Topic: Being too picky.. should not be mistaken for commitment issu
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Fri 09/15/17 10:12 AM

^ The Artful Dodger
.. stands in the middle of the topic room and takes a big bow... while removing his hat for the ladies

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Fri 09/15/17 10:19 AM

Ultimately, the problem is within us, not those we reject. There are deep scars or fears preventing us from committing or moving forward so we rationalize by finding fault with our partners or dates.
.. yes always best to point the finger inword first.. but sometimes certain things with other people cannot be overlooked.. but within time.. they can be manageable and acceptable.. and even turned into something endearing...
But just like buying a new car sticker shock can be a bugger..lol

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Fri 09/15/17 02:21 PM
I always wonder in a relationship, how much time should you give it before you decide this is the right person for me and I want to commit and be exclusive? Is it 2 months? 6 months? A year? A year seems long if you still have doubts. A long time ago someone told me, you should never settle. I guess you have to figure out what is important to you.

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Fri 09/15/17 03:47 PM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Fri 09/15/17 03:51 PM
Funny how you keep asking this question / raising this subject again and again.
There is nothing wrong with just having fun and keeping an eye out for another one, in your words "better partner".
It is however wrong to do this when you know full well the woman you're 'only having fun with' wants more. That's where you should have the baws to pull the plug. It is selfish and heartless to continue using someone for your own fun for as long as it suits you, basically until someone better comes along.

As long as the other does the same thing, just entertains herself with you whilst keeping an eye out for a better bloke, sure. Fine. No problem. Otherwise an act of sheer selfishness. And damaging to other ppl, far from nice.

Also, aren't you maybe going for the wrong age group? If you're having fun with younger women, you may sooner end up with someone who wants the commitment, family, the whole enchilada?
Maybe you're better of with a woman in her 40s who's had the whole enchilada, has her own life, career and kids, and only wants a great sexlife and fun.

no1phD's photo
Fri 09/15/17 04:03 PM

Funny how you keep asking this question / raising this subject again and again.
There is nothing wrong with just having fun and keeping an eye out for another one, in your words "better partner".
It is however wrong to do this when you know full well the woman you're 'only having fun with' wants more. That's where you should have the baws to pull the plug. It is selfish and heartless to continue using someone for your own fun for as long as it suits you, basically until someone better comes along.

As long as the other does the same thing, just entertains herself with you whilst keeping an eye out for a better bloke, sure. Fine. No problem. Otherwise an act of sheer selfishness. And damaging to other ppl, far from nice.

Also, aren't you maybe going for the wrong age group? If you're having fun with younger women, you may sooner end up with someone who wants the commitment, family, the whole enchilada?
Maybe you're better of with a woman in her 40s who's had the whole enchilada, has her own life, career and kids, and only wants a great sexlife and fun.

. Oh sweetheart they all just want a great sex life and fun... that's why they date me.lol.. that's the problem I'm really good at that stuff not so great at the committed relationship stuff

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Fri 09/15/17 04:04 PM

Awww no.1 ... come sit on my lap .. and tell blondey all about the mole ... did it glow in the dark when you turned the lights out .. one day you will find your perfect woman .... we can go shopping for her together if you like :wink: smooched waving
..ok
. Just as long as you let me buy as coffee as we Window Shop

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Fri 09/15/17 04:05 PM

I always wonder in a relationship, how much time should you give it before you decide this is the right person for me and I want to commit and be exclusive? Is it 2 months? 6 months? A year? A year seems long if you still have doubts. A long time ago someone told me, you should never settle. I guess you have to figure out what is important to you.
.. see this is a good question..
And it leads itself well to the topic..
It's in that waiting to figure out if this person is right for you.. that's when you discover things about them.. that might rub you the wrong way just a little bit.. but after 6 months of investing in them it's hard to break things off.. of course it has to be done but it's still hard

no1phD's photo
Fri 09/15/17 04:06 PM

Funny how you keep asking this question / raising this subject again and again.
There is nothing wrong with just having fun and keeping an eye out for another one, in your words "better partner".
It is however wrong to do this when you know full well the woman you're 'only having fun with' wants more. That's where you should have the baws to pull the plug. It is selfish and heartless to continue using someone for your own fun for as long as it suits you, basically until someone better comes along.

As long as the other does the same thing, just entertains herself with you whilst keeping an eye out for a better bloke, sure. Fine. No problem. Otherwise an act of sheer selfishness. And damaging to other ppl, far from nice.

Also, aren't you maybe going for the wrong age group? If you're having fun with younger women, you may sooner end up with someone who wants the commitment, family, the whole enchilada?
Maybe you're better of with a woman in her 40s who's had the whole enchilada, has her own life, career and kids, and only wants a great sexlife and fun.

..and yes I always break things off once I feel like the relationship isn't going to go anywhere.. or I can't see a real future with the person.. for whatever reason they can be the nicest person in the world..
But I'm not feeling it I'm not feeling it

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Fri 09/15/17 08:27 PM




But I'm not feeling it I'm not feeling it


yea, ya gotta feel it..

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Fri 09/15/17 10:30 PM


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. I can't why don't you just tell us

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Sat 09/16/17 12:09 AM
There are times when we have a right to be picky, dating selection is one of them.

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Sat 09/16/17 12:31 AM

The issue here is that he's always picky and to a fault.

That may be true and he should certainly look into his motives that result in unwanted outcomes. Thing is, he is already looking so no further comment is likely to help.

Compulsive behavior can be changed but the change must come from within. Otherwise nothing is changed, nothing is learned about the self.

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Sat 09/16/17 05:51 AM


Hmmm what I see is that you have never really been in love..
because faults cease to exist when in that state.

You want to walk out of that state into a parallel universe
where everyone is perfect.

Well you can have love or you can have perfection methinks.


Brilliant

When one is in love, the minor flaws cease to exist or don't matter.
This is only half true as once the sex buzz stops the real person is then seen and may not be as formerly seen and felt. People in the initial throes of love are chemically impaired as they are experiencing how the body responds to physical and emotional chemistry which completely dupes rational experience which later shows up and requires a re evaluation of what the person felt and thought. the joke of this is love is an illusion and marriage the alarm clock...

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Sat 09/16/17 08:12 AM
When did looking for what you want become a commitment issue..?.

Depends on how you're looking.
People can create an idea of "what they want" as a means to keep from getting into meaningful relationships.

How realistic are the things "you want."

Some people use their idealizations as a defense mechanism to keep from taking responsibility or interfering with their self image.

I would say if looking for "what you want" has kept you from dating anyone at all, then it's probably not "commitment issues."

I would say if looking for "what you want" has kept you from staying with someone longer than 2 weeks or 6 months, and seems to happen a lot right after you start having sex with someone you're dating, then it is "commitment issues," albeit more complicated.

You're dating someone! and they keep pushing for more commitment... then the argument starts ....why can't you . Make a commitment to me with me... what's the matter with you?.. one minute you like being with me the next minute you're distant!!

That sounds more like communication issues than commitment issues.

But it doesn't mean you don't enjoy there company or doing things together you just don't want to make them a life partner...

Where is the problem with that?

There is a process involved with love.
Stages. Different stages release different chemicals (hormones, pheromones) which influence behavior and perceptions differently.

Behavioral changes lead to changes in communication.
Direct and indirect.
That communication leads to reciprocal changes, down to the basic chemistry of the stages.

There's a problem if your communication isn't changing to indicate changing emotional bonding which necessitates their changing in response.

If there is no change in the communication, expression, then you are either hiding it and therefore ultimately "lying" to them, or fighting against it/denying the change thereby have already made up your mind to reject them but aren't aware of it, or the changes in you don't exist, which mean they're feeling something you aren't or they're feeling something they really aren't feeling and are realizing that they aren't really feeling it and are a step ahead of themselves.

So the problem is in communication.
Try planning some kind of military campaign where each of you oscillates between a serious tone, a joyous tone, and a sarcastic tone.
There's expected behavior that's possibly necessary now and you can't determine if they're serious, or psychotic.
That just equates to not really knowing what's going on.

Not knowing what's going on automatically leads to fear and bad emotions.
Those lead to bad decisions to get to a state/place where you know what's going on.

There's the problem.


But there's nothing wrong with being picky..

Sure there is.
Look up the kid that ate nothing but chicken nuggets for 15 years.

Live in the moment enjoy what's in front of you at that moment.. that's my motto..

That would suck.
That means there's no real purpose to a concept of time.
"Oh no, I have to poop right now! Well, I'm in my car so I better just go in my pants or the backseat, or just pull over and stick my butt out the window. There's no toilet right in front of me so I can't plan ahead."

If you don't live that way, then your motto isn't really true, it's just something you tell yourself because that's how you want to see yourself, which means false self image.



Of course that can be a "commitment issue" as well.
Someone committing so strongly to seeing themselves a certain way that they will avoid or destroy anything (even truth and rational thought) to maintain that image.
Some people commit to an idea of themselves and how their life (and partner) is "supposed" to be that they are unable to "commit" to anything else until the universe works around them and "clicks" that reality into place for them.

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Sat 09/16/17 10:35 AM
Lol..I think we have a lot in common..and I wouldn't say it's being too picky or fear of committing..I think it's more like self love..I find myself drawn to some wonderful men and have some wonderful times with them..but in my down time I have discovered that I value my me time the most..and the part of me that is my equal is my children.. Everytime I find a great companion that I have fun with,..the second it moves to a more serious level.. I tuck tail and run..falling in love is easy..but the thought of giving up my me for we..?..nope..we is my kids and I..sometimes I wish I could commit to one special man..but I can't give up my love for all my past interests.. I am friends with most of the men I have loved..and I value my alone time..yup.. I am truly in love with myself..not vainly..but happily..and if the man I am with gets too close.. I see his faults or feel smothered..and then I find my wings and flutter off..to my happy nest of mine..lol..drinker flowerforyou

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Sat 09/16/17 11:03 PM



Hmmm what I see is that you have never really been in love..
because faults cease to exist when in that state.

You want to walk out of that state into a parallel universe
where everyone is perfect.

Well you can have love or you can have perfection methinks.


Brilliant

When one is in love, the minor flaws cease to exist or don't matter.
This is only half true as once the sex buzz stops the real person is then seen and may not be as formerly seen and felt. People in the initial throes of love are chemically impaired as they are experiencing how the body responds to physical and emotional chemistry which completely dupes rational experience which later shows up and requires a re evaluation of what the person felt and thought. the joke of this is love is an illusion and marriage the alarm clock...

laugh Good one guy

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Thu 09/21/17 03:28 AM
Hi Doc waving

I think you can be as picky as you want, fall in love whenever you please, be as committed or as uncommitted as you like, and change your feelings about the person whenever you dare.

But shouldnt the woman agree to the type of relationship you want, and enjoy that arrangement as much as you do?

That seems to be the only real glitch in the scenarios you frequently describe.

You are often the only person in the relationship, who is happy with the loose romantic arrangement, which brings me to the following question.

Once you realise that you cant give a woman the kind of commitment she seeks , and you keep that knowledge to yourself or stay with her, arent you inadvertantly messing with her emotions ?

After all, as she invests more and more of her time and heart into YOU ONLY, your heart remains in continuous pursuit of abstract images of perfection.

Between the time taken for her to fall in love with you and then get over you when the arrangement forcibly ends, arent you robbing her of precious time that she could be using to find a guy who adores all the things about her that you scorn , and who yearns to give her the commitment that you deny her?

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Thu 09/21/17 03:59 AM

When did looking for what you want become a commitment issue..?.

Depends on how you're looking.
People can create an idea of "what they want" as a means to keep from getting into meaningful relationships.

How realistic are the things "you want."

Some people use their idealizations as a defense mechanism to keep from taking responsibility or interfering with their self image.

I would say if looking for "what you want" has kept you from dating anyone at all, then it's probably not "commitment issues."

I would say if looking for "what you want" has kept you from staying with someone longer than 2 weeks or 6 months, and seems to happen a lot right after you start having sex with someone you're dating, then it is "commitment issues," albeit more complicated.

You're dating someone! and they keep pushing for more commitment... then the argument starts ....why can't you . Make a commitment to me with me... what's the matter with you?.. one minute you like being with me the next minute you're distant!!

That sounds more like communication issues than commitment issues.

But it doesn't mean you don't enjoy there company or doing things together you just don't want to make them a life partner...

Where is the problem with that?

There is a process involved with love.
Stages. Different stages release different chemicals (hormones, pheromones) which influence behavior and perceptions differently.

Behavioral changes lead to changes in communication.
Direct and indirect.
That communication leads to reciprocal changes, down to the basic chemistry of the stages.

There's a problem if your communication isn't changing to indicate changing emotional bonding which necessitates their changing in response.

If there is no change in the communication, expression, then you are either hiding it and therefore ultimately "lying" to them, or fighting against it/denying the change thereby have already made up your mind to reject them but aren't aware of it, or the changes in you don't exist, which mean they're feeling something you aren't or they're feeling something they really aren't feeling and are realizing that they aren't really feeling it and are a step ahead of themselves.

So the problem is in communication.
Try planning some kind of military campaign where each of you oscillates between a serious tone, a joyous tone, and a sarcastic tone.
There's expected behavior that's possibly necessary now and you can't determine if they're serious, or psychotic.
That just equates to not really knowing what's going on.

Not knowing what's going on automatically leads to fear and bad emotions.
Those lead to bad decisions to get to a state/place where you know what's going on.

There's the problem.


But there's nothing wrong with being picky..

Sure there is.
Look up the kid that ate nothing but chicken nuggets for 15 years.

Live in the moment enjoy what's in front of you at that moment.. that's my motto..

That would suck.
That means there's no real purpose to a concept of time.
"Oh no, I have to poop right now! Well, I'm in my car so I better just go in my pants or the backseat, or just pull over and stick my butt out the window. There's no toilet right in front of me so I can't plan ahead."

If you don't live that way, then your motto isn't really true, it's just something you tell yourself because that's how you want to see yourself, which means false self image.



Of course that can be a "commitment issue" as well.
Someone committing so strongly to seeing themselves a certain way that they will avoid or destroy anything (even truth and rational thought) to maintain that image.
Some people commit to an idea of themselves and how their life (and partner) is "supposed" to be that they are unable to "commit" to anything else until the universe works around them and "clicks" that reality into place for them.


Excellent post! flowerforyou

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Wed 09/27/17 06:50 AM
Humm if some feel that one is being too picky they need to back off and access their own life first..

Myself, it could be I'm too picky when it comes to dating and could be the reason I'm single..if so then so be it.....

I will not lower what I'm looking for, cause others think you should.. Hell I just will not look at all..

There are certain things I just will not deal with when it comes to dating... Personality is a must for me.... if they don't have a sense of humor it will never happen for me...

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Wed 09/27/17 11:45 AM
well, i say no one knows exactly what the love really is. because for everyone their feels it in a different way according to his/her nature. there is no exact definition of true love we can cater.

but,

i say, do love for your own self not for the other person. if you truly love someone then love him with this reason that you want to love him/her. if you do it in that way, you will never compare the return. The strongest love in the world is one way love. because you have all the right on your love which way and how you do that. and you will be keep loving until your last breath no matter the other person loves you in return or not. because true love never ends. what ends is likes and wants. and love is beyond these self desires.

that's how i see the relationship.