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Topic: Anger
msharmony's photo
Sat 11/26/16 09:51 AM
Angry people are poor communicators and even worse listeners. Their empathy is foreshortened, and they have trouble imagining the other’s point of view. It makes people less healthy, and when both parties are angry, fewer are likely to find middle ground. If the only way people feel they will be heard is when they are angry, then our public discourse will be an arena for shouting past one another. Now that a sanctified modern method, a poll, has shown we’re angry, perhaps we can have a reasoned public discussion about how to calm the rage and begin the work. You can be principled even when you speak in a soft voice.


http://time.com/4166326/why-americans-are-so-angry-about-everything/

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sat 11/26/16 10:30 AM
I would suggest an adjustment of how this is expressed.

People who think that THE FACT THAT THEY ARE ANGRY, should be enough to decide truth and falsehood, or right and wrong, is what gets in the way of resolving problems.

Whether it is between feuding lovers, or feuding socio-political groups, when they forget that their emotions are reactions and biochemical elements of their physiology, and are NOT magic indications which should dictate decisions, they make bad choices.

And between the current political groups, I think the primary problem isn't the anger per se, it is the now long-standing decision of some, that everything they are concerned about will be framed in an us-versus-them, good guys-versus-bad-guys format.

You CAN'T come to an equitable resolution of ANYTHING, if you insist on starting with the demand that your opponents admit that they are liars, cheaters, traitors or whatever , first.

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 11/26/16 11:40 AM
You CAN'T come to an equitable resolution of ANYTHING, if you insist on starting with the demand that your opponents admit that they are liars, cheaters, traitors or whatever , first.


Tell that to those whining about Trump's political victory.

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/26/16 12:22 PM
complaint and anger are different animals...


msharmony's photo
Sat 11/26/16 12:28 PM

I would suggest an adjustment of how this is expressed.

People who think that THE FACT THAT THEY ARE ANGRY, should be enough to decide truth and falsehood, or right and wrong, is what gets in the way of resolving problems.

Whether it is between feuding lovers, or feuding socio-political groups, when they forget that their emotions are reactions and biochemical elements of their physiology, and are NOT magic indications which should dictate decisions, they make bad choices.

And between the current political groups, I think the primary problem isn't the anger per se, it is the now long-standing decision of some, that everything they are concerned about will be framed in an us-versus-them, good guys-versus-bad-guys format.

You CAN'T come to an equitable resolution of ANYTHING, if you insist on starting with the demand that your opponents admit that they are liars, cheaters, traitors or whatever , first.


I agree,, I am still learning myself

its difficult to find any information on the web without some bias context

all angry people are not the same,, but anger does often impair communication skills

sparkyae5's photo
Sat 11/26/16 01:30 PM

Angry people are poor communicators and even worse listeners. Their empathy is foreshortened, and they have trouble imagining the other’s point of view. It makes people less healthy, and when both parties are angry, fewer are likely to find middle ground. If the only way people feel they will be heard is when they are angry, then our public discourse will be an arena for shouting past one another. Now that a sanctified modern method, a poll, has shown we’re angry, perhaps we can have a reasoned public discussion about how to calm the rage and begin the work. You can be principled even when you speak in a soft voice.


http://time.com/4166326/why-americans-are-so-angry-about-everything/


RAGE CAN COME FROM A PERSON NOT HAVING PERMISSION TO FEEL THERE FEELINGS OF

ANGER AND NOT BEING ABLE EXPRESS THEM AND LET GO....SIMPLY BEING ABLE TO

EXPRESS OUR FEELINGS IS ALL THATS NEEDED TO HEAL.....IT CAN BE A PROBLEM WITH

MOST MALES BECAUSE HOW WE ARE TAUGHT AS CHILDREN....''BE A MAN''...''KEEP YOUR

COOL'' ...ETC....AND IT DOES HAPPEN TO THE GALS ALSO.....

no photo
Mon 11/28/16 07:21 AM
anger does often impair communication skills

Anger can also improve communication skills.
By motivating people that wouldn't normally communicate, to communicate.
Also, anger can burn through social facades and filters leading to more honest and direct communication; about what they really think, how they really feel, what they really know, and possibly the source.

No emotion is wholly positive or negative.

"Joy" can often impair communication skills.
As people want to keep feeling "good" can want to focus less on accurately communicating something preferring to focus on their "joy" feelings, or wanting to communicate the emotion rather than relevant information.

its difficult to find any information on the web without some bias context

Ask yourself why you are looking for that specific information.
If you have a specific purpose and goal for which to use the information you can filter out the bias pretty easily, it's never really relevant to anything.
If your purpose is the information itself, then you are ultimately looking for the bias as you aren't looking for information you're seeking to justify emotional activation.


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Mon 11/28/16 08:19 AM
I'm just wondering is there a historic linguistic connection between anger and danger or is it just a coincidence that all that separates them is a d

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Mon 11/28/16 08:31 AM
nothing wrong with getting angry. its healthy to express.

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Mon 11/28/16 09:41 AM
Edited by GentleS0ul on Mon 11/28/16 09:46 AM

I'm just wondering is there a historic linguistic connection between anger and danger or is it just a coincidence that all that separates them is a d

That is an excellent question SimpyComplicated!

Can anger be dangerous?
How about a numerous examples of the road rage... hmm, I think there is a connection.

OMG does rage have a linguistic connection to age too or it is just another coincidence?

Either way, you certainly know how to tickle the mind with interesting questions. LOL

Political, religious and sex topic are always emotionally charged. Some people do not even try to restrain their bias and constantly verbally assault others. I agree with OP. Anger is evident. And often distracting factor as well.

Anger itself is not a problem, just like any other emotion, in some cases it can be even a good motivator for self-improvement. I guess it depends on how it is channeled.

If it is not aimed at me personally I do not take it personally. I filter an anger, use an information and choose who to reply. Or not.
That's my way of dealing with it.

TMommy's photo
Mon 11/28/16 09:37 AM
anger is an emotional response

at times, it may be warranted

depends on cirumstances

how you express it? well some ways are healthier than others

no photo
Mon 11/28/16 10:07 AM
Absolutely TMommy!

Picasso's Guernica is just one of examples of reaction to the circumstances.



He used gray, black and white for a reason. There is black and white, but there are also many shades of gray. His painting captured number of emotions from desperation, fear to an ANGER. It is an anti-war statement and a great example of the powerful expression of anger as a reaction to the circumstances.

Not everyone is an artist. It would be very unreasonable to expect to find only people like Picasso on the forums.

An art of communication verbal, visual or any other type is also an art form. Verbal one is often unappreciated, especially by people hidden behind an Internet "anonymity".

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 11/28/16 10:18 AM
Anger is an emotion like all other emotions (happiness, sadness, envy, etc)

Emotions aren't positive or negative. It's what you do with them that is positive or negative

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Mon 11/28/16 10:57 AM
What's the question?

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Mon 11/28/16 04:56 PM
This reminded me of something that happened to me a few years back. I was walking around my town, as I often do and walking through a big parking lot. There was a car parked and a couple having a huge argument. I couldn't help overhear. The woman got out of the car, she was crying and walking in front of me. I said, "are you ok?" and she just continued to walk. Mind you, I'm really not into confrontations. This guy gave me the evil eye and said "mind your own business, everything is good." I told him, "it didn't sound good to me."

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Mon 11/28/16 05:22 PM

This reminded me of something that happened to me a few years back. I was walking around my town, as I often do and walking through a big parking lot. There was a car parked and a couple having a huge argument. I couldn't help overhear. The woman got out of the car, she was crying and walking in front of me. I said, "are you ok?" and she just continued to walk. Mind you, I'm really not into confrontations. This guy gave me the evil eye and said "mind your own business, everything is good." I told him, "it didn't sound good to me."


Well, at least you DID something catinidaho, but your help was rejected. Good thing that man didn't become violent.

Goofball73's photo
Mon 11/28/16 06:01 PM
Angry people want you to be as miserable as they are. And those kind of people suck. Now....if she is angry and we have an argument and it leads to hot make up sex? Oh I am so down with that. love

loudmind's photo
Sat 12/03/16 06:44 AM
anger does serve a purpose though... it reminds you at times who not to trust.

mysticalview21's photo
Sat 12/03/16 02:09 PM

Angry people are poor communicators and even worse listeners. Their empathy is foreshortened, and they have trouble imagining the other’s point of view. It makes people less healthy, and when both parties are angry, fewer are likely to find middle ground. If the only way people feel they will be heard is when they are angry, then our public discourse will be an arena for shouting past one another. Now that a sanctified modern method, a poll, has shown we’re angry, perhaps we can have a reasoned public discussion about how to calm the rage and begin the work. You can be principled even when you speak in a soft voice.


http://time.com/4166326/why-americans-are-so-angry-about-everything/



angry is a emotion just like other emotions... it is how one handles the anger... that is the part that is important ... and their are many ways that different people do that ...under the kind of circumstance it is warranted to be angry ... just for instance there are peaceful protest ... and then there are destructive protests ... which both party's can be angry ... and agree it is hard for some to find middle ground ... becouse some believe it is the right to be right all the time ... when in reality is wrong ...

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Wed 12/07/16 02:20 PM

anger does often impair communication skills

Anger can also improve communication skills.
By motivating people that wouldn't normally communicate, to communicate.
Also, anger can burn through social facades and filters leading to more honest and direct communication; about what they really think, how they really feel, what they really know, and possibly the source.

No emotion is wholly positive or negative.

"Joy" can often impair communication skills.
As people want to keep feeling "good" can want to focus less on accurately communicating something preferring to focus on their "joy" feelings, or wanting to communicate the emotion rather than relevant information.

its difficult to find any information on the web without some bias context

Ask yourself why you are looking for that specific information.
If you have a specific purpose and goal for which to use the information you can filter out the bias pretty easily, it's never really relevant to anything.
If your purpose is the information itself, then you are ultimately looking for the bias as you aren't looking for information you're seeking to justify emotional activation.


I agree. It's all in how you process it for the betterment of any kind of emotion in any situation. Awareness.

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