez then it is OK for them to be critical of other peoples looks? Is the way someone looks a personal accomplishment? or just genetic fortune? I personally think ones accomplishments in life, regardless of their personal attractiveness gives one the right to be picky. At the same time I don't think ANYONE has the right to PUBLICLY berate someone's physical attributes, regardless of what they themselves look like. Often we give the handsome/pretty a pass on bad-behavior simply because 'well, if they look like that, they can act like that', I disagree. |
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my nerve stems from knowing for sure, i have no chance of attracting the bold and the beautiful.....so i will go for the young and the restless...which lands me in the general hospital...just saying..
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hahahaha..that is just silly
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u know you liked it...even though it was silly....ha ha....but it is pretty accurate in my case.....she was young and i did end up in a hospital.....high blood pressure....okay, so it was a coincidence...but i think symbolically, it made a great story...just saying...
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Where do people get their nerve Sometimes I find it at the bottom of a bottle of 12 year old scotch... just sometimes! not all of the time. Sometimes Jack Daniels does that for me . . . while I'm still conscious that is. 
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....... Where do some people get the nerve to be so blind about their own looks, but so critical about the looks of others ? I think usually these people have great problems with their own self-esteem. And as it's much harder to focus on your own problems than it is to focus on others' ... they start knocking and judging them instead of looking at themselves and doing something about it. Maybe encountering 'bad' looking people, reminds him that he's not particularly doing so great himself. Someone who feels good about himself would still have preferences, but would deal with others who aren't his flavour in a different way. I don't think he'd feel the need to knock them, judge them etc. Just projecting onto others ... |
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Edited by
peggy122
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Tue 03/08/16 06:56 AM
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Men with money, will get almost any woman they want. They don't even have to have charm, talent or looks. Money talks so yes it is understandable why they would be picky. It would be interesting to interview the mingle criticizers to find out what they base their imperiousness on Can't find who wrote that, but what nonsense, very judgemental too. People with money have usually worked their behinds off to make it, they found this 'formula' to get it, which is basically called, confidence, stamina, having a dream, passion and determination to make it come true. That same attitude will appeal to women just as it does to sponsors and potential business investors. That's also the reason why you so often see that the ones who inherit that money usually lose the whole lot, because they never learnt how to create it nor how to hold on to it and/or expand. Those usually aren't the ones that appeal to women, cos they're losers, players, and party animals. This is also the reason why most ppl that win the lottery end up flat broke pretty fast. It's also quite judgemental to say that women are so shallow that they will go for a guy with money, regardless what kind of man he is. Apart from all that it's usually the happy ppl that are successful in life... not the whingers and whiners... Cos happy ppl are tapped in, tuned in and turned on to the flow and the flow brings prosperity and abundance. Sounds like you got hurt pretty bad. Whoever you are, cos I can't find it in this thread ... Hi. My name is Peggy122 and I am the proud author of the dim-witted discourse cited above.   When I said that "Men with money DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE charm, talent or looks to get almost any woman they want, I was NOT saying that ALL rich men DO NOT have charm, talent, confidence, stamina or any of the other desirable attributes that are attractive to women. What I was saying was that rich men DO NOT NEED to have any of those traits to attract women in the materialistic society in which we live. Even the people who are temporarily rich like lottery winners or celebrities, who squandered their fortune, often cite similar tales of having attracted women and people to them that they ever dreamed possible at the height of their wealth, and how quickly those "newly attracted" people disappeared once the wealth died. Some rich people even comment on the fact that some of the people who rejected them prior to their fortune were seeking after them in their current status of wealth. Now we could get into a discussion about if it was the new found confidence and enhanced appearance as a result of the new-found money, is what attracted these new people to them , and reversely it was the confidence that disappeared with the loss of money, which caused the newly attracted people to disappear... But that is a separate thread altogether. I never even said that ALL women are so shallow that they will go for a guy with money, regardless what kind of man he is. What I implied is that there ARE many women that will seek after a wealthy guy for his wealth alone, regardless of whether he has other appealing attributes or not. Have you ever heard the terms 'goldiggers', 'groupies' , 'leaches 'and 'hangers-on'? Those terms were actually invented to describe an entire breed of people who are only interested in persons for their wealth. I didn't make these terms up . They exist internationally. Does that mean that rich people ONLY get partners who are gold diggers? No they don't. There are many rich men who end up with partners who are intellectually and financially sound. And I never said that some rich men DID NOT attract that calibre of a mate or that rich persons didn't deserve that high calibre of mate. That is also a separate thread. My comment about rich men not needing to have desirable attributes to attract women is NOT a discussion about the internal attributes of rich men NOR is it a discussion about the type of woman that rich men deserve. What I was implying with my earlier statement, was that as long as wealth remains a major barometer of a person's value in this materialistic society, rich people will GENERALLY have access to a wide selection of prospects in the dating pool whether they possess other desirable qualities or not. You may call me judgmental for making that statement and I respect your assessment . I would even respect an assessment that the presentation/expression of my point earlier was inadequate or imbalanced if there are some that perceive such . But I personally see my perspective as being realistic in light of the materialistic society we live in. |
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