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With the job shortage....it's the employers call. Just like buying or selling a house. It's a buyer/seller market. The world doesn't owe anyone anything. This article doesn't say anything about the other applicants. I here over and over gow "the article doesn't tell the whole story" blah blah. Same thing. No one knows the other applicants that they feel want the job more than money
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Edited by
TxsGal3333
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Thu 03/16/17 11:33 AM
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All I can say since you don't seem to be getting the point of a Employer..
If I was to see something like that posted on Social Media even if they came to me after that was posted and I was not the one they posted it about. There would not even be a first interview can a Employer do that sure as hell they can take off what you post on social media to decide within the hiring.. There are certain questions a Employer can not ask on a application nor verbally.... But they can decide from what they have read or heard to determine if that person would be a asset to the company..Therefore if they feel that a person applying for a job is not a asset they would not have to worry about what I would pay them for they would not be hired.. When being interview some need to read what one should and should not ask and when to ask questions... |
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Edited by
alleoops
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Thu 03/16/17 11:49 AM
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All I can say since you don't seem to be getting the point of a Employer.. If I was to see something like that posted on Social Media even if they came to me after that was posted and I was not the one they posted it about. There would not even be a first interview can a Employer do that sure as hell they can take off what you post on social media to decide within the hiring.. There are certain questions a Employer can not ask on a application nor verbally.... But they can decide from what they have read or heard to determine if that person would be a asset to the company..Therefore if they feel that a person applying for a job is not a asset they would not have to worry about what I would pay them for they would not be hired.. When being interview some need to read what one should and should not ask and when to ask questions... I think she sees the employer as the oppressor and the applicant as the victim of mass oppression. btw, like your new pic. |
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so this lady claims she didn't get the job for asking one questions... then she makes a bee line right to the press... Lol... next stop... Cheet & swindle Law firm set- up But fact is, employers can (and do) hire whomever they want. And they do not have to hire someone they don't... that's the way it is. Its their money.. and ya can't be forced to spend it on someone you do not want...period no, it is not a claim, she has the twitter screen shots and no , there was no beeline for the press there was a mass twitter response to her simple twitter feed which went viral enough for media to pick up and yes, I know the slave culture gives employers ridiculous leeway in hiring based upon whatever they want, and claiming some other legitimate reason I never debated otherwise i shared the opinion that an employer disregarding someone simply because they inquire about their compensation if hired,, is FULL OF THEMSELVES and frankly,, a group of buttholes and yes, I know the slave culture gives employers ridiculous leeway in hiring based upon whatever they want, and claiming some other legitimate reason ___________________________________________________________________ that' right.. because it is their money, so they can hire whom they please. Same with you when you hire a painter or a carpenter, landscaper, ect. You don't get a good feeling about the guy.. he asked a question you don't like.. you don't hire him.... do you. You spend your money on who you like.. don't you. no different in the business world. |
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All I can say since you don't seem to be getting the point of a Employer.. If I was to see something like that posted on Social Media even if they came to me after that was posted and I was not the one they posted it about. There would not even be a first interview can a Employer do that sure as hell they can take off what you post on social media to decide within the hiring.. There are certain questions a Employer can not ask on a application nor verbally.... But they can decide from what they have read or heard to determine if that person would be a asset to the company..Therefore if they feel that a person applying for a job is not a asset they would not have to worry about what I would pay them for they would not be hired.. When being interview some need to read what one should and should not ask and when to ask questions... I think she sees the employer as the oppressor and the applicant as the victim of mass oppression. btw, like your new pic. no, actually an employer is: A legal entity that controls and directs a servant or worker under an express or implied contract of employment and pays (or is obligated to pay) him or her salary or wages in compensation Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/employer.html and I see ANY employer who feels like compensation is merely some afterthought or privilege they shouldnt have to dislose is full of themselves |
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All I can say since you don't seem to be getting the point of a Employer.. If I was to see something like that posted on Social Media even if they came to me after that was posted and I was not the one they posted it about. There would not even be a first interview can a Employer do that sure as hell they can take off what you post on social media to decide within the hiring.. There are certain questions a Employer can not ask on a application nor verbally.... But they can decide from what they have read or heard to determine if that person would be a asset to the company..Therefore if they feel that a person applying for a job is not a asset they would not have to worry about what I would pay them for they would not be hired.. When being interview some need to read what one should and should not ask and when to ask questions... Nah, I have never once met such an ******* that wouldnt disclose compensation upfront. I ask the questions that are important to me, to get a job that fits what I am looking for,,,,,not into scripted to please questions hopefully the interviewer asks questions to get an employee that fits the requirements |
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so this lady claims she didn't get the job for asking one questions... then she makes a bee line right to the press... Lol... next stop... Cheet & swindle Law firm set- up But fact is, employers can (and do) hire whomever they want. And they do not have to hire someone they don't... that's the way it is. Its their money.. and ya can't be forced to spend it on someone you do not want...period no, it is not a claim, she has the twitter screen shots and no , there was no beeline for the press there was a mass twitter response to her simple twitter feed which went viral enough for media to pick up and yes, I know the slave culture gives employers ridiculous leeway in hiring based upon whatever they want, and claiming some other legitimate reason I never debated otherwise i shared the opinion that an employer disregarding someone simply because they inquire about their compensation if hired,, is FULL OF THEMSELVES and frankly,, a group of buttholes and yes, I know the slave culture gives employers ridiculous leeway in hiring based upon whatever they want, and claiming some other legitimate reason ___________________________________________________________________ that' right.. because it is their money, so they can hire whom they please. Same with you when you hire a painter or a carpenter, landscaper, ect. You don't get a good feeling about the guy.. he asked a question you don't like.. you don't hire him.... do you. You spend your money on who you like.. don't you. no different in the business world. its their money is no excuse for being an ******* just a legal justification for being one |
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to clarify:
the point of the thread was NEVER to claim the employer made an ILLEGAL move just that they made a ******** move kind of like, it would be legal for me to never answer the door to a child because I didnt like who they dated,, but it would also be a ******** thing to do |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Thu 03/16/17 01:51 PM
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I don't think anyone is arguing legality I, also, don't think it's an ******* move on their part.
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 03/16/17 01:55 PM
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many things we will disagree on
Im noones slave, compensation is the POINT of being employed, it seperates WORKING(being a stay at home mom, volunteering, etc,,) from EMPLOYMENt it is the ONLY obligation the employer has to worry about compared to the list they expect of the employee so if they are too SPECIAL to disclose the ONLY obligation they have and the MAIN bartering chip in a person looking for work,, SCREW EM I wouldnt buy a car from a salesperson, no matter if having SOME transportation is better than having none,,, without them telling me the price of the damn thing,, and I am not going to put time and effort and gas into a company's interview process without them telling me the compensation for it |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Thu 03/16/17 01:57 PM
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many things we will disagree on Im noones slave, compensation is the POINT of being employed, it seperates WORKING(being a stay at home mom, volunteering, etc,,) from EMPLOYMENt it is the ONLY obligation the employer has to worry about compared to the list they expect of the employee so if they are too SPECIAL to disclose the ONLY obligation they have and the MAIN bartering chip in a person looking for work,, SCREW EM I have never asked about compensation like that. Most either say upfront or after the interviews are over, and you pass that. Then they will discuss it. The artical doesn't say anything about the other applicants. The employer has that right If the employer thought asking that wouldn't be a good fit, that is their right. She needs to get over it, learn from it and move on. These days...many are looking for the same jobs. Employers can be picky This ia the age of entitlement ❄ |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 03/16/17 01:59 PM
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yes,
I feel 'entitled' to know the price of the car I buy and I feel 'entitled' to know the compensation for the work expected to be done knowing how one will be valued is significant, keeping secret one's value to the employer is suspect,,, TO ME |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Thu 03/16/17 01:59 PM
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yes, I feel 'entitled' to know the price of the car I buy and I feel 'entitled' to know the compensation for the work expected to be done Totally differnet scenario. You can shop around and get a car any where. Those looking for jobs are a dime a dozen And the employer is entitled to not hire based on that |
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yes, I feel 'entitled' to know the price of the car I buy and I feel 'entitled' to know the compensation for the work expected to be done Totally differnet scenario. You can shop around and get a car any where. Those looking for jobs are a dime a dozen And the employer is entitled to not hire based on that actually there are not a dime a dozen what is a dime a dozen are jobs that FIT a persons skills and needs and one has to ask questions to know which jobs those are,,, and , again, this is nothing to do with entitlement , it has to do with dickitude |
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What is happening in this thread is this:
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seems like, but Im still going to add,, from newseek
Even in an age of historic underutilization of the labor force, the laws of supply and demand apply. Hiring is a negotiation between employers and employees over the terms at which they'll agree to come to work—wages, benefits, working conditions, length of commute, relocation requirements. Maybe some of these employers just aren't offering terms that are good enough. http://www.newsweek.com/any-job-better-no-job-71623 ie it is a two way negotiation, it is not a one way begging session,,,('just give me whatever you want') I am focusing on the job I want at this point because I have grown so tired or the mentality that all that matters is the employer. their ego and inconsideration are just too much,,,, |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Thu 03/16/17 02:15 PM
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Not before the interviews are over. What about her ego? It goes both ways. You don't discuss it until the interview is done. The interview goes both ways too
Almost everyone else gets it |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 03/16/17 02:19 PM
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Not before the interviews are over. Almost everyone else gets it the first interview WAS over. are they supposed to wait until two to three seperate trips to interviews before finding out about the compensation that may not be what they are looking for? its just nonsense. I dont know that 'everyone' else gets it, but I know that far too many accept it. Employer: we need you to answer information about your ssn, your address, your work record, your criminal and credit history, the job will require you to be available between these hours to have these skills and other skills 'as required' do you have any questions? Employee: Yes, what is the compensation and benefits,,,? Employee: HOW DARE YOU?! after we have had you jump some hoops and spend gas and time to get here and answer our questions and listen to our list of requirements? This is ALL about us,, how dare you inquire what YOU will get?! ...and people think thats ok,,,,,,smh |
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Not before the interviews are over. Almost everyone else gets it the first interview WAS over. are they supposed to wait until two to three seperate trips to interviews before finding out about the compensation that may not be what they are looking for? its just nonsense. I dont know that 'everyone' else gets it, but I know that far too many accept it. The interview process wasn't over if she was called back for a 2nd Yes! Or they can decide to move on and not go through it. She isn't entitled to anything. What about the others? Where is their entitlement? The world doesn't owe us anything |
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no, people dont owe us to not be JERKS,, but that doesn't mean they should be,,,,
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