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Topic: Do you deserve it?
SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 06/19/17 03:47 AM
Did you know that a lot of people feel they aren't worthy of love? And many aren't really aware that they feel that way either. Of course this doesn't help a quest of finding love.
I think we all have our doubts every now and then of not being good enough, or maybe unable to be a great provider, unable to offer much to another, or feeling you don't deserve to be loved and given to.

There are levels of not feeling worthy, high level prolly blocks you from finding love, low levels don't have to interfere much.

QUESTION: So I'm wondering, do you feel you are worthy of love and happiness?
And on a scale of 1 - 10, where would you put yourself?
10 = totally worthy and 1 = not feeling worthy



IgorFrankensteen's photo
Mon 06/19/17 04:20 AM
This week, not so much.

I never like to use the word "deserve," myself. It implies that other people SHOULD like or want me, and the last thing I want, is to even imply that someone owes me anything. You know what feels worse than being rejected? Having someone stay, and tell you "I was going to dump you, but I knew I would feel guilty about it later, so here I am."

TMommy's photo
Mon 06/19/17 04:33 AM
think that I am more open to the idea now then I used to be

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Mon 06/19/17 04:54 AM

Did you know that a lot of people feel they aren't worthy of love? And many aren't really aware that they feel that way either. Of course this doesn't help a quest of finding love.
I think we all have our doubts every now and then of not being good enough, or maybe unable to be a great provider, unable to offer much to another, or feeling you don't deserve to be loved and given to.

There are levels of not feeling worthy, high level prolly blocks you from finding love, low levels don't have to interfere much.

QUESTION: So I'm wondering, do you feel you are worthy of love and happiness?
And on a scale of 1 - 10, where would you put yourself?
10 = totally worthy and 1 = not feeling worthy




crystal flowerforyou thanks to you im totally feeling my self worth although i cannot gauge it accurately :angel:

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Mon 06/19/17 05:40 AM
On the scale of 1-10.
My number would probably be a 4.
Like Igor, I don't see it as deserving to find love. So that's why the 4.

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Mon 06/19/17 06:27 AM
Did you know that a lot of people feel they aren't worthy of love?

Did you know a lot of people victimize themselves as a means to serve a greater goal?
Such as telling themselves, getting themselves to feel, they aren't worthy of love (automatically, without realizing it), as a means of avoiding risk/fear, or in pursuit of a greater desire?

So I'm wondering, do you feel you are worthy of love and happiness?

When did happiness get thrown in there?
I tend not to think in terms of "worthiness."


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Mon 06/19/17 08:51 AM
As the great Clint Eastwood once said, "deserves got nothing to do with it".

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 06/19/17 09:24 AM
Rights, worth and love are social concepts accepted or rejected by individual humans in an effort to create a union of society.

In reality, only one species on this planet adhere to these concepts. Many of which are pure delusional thinking.

Are you worthy of Life?
We often say everything has a fundamental right to life.
That isn't true.
Jump in a cage with a hungry tiger or go swimming without protection with a great white shark and tell it that you have a right to life and are worthy of that right because you are alive.
It will eat you.
The right to love is the same way.

Rights (and worth) are things that are bestowed upon you by other humans. They are also things that you bestow upon others.
There are two sides to it.
You have the ability to accept or reject.

The acceptance or rejection is based on it's worth or lack of worth to you.
Here is an example (I am NOT homicidal, its an example for heaven's sake)

I give you the right to life.
You expect that right.
You being alive has worth to me for a number of reasons up to and including my desire for freedom. (No Prison Time)
If you have no worth to me I may see your life as worthless and refuse to allow you to live.
You may beg me not to kill you but everything you say has no value to me so I kill you anyway.
However, If you say or demonstrate something that has value to me, I may stay my hand.

So I'm wondering, do you feel you are worthy of love and happiness?
And on a scale of 1 - 10, where would you put yourself?
10 = totally worthy and 1 = not feeling worthy


Sure I do, why wouldn't I?

Where would I rate my worthiness to feel love and happiness from others I meet?
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10

I answer at all points on the scale because I know that my worth depends on someone else's perception. Everything I consider about me is an infinity because without me, I would not exist.

I love me, Why shouldn't I?

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Mon 06/19/17 09:25 AM

As the great Clint Eastwood once said, "deserves got nothing to do with it".

laugh Did I fire 6 shots or only 5?

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 06/19/17 10:28 AM

think that I am more open to the idea now then I used to be

Yeah, me too, I've grown a lot in that sense. But I still do go back and forth at times... I still got some limiting beliefs that occasionally hinder me.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 06/19/17 10:58 AM

Are you worthy of Life?
We often say everything has a fundamental right to life.
That isn't true.
Jump in a cage with a hungry tiger or go swimming without protection with a great white shark and tell it that you have a right to life and are worthy of that right because you are alive.
It will eat you.
The right to love is the same way.

Beg to differ. If you are daft enough to do something like that, then you still have the right to live and to life. You just choose to take that risk and die.
If another would throw you in such a situation, you also still have the right to live. No one can take that away from you. It would mean the other is playing god, but even if he would get you killed he has not taken your right to live. He has killed you all right, but that's not the same thing as taking someone's right to live. No other person nor beast can ever take that away from you.

Rights (and worth) are things that are bestowed upon you by other humans. They are also things that you bestow upon others.
There are two sides to it.
You have the ability to accept or reject.

I have a different view to this.... This is what happens, ppl make the opinion of others their barometer for feeling worthy or not. That means you're dependent on them in order to feel good. Also meaning that when surrounded by ppl you don't resonate with, you will feel unworthy and unloved. That's why it's so important to have love of self and self-worth so you aren't dependent on others, but can always feel good about yourself no matter what.


The acceptance or rejection is based on it's worth or lack of worth to you.
Here is an example (I am NOT homicidal, its an example for heaven's sake)

I give you the right to life.

No offense, but how? You haven't the power. You can create life by siring a child, you can kill someone or let someone live, but you cannot give someone the right to life cos it's not yours to give.


You expect that right.

No, I don't expect that, I GOT that right. Like everybody else...


You being alive has worth to me for a number of reasons up to and including my desire for freedom. (No Prison Time)
If you have no worth to me I may see your life as worthless and refuse to allow you to live.
You may beg me not to kill you but everything you say has no value to me so I kill you anyway.
However, If you say or demonstrate something that has value to me, I may stay my hand.

The way I see it you may be in a position to take a life, but not, never ever, the right to life. I'm not religious in the church kind of sense, grin, but you're not god...



Where would I rate my worthiness to feel love and happiness from others I meet?
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10

I answer at all points on the scale because I know that my worth depends on someone else's perception. Everything I consider about me is an infinity because without me, I would not exist.

I love me, Why shouldn't I?


Maybe it's semantics but that seems to be a contradiction: you love yourself but your sense of worth goes up and down, depending on how others perceive you?

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 06/19/17 11:00 AM

This week, not so much.

I never like to use the word "deserve," myself. It implies that other people SHOULD like or want me, and the last thing I want, is to even imply that someone owes me anything. You know what feels worse than being rejected? Having someone stay, and tell you "I was going to dump you, but I knew I would feel guilty about it later, so here I am."

I can get mixed feelings about the word 'deserve'. But I think there's two ways of looking at it: Deserving in the sense that others feel you are worthy to be given to. And deserving in the sense that you yourself feel worthy to be given to, to receive. And that isn't necessarily a demanding version, firstly you got to be able to feel deserving enough to give it to yourself. That's where it all starts after all when it comes to love and happiness etc.
It's about being able to receive, and you cannot do that if you feel unworthy i.e. not deserving of it.
But I'm quite sure you understand all that tongue2

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 06/19/17 11:03 AM


Did you know that a lot of people feel they aren't worthy of love? And many aren't really aware that they feel that way either. Of course this doesn't help a quest of finding love.
I think we all have our doubts every now and then of not being good enough, or maybe unable to be a great provider, unable to offer much to another, or feeling you don't deserve to be loved and given to.

There are levels of not feeling worthy, high level prolly blocks you from finding love, low levels don't have to interfere much.

QUESTION: So I'm wondering, do you feel you are worthy of love and happiness?
And on a scale of 1 - 10, where would you put yourself?
10 = totally worthy and 1 = not feeling worthy




crystal flowerforyou thanks to you im totally feeling my self worth although i cannot gauge it accurately :angel:

It is tricky, isn't it! I think I'm somewhere around a 7 in general, with peaks and dips here and there, lol. It ain't a stable line just yet. Working on it though! If I can get to holding it stable on a 7, I'd be quite happy. Especially when there are still peaks :D

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Mon 06/19/17 11:03 AM
10 of course, and anyone who thinks they are worth less than 10 stop feeling sorry for yourself and don't let anyone else tell you differently flowerforyou

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 06/19/17 11:32 AM
No offense, but how? You haven't the power. You can create life by siring a child, you can kill someone or let someone live, but you cannot give someone the right to life cos it's not yours to give.

None Taken.

Who or what gives you any right?
God?
Rights are PERMISSIONS. Something one bestows upon another which can be accepted or rejected.
Definitions:
right
rīt/
noun
plural noun: rights

1.
that which is morally correct, just, or honorable.
"she doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong"
synonyms: goodness, righteousness, virtue, integrity, rectitude, propriety, morality, truth, honesty, honor, justice, fairness, equity; More
lawfulness, legality
"the difference between right and wrong"
antonyms: wrong
2.
a moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something or to act in a certain way.
"she had every right to be angry"
synonyms: entitlement, prerogative, privilege, advantage, due, birthright, liberty, authority, power, license, permission, dispensation, leave, sanction, freedom; historicaldroit
"you have the right to say no"
the authority to perform, publish, film, or televise a particular work, event, etc.
"they sold the paperback rights"

3.
the right-hand part, side, or direction.
"take the first turning on the right"
(in football or a similar sport) the right-hand half of the field when facing the opponent's goal.
Baseball
short for right field.
"a looping single to right"
the right wing of an army.
a right turn.
"he made a right in Dorchester Avenue"
a road or entrance on the right.
"take the first right over the stream"
(especially in the context of boxing) a person's right fist.
a blow given with this.
"the young cop swung a terrific right"
4.
a grouping or political party favoring conservative views and supporting capitalist economic principles.

verb
3rd person present: rights

1.
restore to a normal or upright position.
"we righted the capsized dinghy"
synonyms: set upright, turn back over
"the way to right a capsized dinghy"


Life is nothing more than the process of existing over time.
There is no requirement of rights or worthiness to experience life.
You are either alive or you are not.

The Universe will kill you unless you take steps to prevent that.
Those precautions are decisions made by yourself and others to prevent death.
You eat to prevent yourself from starving to death. It is a decision you make to stave off death. If you had an inherent all encompassing right to life, it wouldn't matter if you eat or not you would remain alive.

The fact that something else can kill you but chooses not to is an example of the permission it gives you to live. That lion did not kill you because it was not hungry not because it acknowledges your right to life. It also did not kill you because of your own sense of worth or its sense of your worth. If It gets hungry and deems you worthy as a meal it will kill you and eat you no matter what your rights are.

Don't get me wrong, Rights are important in a society. I am glad we have them. It keeps us from killing ach other as we wish. Just understand that rights are given and accepted or rejected.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 06/19/17 12:50 PM
We will have to agree to disagree on this
flowerforyou

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Mon 06/19/17 12:56 PM

We will have to agree to disagree on this
flowerforyou

So what you're saying is mikeys vote doesn't count? huh

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 06/19/17 02:49 PM


We will have to agree to disagree on this
flowerforyou

So what you're saying is mikeys vote doesn't count? huh


I'm sorry Mikey! Of course your vote counts :) You must be a very confident chap, great!
flowerforyou waving

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 06/19/17 03:02 PM

We will have to agree to disagree on this
flowerforyou

Okay, No worries

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Mon 06/19/17 03:48 PM
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