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Topic: Ex President Bill Clinton & "Orgy Island"
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Fri 05/13/16 03:14 PM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Fri 05/13/16 03:17 PM
Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known


Epstein, (inset left), and Clinton flew together at least 26 times on the disgraced financier's "Lolita Express." (John Coates, airport-data)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html?intcmp=hpbt1/

Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known | Fox News
Malia Zimmerman

Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.

Clinton’s presence aboard Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727 on 11 occasions has been reported, but flight logs show the number is more than double that, and trips between 2001 and 2003 included extended junkets around the world with Epstein and fellow passengers identified on manifests by their initials or first names, including “Tatiana.” The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.

“Bill Clinton … associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile,” said Conchita Sarnoff, of the Washington, D.C. based non-profit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, and author of a book on the Epstein case called "TrafficKing." “Why would a former president associate with a man like that?”

Epstein, who counts among his pals royal figures, heads of state, celebrities and fellow billionaires, spent 13 months in prison and home detention for solicitation and procurement of minors for prostitution. He allegedly had a team of traffickers who procured girls as young as 12 to service his friends on “Orgy Island,” an estate on Epstein's 72-acre island, called Little St. James, in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

Virginia Roberts, 32, who claims she was pimped out by Epstein at age 15, has previously claimed she saw Clinton at Epstein’s getaway in 2002, but logs do not show Clinton aboard any flights to St. Thomas, the nearest airport capable of accommodating Epstein's plane. They do show Clinton flying aboard Epstein’s plane to such destinations as Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, China, Brunei, London, New York, the Azores, Belgium, Norway, Russia and Africa.

Among those regularly traveling with Clinton were Epstein’s associates, New York socialite Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein’s assistant, Sarah Kellen, both of whom were investigated by the FBI and Palm Beach Police for recruiting girls for Epstein and his friends.

Official flight logs filed with the Federal Aviation Administration show Clinton traveled on some of the trips with as many as 10 U.S. Secret Service agents. However, on a five-leg Asia trip between May 22 and May 25, 2002, not a single Secret Service agent is listed. The U.S. Secret Service has declined to answer multiple Freedom of Information Act requests filed by FoxNews.com seeking information on these trips. Clinton would have been required to file a form to dismiss the agent detail, a former Secret Service agent told FoxNews.com.

In response to a separate FOIA request from FoxNews.com, the U.S. Secret Service said it has no records showing agents were ever on the island with Clinton.

A Clinton spokesperson did not return emails requesting comment about the former president’s relationship and travels with Epstein. The Clinton Library said it had no relevant information and does not keep track of Clinton’s travel records.

Martin Weinberg, Epstein’s current attorney, did not respond to multiple inquiries. Epstein said in a court filing said that he and his associates “have been the subject of the most outlandish and offensive attacks, allegations, and plain inventions.”

However, hundreds of pages of court records, including reports from police and FBI agents, reviewed by FoxNews.com, show Epstein was under law enforcement scrutiny for more than a year.

Police in Palm Beach, Fla., launched a year-long investigation in 2005 into Epstein after parents of a 14-year-old girl said their daughter was sexually abused by him. Police interviewed dozens of witnesses, confiscated his trash, performed surveillance and searched his Palm Beach mansion, ultimately identifying 20 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 who they said were sexually abused by Epstein.

In 2006, at the request of Palm Beach Police, the FBI launched a federal probe into allegations that Epstein and his personal assistants had “used facilities of interstate commerce to induce girls between the ages of 14 and 17 to engage in illegal sexual activities.”

According to court documents, police investigators found a “clear indication that Epstein’s staff was frequently working to schedule multiple young girls between the ages of 12 and 16 years old literally every day, often two or three times per day.”

One victim, in sworn deposition testimony, said Epstein began sexually assaulting her when she was 13 years old and molested her on more than 50 occasions over the next three years. The girls testified they were lured to Epstein’s home after being promised hundreds of dollars to be his model or masseuse, but when they arrived, he ordered them to take off their clothes and massage his naked body while he masturbated and used sex toys on them.

The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida prepared charging documents that accused Epstein of child sex abuse, witness tampering and money laundering, but Epstein took a plea deal before an indictment could be handed up.

On Sept. 24, 2007, in a deal shrouded in secrecy that left alleged victims shocked at its leniency, Epstein agreed to a 30-month sentence, including 18 months of jail time and 12 months of house arrest and the agreement to pay dozens of young girls under a federal statute providing for compensation to victims of child sexual abuse.

In exchange, the U.S. Attorney’s Office promised not to pursue any federal charges against Epstein or his co-conspirators.

Florida attorney Brad Edwards, who represented some of Epstein’s alleged victims, is suing the federal government over the secret non-prosecution agreement in hopes of having it overturned. Edwards claimed in court records that the government and Epstein concealed the deal from the victims “to prevent them from voicing any objection, and to avoid the firestorm of controversy that would have arisen if it had become known that the Government was immunizing a politically-connected billionaire and all of his co-conspirators from prosecution of hundreds of federal sex crimes against minor girls.”

The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida did not respond to a request for comment about the deal.

Other politicians, celebrities and businessmen, including presidential candidate Donald Trump, have been accused of fraternizing with Epstein. Trump lawyer Alan Garten told FoxNews.com in a statement Trump and Epstein are not pals.

“There was no relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump,” he said. “They were not friends and they did not socialize together.”


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Fri 05/13/16 03:17 PM
he might have caught something there,and it ain't no Fish!

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Fri 05/13/16 03:18 PM
slaphead My phone couldn't even handle this story


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Fri 05/13/16 03:20 PM

slaphead My phone couldn't even handle this story


laugh

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Fri 05/13/16 03:20 PM
Lolita Express roflroflroflroflroflroflroflroflroflrofl

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Fri 05/13/16 03:43 PM
With Billy's promiscuity I think Chelsea should insist on a DNA test.

Not to find out if Billy is her biological father but to see if the "undoable" Hillary is really her mother. laugh

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Fri 05/13/16 04:21 PM

With Billy's promiscuity I think Chelsea should insist on a DNA test.

Not to find out if Billy is her biological father but to see if the "undoable" Hillary is really her mother. laugh



rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Fri 05/13/16 07:48 PM


slaphead My phone couldn't even handle this story


laugh
People mind other peoples business when their own isn't worth minding..... Why don't the naïve wake up and accept that men are not faithful rather than continually citing examples that make the case of infidelity as a norm of men... DUH

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Fri 05/13/16 08:05 PM



slaphead My phone couldn't even handle this story


laugh
People mind other peoples business when their own isn't worth minding..... Why don't the naïve wake up and accept that men are not faithful rather than continually citing examples that make the case of infidelity as a norm of men... DUH


Because this post is not about infidelity but about the depravity of the men and women who facilitated this depravity and the corruption or ineptitude of law enforcement which allows them to virtually get away with it.

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Fri 05/13/16 09:42 PM

With Billy's promiscuity I think Chelsea should insist on a DNA test.

Not to find out if Billy is her biological father but to see if the "undoable" Hillary is really her mother. laugh


I am sure Hillary is the mother and Vince Foster is the father.

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Fri 05/13/16 09:42 PM

Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known


Epstein, (inset left), and Clinton flew together at least 26 times on the disgraced financier's "Lolita Express." (John Coates, airport-data)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html?intcmp=hpbt1/

Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known | Fox News
Malia Zimmerman

Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.

Clinton’s presence aboard Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727 on 11 occasions has been reported, but flight logs show the number is more than double that, and trips between 2001 and 2003 included extended junkets around the world with Epstein and fellow passengers identified on manifests by their initials or first names, including “Tatiana.” The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.

“Bill Clinton … associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile,” said Conchita Sarnoff, of the Washington, D.C. based non-profit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, and author of a book on the Epstein case called "TrafficKing." “Why would a former president associate with a man like that?”

Epstein, who counts among his pals royal figures, heads of state, celebrities and fellow billionaires, spent 13 months in prison and home detention for solicitation and procurement of minors for prostitution. He allegedly had a team of traffickers who procured girls as young as 12 to service his friends on “Orgy Island,” an estate on Epstein's 72-acre island, called Little St. James, in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

Virginia Roberts, 32, who claims she was pimped out by Epstein at age 15, has previously claimed she saw Clinton at Epstein’s getaway in 2002, but logs do not show Clinton aboard any flights to St. Thomas, the nearest airport capable of accommodating Epstein's plane. They do show Clinton flying aboard Epstein’s plane to such destinations as Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, China, Brunei, London, New York, the Azores, Belgium, Norway, Russia and Africa.

Among those regularly traveling with Clinton were Epstein’s associates, New York socialite Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein’s assistant, Sarah Kellen, both of whom were investigated by the FBI and Palm Beach Police for recruiting girls for Epstein and his friends.

Official flight logs filed with the Federal Aviation Administration show Clinton traveled on some of the trips with as many as 10 U.S. Secret Service agents. However, on a five-leg Asia trip between May 22 and May 25, 2002, not a single Secret Service agent is listed. The U.S. Secret Service has declined to answer multiple Freedom of Information Act requests filed by FoxNews.com seeking information on these trips. Clinton would have been required to file a form to dismiss the agent detail, a former Secret Service agent told FoxNews.com.

In response to a separate FOIA request from FoxNews.com, the U.S. Secret Service said it has no records showing agents were ever on the island with Clinton.

A Clinton spokesperson did not return emails requesting comment about the former president’s relationship and travels with Epstein. The Clinton Library said it had no relevant information and does not keep track of Clinton’s travel records.

Martin Weinberg, Epstein’s current attorney, did not respond to multiple inquiries. Epstein said in a court filing said that he and his associates “have been the subject of the most outlandish and offensive attacks, allegations, and plain inventions.”

However, hundreds of pages of court records, including reports from police and FBI agents, reviewed by FoxNews.com, show Epstein was under law enforcement scrutiny for more than a year.

Police in Palm Beach, Fla., launched a year-long investigation in 2005 into Epstein after parents of a 14-year-old girl said their daughter was sexually abused by him. Police interviewed dozens of witnesses, confiscated his trash, performed surveillance and searched his Palm Beach mansion, ultimately identifying 20 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 who they said were sexually abused by Epstein.

In 2006, at the request of Palm Beach Police, the FBI launched a federal probe into allegations that Epstein and his personal assistants had “used facilities of interstate commerce to induce girls between the ages of 14 and 17 to engage in illegal sexual activities.”

According to court documents, police investigators found a “clear indication that Epstein’s staff was frequently working to schedule multiple young girls between the ages of 12 and 16 years old literally every day, often two or three times per day.”

One victim, in sworn deposition testimony, said Epstein began sexually assaulting her when she was 13 years old and molested her on more than 50 occasions over the next three years. The girls testified they were lured to Epstein’s home after being promised hundreds of dollars to be his model or masseuse, but when they arrived, he ordered them to take off their clothes and massage his naked body while he masturbated and used sex toys on them.

The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida prepared charging documents that accused Epstein of child sex abuse, witness tampering and money laundering, but Epstein took a plea deal before an indictment could be handed up.

On Sept. 24, 2007, in a deal shrouded in secrecy that left alleged victims shocked at its leniency, Epstein agreed to a 30-month sentence, including 18 months of jail time and 12 months of house arrest and the agreement to pay dozens of young girls under a federal statute providing for compensation to victims of child sexual abuse.

In exchange, the U.S. Attorney’s Office promised not to pursue any federal charges against Epstein or his co-conspirators.

Florida attorney Brad Edwards, who represented some of Epstein’s alleged victims, is suing the federal government over the secret non-prosecution agreement in hopes of having it overturned. Edwards claimed in court records that the government and Epstein concealed the deal from the victims “to prevent them from voicing any objection, and to avoid the firestorm of controversy that would have arisen if it had become known that the Government was immunizing a politically-connected billionaire and all of his co-conspirators from prosecution of hundreds of federal sex crimes against minor girls.”

The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida did not respond to a request for comment about the deal.

Other politicians, celebrities and businessmen, including presidential candidate Donald Trump, have been accused of fraternizing with Epstein. Trump lawyer Alan Garten told FoxNews.com in a statement Trump and Epstein are not pals.

“There was no relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump,” he said. “They were not friends and they did not socialize together.”




Does this really surprise anyone? Honestly?

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Sat 05/14/16 12:16 AM



slaphead My phone couldn't even handle this story


laugh
People mind other peoples business when their own isn't worth minding..... Why don't the naïve wake up and accept that men are not faithful rather than continually citing examples that make the case of infidelity as a norm of men... DUH



My phone comment, was literal.
I had a difficult time posting the thread. And some knew that.

As for the rest.
Only evil doesn't wanted evil named spock
But thanks for stopping by & attempting to stop me from doing so ... AGAIN, about more perversions, involving CHILDREN

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Sat 05/14/16 12:34 AM
Edited by ErotiDoug on Sat 05/14/16 01:02 AM



slaphead My phone couldn't even handle this story


laugh
People mind other peoples business when their own isn't worth minding..... Why don't the naïve wake up and accept that men are not faithful rather than continually citing examples that make the case of infidelity as a norm of men... DUH


** Some guys are solid rocks, I will go out on a limb "Most are".smokin
*SassyEuro2, I love your news ! It is NEW to me drinker
** :banana: :banana: WoW! World leaders WoW! exactly :wink:

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Sat 05/14/16 12:46 AM




slaphead My phone couldn't even handle this story


laugh
People mind other peoples business when their own isn't worth minding..... Why don't the naïve wake up and accept that men are not faithful rather than continually citing examples that make the case of infidelity as a norm of men... DUH


** Some guys are solid rocks, I will go out on a limb "Most are".smokin
*SassyEuro2, I love your news ! It is NEW to me drinker
** :banana: :banana: "Orgy Island" were is it, exactly :wink:


Ummmmm, you realize it is with 12-16 year old girls right? That's pretty sick.

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Sat 05/14/16 12:59 AM





slaphead My phone couldn't even handle this story


laugh
People mind other peoples business when their own isn't worth minding..... Why don't the naïve wake up and accept that men are not faithful rather than continually citing examples that make the case of infidelity as a norm of men... DUH


** Some guys are solid rocks, I will go out on a limb "Most are".smokin
*SassyEuro2, I love your news ! It is NEW to me drinker
** :banana: :banana: "Orgy Island" were is it, exactly :wink:


Ummmmm, you realize it is with 12-16 year old girls right? That's pretty sick.



* NO way ! Your President

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Sat 05/14/16 11:42 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sat 05/14/16 11:44 AM

Bill Clinton was frequent flier on pedophile’s private jet ‘Lolita Express’

Newly released flight logs show former US president Bill Clinton flew on convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s infamous “Lolita Express” jet at least 26 times.

Initial reports in January suggested Clinton was on board the billionaire’s Boeing 727 on “only” 11 occasions, but documents obtained by Fox News show he flew with Epstein more than two dozen times.

I am not at all surprised the known rapist J. Epstein and one William Jefferson Clinton chilled together many times on Epstein's rape plane
— benedetto (@benedetto) May 14, 2016

Between 2001 and 2003, while Hillary was serving as a US Senator, Bill took a number of “extended junkets” around the world with the hedge fund manager.

There were also a number of other passengers identified on the manifests, usually with their initials or first name, including one named “Tatiana.”

Clinton reportedly ditched his Secret Service detail for at least five flights, even though there does not appear to be any of the required paperwork for signing the detail off.

Epstein served 13 months for soliciting “prostitutes” as young as 14 and is now a registered sex offender.

The flight logs showing those traveling with Clinton on board the plane, which reportedly had a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls as young as 12, included socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, who prosecutors believe procured underage girls for Epstein.

The FBI began investigating Epstein in 2006 when evidence emerged showing dozens of young girls may have been used as sex slaves by him and his famous friends.

A total of 40 women were identified by the FBI as having been illegally procured by Epstein, but a "sweetheart deal" in 2008 led to his single solicitation charge and short sentence.

The arrangement saw authorities agree not to press any criminal charges against "any potential co-conspirators of Epstein.”

The billionaire was also registered as a “Tier 1” sex offender.

Read up on Jeffrey Epstein (Jared Fogle) with real $$, and Bill Clinton. That is some stuff now
— jeffaa (@jeffaa) May 14, 2016

More questions arose over the relationship between Epstein and the Clintons, leading him to plead the fifth when asked if he knew the former president personally during a separate case in 2010 and 2011 when he was sued by some of his alleged victims.

@lizecom@amozu16 I don't think even 99.99% of Hillary backers know about Clinton & Epstein. It would certainly be a bombshell in GE.
— G Rhee (@SkyLightPattern) May 13, 2016

Last year, it emerged that Epstein allegedly transferred $3.5 million from his secret Swiss bank account to the Clinton Foundation around the same time as the FBI began investigating him.

One of the prosecutors involved in Epstein’s “sweetheart deal,” Matt Menchel, contributed $1,000 to Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential bid and $2,500 to Democratic Florida Senator Bill Nelson, who in April was tipped to be Hillary’s running mate.

He also sent $25,000 to a separate Clinton charity in July 2006, reported Radar.

Beyond the powerful couple, Epstein is linked to other well-known public figures such as former Clinton Press Secretary George Stephanopoulos, Britain’s Prince Andrew, TV personality Katie Couric, actor Kevin Spacey, and filmmaker Woody Allen.

https://www.rt.com/usa/343048-clinton-epstein-lolita-express/
*_Embedded links *

READ MORE: ​Britain’s Prince Andrew accused of using 'under-age sex slave'

​Britain’s Prince Andrew accused of using 'under-age sex slave'

2 Jan, 2015
http://www.rt.com/uk/219419-prince-andrew-child-abuse/





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Sat 05/14/16 12:08 PM
There are few known cures for pedophilia.
A tall piece of tree, and a short piece of rope,
are on the list of cures.


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Sat 05/14/16 12:10 PM
"Beyond the powerful couple, Epstein is linked to other well-known public figures such as former Clinton Press Secretary George Stephanopoulos, Britain’s Prince Andrew, TV personality Katie Couric, actor Kevin Spacey, and filmmaker Woody Allen."


what Kevin Spacey & KATIE COURIC?

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Mon 05/16/16 05:25 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Mon 05/16/16 05:30 AM

"Beyond the powerful couple, Epstein is linked to other well-known public figures such as former Clinton Press Secretary George Stephanopoulos, Britain’s Prince Andrew, TV personality Katie Couric, actor Kevin Spacey, and filmmaker Woody Allen."


what Kevin Spacey & KATIE COURIC?


Susan Sarandon slams Woody Allen over sex abuse allegations

Published May 16, 2016
Associated Press

Allen's daughter, Dylan, has said he molested her when she was 7. Allen has denied it.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/05/16/ susan-sarandon-slams-woody-allen-over-sex-abuse-allegations.html?cmpid=NL_morninghl/

* Well, this puts the old sayings, "You know a man by his friends" & "You are who your friends are"... In a whole new light. *



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Mon 05/16/16 05:52 AM
Lol big surprise here. Wasn't gonna vote for her anyway. Not gonna vote for Trump either. Well deal me out, I'm not playing in this rigged game.

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