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Topic: Trump and the news media
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Tue 06/05/18 12:28 AM
Lets put some truth here about a little town in Ga called "Cedartown". and all the illegals that were there at the time. Yes, at one time the town was covered up. Full of them. But here is the truth of the matter. I know. Because I was there.

Simply put, all these illegals that were there, were there because 2 or 3 of the bigger companies that were there brought them in. These companies sent trucks to a certain part of Texas. Where they would load them up. As many as they could get in a 53 ft trailer without smothering them to death and bring them to Cedartown.

One company employed something over a thousand of them. This company got slapped on the hand several times during the Bush years. That's about all that ever happened. When Obama was in office he cracked down on the illegals. He was the first president besides Clinton to try. Except he did try harder.

All in all this one company brought into Cedartown something over 3 thousand illegals. Two other companies that I know about followed suit. Before you knew it, almost every job was covered in Cedartown by illegals.

But it wasn't because illegals came here on there own accord. They were brought here by these companies. Under Obama, these three companies wound up out of business. The largest of these three companies, the owner, wound up in prison.


Before any of the other 2 companies head honchos could get prosecuted, they left the country. Closed their doors And left Cedartown. After that, all the illegals left. Nobody had to make them. None were deported. They all went back home to Guatemala & Mexico.


One last thing, each of these companies played a part in helping these illegals defraud the government. They intentionally paid a low wage so they could falsify documents that helped these illegals that could hardly speak English get certain benefits from the government.


I can't blame anyone for wanting to feed their family. These people are used to living on nothing. You go to their country and promise that if they will come here and work for you they will get 5 to 7 bucks an hour, yes, they will come. 5 to 7 bucks an hour is better than 0 an hour. And yes, five families will live in a four-room house. At least they have a roof over there heads and food in their stomachs. When you are used to living on 0, everything is a step up.

Yes, a lot of them walk over here. But many are brought here by companies simply because they will work cheaper. Many Americans don't want to work with there hands anymore. They want to make big money and sit on their butts. These people are glad to come and take our jobs. Because we have become a lazy country full of lazy people that don't want to work. If they can't sit in front of a computer screen and punch keys all day and bring home a big check, they don't want to do it.

When people don't want to live within their means, what the company can pay and stay in business, companies go elsewhere and find people that will. In a lot of ways, we the American people asked for it. We asked for these to come here and take jobs. Because many American's feels they are too good to do the job.



Easttowest72's photo
Tue 06/05/18 12:37 AM
Because Trump is a great businessman he only cares about his own agenda? He donates his salary back to the people. Did Obama do that?

What opportunities aren't equal in America? Life is what you make.

We had more than enough presidents who kissed up to other countries. That's why we have a trade deficit for Trump to fix.

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Tue 06/05/18 12:48 AM

Lets put some truth here about a little town in Ga called "Cedartown". and all the illegals that were there at the time. Yes, at one time the town was covered up. Full of them. But here is the truth of the matter. I know. Because I was there.

Simply put, all these illegals that were there, were there because 2 or 3 of the bigger companies that were there brought them in. These companies sent trucks to a certain part of Texas. Where they would load them up. As many as they could get in a 53 ft trailer without smothering them to death and bring them to Cedartown.

One company employed something over a thousand of them. This company got slapped on the hand several times during the Bush years. That's about all that ever happened. When Obama was in office he cracked down on the illegals. He was the first president besides Clinton to try. Except he did try harder.

All in all this one company brought into Cedartown something over 3 thousand illegals. Two other companies that I know about followed suit. Before you knew it, almost every job was covered in Cedartown by illegals.

But it wasn't because illegals came here on there own accord. They were brought here by these companies. Under Obama, these three companies wound up out of business. The largest of these three companies, the owner, wound up in prison.


Before any of the other 2 companies head honchos could get prosecuted, they left the country. Closed their doors And left Cedartown. After that, all the illegals left. Nobody had to make them. None were deported. They all went back home to Guatemala & Mexico.


One last thing, each of these companies played a part in helping these illegals defraud the government. They intentionally paid a low wage so they could falsify documents that helped these illegals that could hardly speak English get certain benefits from the government.


I can't blame anyone for wanting to feed their family. These people are used to living on nothing. You go to their country and promise that if they will come here and work for you they will get 5 to 7 bucks an hour, yes, they will come. 5 to 7 bucks an hour is better than 0 an hour. And yes, five families will live in a four-room house. At least they have a roof over there heads and food in their stomachs. When you are used to living on 0, everything is a step up.

Yes, a lot of them walk over here. But many are brought here by companies simply because they will work cheaper. Many Americans don't want to work with there hands anymore. They want to make big money and sit on their butts. These people are glad to come and take our jobs. Because we have become a lazy country full of lazy people that don't want to work. If they can't sit in front of a computer screen and punch keys all day and bring home a big check, they don't want to do it.

When people don't want to live within their means, what the company can pay and stay in business, companies go elsewhere and find people that will. In a lot of ways, we the American people asked for it. We asked for these to come here and take jobs. Because many American's feels they are too good to do the job.





The Mexicans I'm talking about were in cedartown way before Obama. I'm talking about 30 years ago. My son works in cedartown making a lot more than $5-$7 an hour. He worked 67 hours last week. Americans aren't as lazy as people want to claim and Mexicans aren't saving us from having to work.
I've watched those Mexicans kids grow up on welfare while the Mexican went out and had more kids for the welfare system to support.

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Tue 06/05/18 03:59 AM

Because Trump is a great businessman he only cares about his own agenda? He donates his salary back to the people. Did Obama do that?

What opportunities aren't equal in America? Life is what you make.

We had more than enough presidents who kissed up to other countries. That's why we have a trade deficit for Trump to fix.


No there are plenty of great businessmen who give a damn like Gates, Warren Buffet, George Soros et cetera, who have a history of actually using what they are blessed with to give BACK to those uplifting others not so blessed.

He only cares about his brand because he as much has admitted to when asked why only four years previous to running he had declared Hilary would make a great President, and when he threatened NFL Owners on the Anthem issue because he said it lifted "HIM"

He only cares about his brand because I know NO EVIDENCE that this person wealthy SINCE BIRTH has ever used his resources in any way to uplift anyone but TRUMP brand.

Donating his salary is not proof of wanting to uplift anyone else. It's a strategic move that further motivates his base to support him. In reality, that income is about 1/3000 th of his worth, so it would be more like O'Bamas saying they would give back a 3000 salary instead of accepting it, NOTHING like them foregoing the 400 grand which is like only 1/6th of theirs.


Plenty of opportunities aren't equal. Life is what you make it WITHIN the boundaries of culture, law, environment ,,,etc because no one lives in a cave alone or in a vacuum of their own making.

Presidents don't 'kiss up' to other countries. They do however have to maintain Global Relationships and allies through MUTUAL support and negotiation, not one-sided all about the US intimidation.


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Tue 06/05/18 06:17 AM
How does disrespecting the flag help minorities? If these players had wanted to do something, they would have went back to the bad areas and invested time and money to create a better life for their people.

Gangs is becoming a huge problem in Atl. The mayor's nephew was killed because he was mistaken for someone else. They started up a task force trying to deal with it. In the interview, the guy said most of the parents don't even know their kids have quit school. They don't care about their kids. It's the problem of the police to deal with. People fear for their lives. Kneeling for a flag doesn't stop cops from feeling a certain way about people, when they deal with crazy stuff everyday.

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Tue 06/05/18 06:23 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 06/05/18 06:24 AM

How does disrespecting the flag help minorities? If these players had wanted to do something, they would have went back to the bad areas and invested time and money to create a better life for their people.

Gangs is becoming a huge problem in Atl. The mayor's nephew was killed because he was mistaken for someone else. They started up a task force trying to deal with it. In the interview, the guy said most of the parents don't even know their kids have quit school. They don't care about their kids. It's the problem of the police to deal with. People fear for their lives. Kneeling for a flag doesn't stop cops from feeling a certain way about people, when they deal with crazy stuff everyday.


Okay. this is a different topic,, but how does standing for an Anthem help anyone either? both are called 'symbolic' and represent an aknowledgement of an ideal or a people.

These players did ALSO invest time and money, and they ALSO put their own livelihood on the line to bring broader attention to the problem

Gangs in Atlanta are not a POTUS issue, but a Mayor issue.

kneeling brought attention to the INDIVIDUALS who are killed without justice for the loss of their life only because their killer wore a badge.

Police should not be patroling to protect and serve a people they 'feel a certain way' about, and certainly not being paid and given training.


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Tue 06/05/18 07:34 AM
Military men are taught to fight together. People who don't understand respect for our flag should try service in the military.

Kneeling for the flag didn't stop a kid from joining a gang, or keep a drug dealer from going to jail. It only caused the NFL to lose $$. Money.

Now they will be fined. I don't think that will bring back fans. Too little, too late.

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Tue 06/05/18 08:06 AM


Buffet.Soros and Gates those who agree with a new world order and depopulation ..are you serious..we are definitely on two opposite ends Ms.H and nothing could've made it more apparent than agreeing with those three..Since they agree on the depopulation of the world ..how about we start with them and their families..I wonder how they would feel about it then..I wonder what they would have to say about that.. Always easy to talk when one is not affected..spock



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Tue 06/05/18 08:45 AM
I know police use to avoid gang infested areas. They would sit back and let them kill each other. But then the complains came that nobody cared if it's black people being killed or going missing. So they are forced to be there. People can't have it both ways. They want the police to protect them when a drug deal goes bad but they want them to look the other way while they sell drugs.

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Tue 06/05/18 08:56 AM

Military men are taught to fight together. People who don't understand respect for our flag should try service in the military.

Kneeling for the flag didn't stop a kid from joining a gang, or keep a drug dealer from going to jail. It only caused the NFL to lose $$. Money.

Now they will be fined. I don't think that will bring back fans. Too little, too late.



standing for a flag didn't stop soldiers from dying either, whats your point?

the symbolism of a flag means different things to different people, we should be much more concerned about our neighbors and country men than we are symbolism and "patriotic" displays

this may cost the NFL money the way that integration of sports did for a while, but so be it, if its moves us forward and opens people's eyes to the things they would rather ignore.

I think fans are gained and fans are lost over all types of reasons every day, but standing up for what one believes is right or kneeling for it is the most patriotic thing I think that people can do, moreso than worrying about money or popularity ever will be.



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Tue 06/05/18 08:58 AM



Buffet.Soros and Gates those who agree with a new world order and depopulation ..are you serious..we are definitely on two opposite ends Ms.H and nothing could've made it more apparent than agreeing with those three..Since they agree on the depopulation of the world ..how about we start with them and their families..I wonder how they would feel about it then..I wonder what they would have to say about that.. Always easy to talk when one is not affected..spock





im not talking about unproven conspiracies, Im talking about what is DOCUMENTED in DOLLARS and on RECORD that they have given to causes other than their own growing pockets.


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Tue 06/05/18 09:01 AM

I know police use to avoid gang infested areas. They would sit back and let them kill each other. But then the complains came that nobody cared if it's black people being killed or going missing. So they are forced to be there. People can't have it both ways. They want the police to protect them when a drug deal goes bad but they want them to look the other way while they sell drugs.


Or they want them to DO THE JOB THEY ARE TRAINED AND PAID TO DO

to keep the community safe by deescalating problems and removing actual threats to JAIL, not by becoming a judge and jury executioning squad


Easttowest72's photo
Tue 06/05/18 09:05 AM


Military men are taught to fight together. People who don't understand respect for our flag should try service in the military.

Kneeling for the flag didn't stop a kid from joining a gang, or keep a drug dealer from going to jail. It only caused the NFL to lose $$. Money.

Now they will be fined. I don't think that will bring back fans. Too little, too late.



standing for a flag didn't stop soldiers from dying either, whats your point?

the symbolism of a flag means different things to different people, we should be much more concerned about our neighbors and country men than we are symbolism and "patriotic" displays

this may cost the NFL money the way that integration of sports did for a while, but so be it, if its moves us forward and opens people's eyes to the things they would rather ignore.

I think fans are gained and fans are lost over all types of reasons every day, but standing up for what one believes is right or kneeling for it is the most patriotic thing I think that people can do, moreso than worrying about money or popularity ever will be.





I've done my share to help people who serve in the military. I use to drive 8 hours every weekend to pick up my son from fort benning. I picked him up at the airport and gave him a place to live when he came home from fort bliss. I baby sat my grandson while my daughter was in college and son in law was in Iraq. I gave them a house when he got out of the army. The least people can do is stand for the flag while others are giving up so much for their freedom. I didn't get to be there when my grandson were born at fort Lewis and fort Irwin.

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Tue 06/05/18 09:15 AM

John septic systems are set up based on the number of people that will be living in the home. For example, you don't expect 30 people to be living in a 2br home. You must not understand very much about homes. Like I said, people need to get a real world understanding of the situation.




Ohhh!!! Too many turds is what you're saying, why didn't you say so?


Septic systems, I see, but you were talking plumbing and since I come from a real estate background winking your statement didn't make any sense to me.

Carry on with your xenophobia laugh




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Tue 06/05/18 09:20 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 06/05/18 09:20 AM



Military men are taught to fight together. People who don't understand respect for our flag should try service in the military.

Kneeling for the flag didn't stop a kid from joining a gang, or keep a drug dealer from going to jail. It only caused the NFL to lose $$. Money.

Now they will be fined. I don't think that will bring back fans. Too little, too late.



standing for a flag didn't stop soldiers from dying either, whats your point?

the symbolism of a flag means different things to different people, we should be much more concerned about our neighbors and country men than we are symbolism and "patriotic" displays

this may cost the NFL money the way that integration of sports did for a while, but so be it, if its moves us forward and opens people's eyes to the things they would rather ignore.

I think fans are gained and fans are lost over all types of reasons every day, but standing up for what one believes is right or kneeling for it is the most patriotic thing I think that people can do, moreso than worrying about money or popularity ever will be.





I've done my share to help people who serve in the military. I use to drive 8 hours every weekend to pick up my son from fort benning. I picked him up at the airport and gave him a place to live when he came home from fort bliss. I baby sat my grandson while my daughter was in college and son in law was in Iraq. I gave them a house when he got out of the army. The least people can do is stand for the flag while others are giving up so much for their freedom. I didn't get to be there when my grandson were born at fort Lewis and fort Irwin.



And thats patriotic of you moreso than whether you are sitting or kneeling for a flag ever will be.


Vets matter, but they arent the only Americans who matter, are they? They are not risking their lives just for the sake of other vets, but for all Americans. so why dont those who lecture about understanding the flag give the same concern to AMERICANS as they do symbolism or vets?

what does standing for a flag do for those who are in need or helping exactly?

do you realize the whole display mandates Americans to mix sports and politics? what other form of entertainment does that? you realize they didnt even have such a display in sports until war time in order to drum the bells of war for support? But now all of a sudden, its the only acceptable form of showing patriotism?



do you know Kaepernick gave a million to kids suffering heart disease? those kids are americans. But that kind of patriotism towards fellow countrymen isnt gonna count unless he shows what someone else dictates is proper patriotism towards a flag or anthem? Symbolism overrules actual human life?



smh ...

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Tue 06/05/18 09:49 AM
What does the flag have to do with the police or feeling life isn't fair. People cry about what others have but do nothing to accomplish something of their own.

msharmony's photo
Tue 06/05/18 10:22 AM

What does the flag have to do with the police or feeling life isn't fair. People cry about what others have but do nothing to accomplish something of their own.



What does the flag have to do with sports? But there it is.

these are people who HAVE accomplished for themselves and STILL have the humanity to care about those less fortunate. Being killed by cop has little to do with whether one 'accomplishes' something of their own.



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Tue 06/05/18 10:55 AM


John septic systems are set up based on the number of people that will be living in the home. For example, you don't expect 30 people to be living in a 2br home. You must not understand very much about homes. Like I said, people need to get a real world understanding of the situation.




Ohhh!!! Too many turds is what you're saying, why didn't you say so?


Septic systems, I see, but you were talking plumbing and since I come from a real estate background winking your statement didn't make any sense to me.

Carry on with your xenophobia laugh






Real estate background but I need to explain why 30 people living in a 2br isn't a good idea. :thinking:

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Tue 06/05/18 10:56 AM


What does the flag have to do with the police or feeling life isn't fair. People cry about what others have but do nothing to accomplish something of their own.



What does the flag have to do with sports? But there it is.

these are people who HAVE accomplished for themselves and STILL have the humanity to care about those less fortunate. Being killed by cop has little to do with whether one 'accomplishes' something of their own.

Some will always cause trouble where ever they go. It's in their nature.




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Tue 06/05/18 11:00 AM



What does the flag have to do with the police or feeling life isn't fair. People cry about what others have but do nothing to accomplish something of their own.



What does the flag have to do with sports? But there it is.

these are people who HAVE accomplished for themselves and STILL have the humanity to care about those less fortunate. Being killed by cop has little to do with whether one 'accomplishes' something of their own.

Some will always cause trouble where ever they go. It's in their nature.






if life is what we make it, I guess 'trouble' is just as subjective.



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